# Fuck Shodan for spying on sleeping kids in their bedrooms.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 1, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047 "2017-01-01T15:07:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047/21 "2017-01-01T18:57:37Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> …  
> Identifying vulnerabilities is all that is all Shodan is trying to do. Even if it didn’t exist at all, any semi-skilled hacker could do the same thing with tools that have existed for decades. They are just trying to make it easier for IT security professionals to identify and remedy their own vulnerabilities.

Then why is it _posting_ private and personal pictures on the internet? Why does it make those pictures available for the public to view?

Wonder why there’s a public “create a free account” on their website if it’s for “security professionals?”

ETA, I’m not saying that you’re doing anything immoral. You seem to have a degree of ethics way too many don’t.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047/22 "2017-01-01T19:06:59Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> He expressed sympathy when my dog died, so I respect him for that. He’s not a bad guy, and the “Regards” thing doesn’t even piss me off.

So he doesn’t actually _believe_ all that horrible shit he says? Great, now, if he’d just stop saying it.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047/23 "2017-01-01T19:27:08Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Or Donald Trump’s next tweet.

Compared to a Trump tweet, that would be actual literature.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047/24 "2017-01-01T19:48:05Z")

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> [@Dangerosa](#):
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> Doesn’t everyone sticker over their webcam?

Resistance is futile. You will be regarded.

Happy New Year,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047/25 "2017-01-01T19:51:45Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Then why is it _posting_ private and personal pictures on the internet? Why does it make those pictures available for the public to view?
> 
> Wonder why there’s a public “create a free account” on their website if it’s for “security professionals?”
> 
> ETA, I’m not saying that you’re doing anything immoral. You seem to have a degree of ethics way too many don’t.

Umm, I don’t think Shodan is actually posting them. I believe all they’re doing is indexing the cameras and allowing one to search them. The cameras themselves are who is making the images available over the internet. Shodan allows you to search for insecure anything, that the cameras are in the class of insecure devices attached to the internet is the owner’s or manufacturers fault.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047/26 "2017-01-01T22:19:31Z")

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Why would the world want to look at a sleeping cat … although I sure would hate it if someone hacked my rig and found out I listen to Dr Laura … not sure I could live that down …

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047/27 "2017-01-01T23:44:47Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Resistance is futile. You will be regarded.
> 
> Happy New Year,  
> Shodan

Excellent! 😃

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**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047/28 "2017-01-02T00:39:29Z")

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Man, perverts have it so easy these days with the Internet of Things. Back in the day, we had to trick marks into installing BO2K with fake greeting card emails.

or… uh… so I’ve been told.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2017, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047/29 "2017-01-02T03:14:11Z")

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> [@Dangerosa](#):
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> Doesn’t everyone sticker over their webcam?

I do. I think its the barcode from a Bartlett Pear.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2017, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047/30 "2017-01-02T03:17:33Z")

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Did I miss something? It seems that I have.

What did Shodan do?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047/31 "2017-01-02T03:24:29Z")

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You don’t want to know.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2017, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047/32 "2017-01-02T04:11:24Z")

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[quote=“GrumpyBunny, post:7, topic:776047”]

(It’s fifteen-bean soup today, FWIW.)

It’s chilly out, and I’m thinking about making a pot of split pea soup.

PERVERTED split pea soup, of course.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2017, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047/33 "2017-01-02T05:27:39Z")

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What’s hundreds of small, white, depraved deviates? Uncle Ben’s Perverted Rice.

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**Author:** ![quiltguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e47774/32.png) [@quiltguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quiltguy)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2017, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047/34 "2017-01-02T12:21:33Z")

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[quote=“Ukulele\_Ike, post:32, topic:776047”]

> [@GrumpyBunny](#):
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> (It’s fifteen-bean soup today, FWIW.)
> 
> It’s chilly out, and I’m thinking about making a pot of split pea soup.
> 
> PERVERTED split pea soup, of course.

Just the one? 😉

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2017, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047/35 "2017-01-02T13:44:56Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Did I miss something? It seems that I have.
> 
> What did Shodan do?

[Shodan the](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shodan_(website)) somewhat controverted [Web App](https://www.shodan.io/)

[Shodan the](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) variously [well-regarded Doper](http://www.nouilles.info/sdpix/7912.html)  
Easily confused, I know. Never seen both in the same room, just sayin’

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2017, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047/36 "2017-01-02T15:49:42Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> [Shodan the](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) variously [well-regarded Doper](http://www.nouilles.info/sdpix/7912.html)

That said, if you showed me a picture of someone with a moustache like that and told me they spied on sleeping kids in their bedrooms…

😃

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2017, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047/37 "2017-01-02T16:39:57Z")

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> [@Grim\_Render](#):
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> The poster Shodan and I do not agree on much, but this does seem a bit over the top.
> 
> Maybe the title should be edited?

Oh, I don’t know. If NAMBLA offered a search engine called “Ask Vinyl Turnip,” I’d expect a bit of fallout.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2017, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047/38 "2017-01-02T17:40:34Z")

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[QUOTE=zdnet]  
A swift, short search also shows…happy patrons at bars, unaware their faces are being broadcast to the Internet while they enjoy a cheeky pint.  
[/QUOTE]  
There are roughly a gazillion bars and nightspots offering anyone with an Internet connection live views from cams inside their establishments, no hacking required.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047/39 "2017-01-02T17:44:25Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Oh, I don’t know. If NAMBLA offered a search engine called “Ask Vinyl Turnip,” I’d expect a bit of fallout.

:furiously applies for web address:

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2017, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-shodan-for-spying-on-sleeping-kids-in-their-bedrooms/776047/40 "2017-01-02T18:10:08Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> And why would they? That would make it harder to show the world their ding-a-ling when the need arises.

Removing the sticker isn’t exactly a huge barrier to showing off your ding a ling - unless you are sitting around nekkid all the time, with a penis in a state of showing off, there are a few steps to getting ready - doesn’t seem like removing a piece of masking tape is the biggest barrier to entry.

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