# Fuck saving dumb ass ice fisherman **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 20, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saving-dumb-ass-ice-fisherman/829874 "2019-02-20T03:54:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saving-dumb-ass-ice-fisherman/829874/61 "2019-02-21T04:38:44Z")
> [@UCBearcats](#): > > Where is the best place to take a piss while drinking beer? > In a pool!! Awwhhh snap! That’s it, wrap this up. Put it in a box. We’re done. #drainingthepool ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saving-dumb-ass-ice-fisherman/829874/62 "2019-02-21T04:43:45Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Awwhhh snap! That’s it, wrap this up. Put it in a box. We’re done. #drainingthepool Yeah I’ll admit that was major pwnage. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saving-dumb-ass-ice-fisherman/829874/63 "2019-02-21T04:55:15Z")
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**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saving-dumb-ass-ice-fisherman/829874/64 "2019-02-21T05:01:35Z")
I hear the boys are thirsty in Atlanta, but there’s beer in Texarkana… ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saving-dumb-ass-ice-fisherman/829874/65 "2019-02-21T08:52:16Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I’m glad you’re not part of the emergency services in my area. 'round here, if you have an emergency, they’ll rescue you and ask questions later. > > I feel better knowing that if I do something that you decide is fucked up, illegal and/or deliberate, the EMTs will still help me. Not leave me to die. > > That’s a messed up attitude to have. > > Oh, and they’ll also pull you out of the water if you fall through the ice. I know you feel that dumb ass ice fisherman also don’t deserve to be saved. As an EMT, I’m supposed to risk my life to save the patient’s. Even if that patient is a useless cumstain like **UCBearcats**. ---
**Author:** ![pullin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c57346/32.png) [@pullin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pullin)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saving-dumb-ass-ice-fisherman/829874/66 "2019-02-21T10:24:03Z")
Serious question from a southerner. Is there a governing or monitoring body that issues safety warnings about ice? The national weather service monitors wind and waves and will issue small craft warnings to boaters, and Flight Service Stations issue hazard warnings to aircraft (AIRMETs, SIGMETs, etc.). It would make sense for boaters or pilots who ignore those warnings to be held liable for any rescue cost. But if there is no way other than guesswork for ice fishermen to assess the ice below them, it seems difficult to hold them responsible for the results. How do people who ice fish determine the strength of ice before driving on it? Living in the South, I wouldn’t know how, other than watching the other fishermen. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saving-dumb-ass-ice-fisherman/829874/67 "2019-02-21T13:02:39Z")
Here’s a perspective you may not have heard OP: I feel that people without an underlying compassion for all people have the same value as you seem to assign to this guy or others who fuck up due to stupidity. Would if be okay with you, then, if I see you dying and I refuse to help? That’s why I want him rescued. Because I could be the one doing something that someone else considers incredibly stupid, and I would want them to help me. Sure, risk assessment is a thing, but that’s up to the individual on how much risk they want to take. But I definitely want them to try and figure out a way to save me that is not too risky for them. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saving-dumb-ass-ice-fisherman/829874/68 "2019-02-21T13:36:32Z")
> [@pullin](#): > > Serious question from a southerner. Is there a governing or monitoring body that issues safety warnings about ice? The national weather service monitors wind and waves and will issue small craft warnings to boaters, and Flight Service Stations issue hazard warnings to aircraft (AIRMETs, SIGMETs, etc.). It would make sense for boaters or pilots who ignore those warnings to be held liable for any rescue cost. But if there is no way other than guesswork for ice fishermen to assess the ice below them, it seems difficult to hold them responsible for the results. > > How do people who ice fish determine the strength of ice before driving on it? Living in the South, I wouldn’t know how, other than watching the other fishermen. I don’t know if a government entity monitors it, but it _is_ monitored. People [generally] don’t go out on the ice until it’s deemed thick enough and they’ll stay off it if it gets to thin. There’s often some mention of the ice conditions on the news, especially if they’re telling people to stay off it on a particular day. It’s typically also newsworthy if there season is starting late or ending early due to ice conditions. Just looking right now, it’s about 1.5 to 2 feet deep and it only needs to be a few inches to walk on and a foot or so do drive on…and keep in mind that how thick it is here has nothing to do with how thick it is over there. Also as far as _how_ it monitored. They auger holes into it and measure how far down the ice goes. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saving-dumb-ass-ice-fisherman/829874/69 "2019-02-21T14:14:44Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > It’s not parked on the continental shelf or something. The gas, oil and transmission fluid systems should be well-enough sealed to keep stuff from leaking out for a few months at least. A diver and a tow truck now v. a diver and a barge with a crane later. Might as well get the job done now for less money. > [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](#): > > No, that recovery bill, and the total loss of the truck, will go to his insurance company. It will far exceed what he has paid in insurance premiums, so it will be spread out over all the other people who have car insurance and aren’t stupid enough to drive their vehicles on thin ice, increasing insurance premiums for the rest of us. That would depend on whether or not the policy included comprehensive coverage and whether or not it had an off-road exclusion. > [@pullin](#): > > Serious question from a southerner. Is there a governing or monitoring body that issues safety warnings about ice? The national weather service monitors wind and waves and will issue small craft warnings to boaters, and Flight Service Stations issue hazard warnings to aircraft (AIRMETs, SIGMETs, etc.). It would make sense for boaters or pilots who ignore those warnings to be held liable for any rescue cost. But if there is no way other than guesswork for ice fishermen to assess the ice below them, it seems difficult to hold them responsible for the results. > > How do people who ice fish determine the strength of ice before driving on it? Living in the South, I wouldn’t know how, other than watching the other fishermen. In Ontario, check with the Ministry of Transportation and the local police for for winter road conditions (a winter road is a road that includes going across frozen lakes), and for ice fishing, check with local ice fishing operators. As Joey P has pointed out, the thickness of the ice is tested by augering holes through it. Here in northwestern Ontario, we have many communities that are only accessible by plane or by [winter roads](http://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/sites/default/files/northern_ontario_winter_roads_map.pdf) that travel across frozen lakes. Even in the southern part of the region, it is normal for people to drive across ice for ice fishing and to move material to their camps that are not road accessible. > [@UCBearcats](#): > > And you love to come and spend time with me. So fuck you dipshit mother fucker. UCB, you of all people should be thankful that rescuers rescue all people, including exceptionally stupid people. BTW, in the matter at hand, it was a buddy who performed the rescue. Fishing the truck out was a recovery, not a rescue, and no lives were put at risk in that recovery. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saving-dumb-ass-ice-fisherman/829874/70 "2019-02-21T14:35:15Z")
> [@pullin](#): > > How do people who ice fish determine the strength of ice before driving on it? Living in the South, I wouldn’t know how, other than watching the other fishermen. Who are 50% idiots… Seriously though, up here in the tundra, it’s a common news story. TV newscasters will give warnings for weeks, then announce that the local DNR has decided it’s “Safe to walk or fish on the following lakes… Waubeesee, Waupeepee, Wabasoo, Waubasee, Waupaca, Waubesa, Wauwauweegee… and Irving.” And we have the DNR posting signs along the lakeshore if it warms up the the extant that it’s no longer safe on the ice. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saving-dumb-ass-ice-fisherman/829874/71 "2019-02-21T15:17:54Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Who are 50% idiots… …and 50% beer, which helps. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saving-dumb-ass-ice-fisherman/829874.md?page=3)