# Fuck Soccer! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 13, 2000, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290 "2000-12-13T03:13:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2000, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290/81 "2000-12-17T21:03:57Z")
Mike Jeffrey, Fortuna Sittard? (oh, okay, he’s left now…I tried, at least) Besides, you’ve got a lot to answer for after the likes of Ray Atteveld, Orpheo Keizerweerd and Marco Boogers. ---
**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2000, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290/82 "2000-12-17T23:22:53Z")
This will look a mess as I can’t figure out how to do that tables thingy … apologies. Season Apps G 89-90 RBC 32 6 90-91 RBC 37 27 91-92 NAC Breda 35 20 92-93 NAC Breda 33 26 93-94 NAC Breda 31 25 94-95 NAC Breda 16 10 94-95 Celtic 13 4 95-96 Celtic 34 26 96-97 Celtic 21 14 96-97 Notts F 8 1 97-98 Notts F 42 29 98-99 Notts F 21 6 99-00 Vitesse A 22 18 Total 345 212 Summary: 11 seasons in senior football, 19 goals per season. Shove yer coughcoughcough’s up yer arse Matt 😉 Besides, how could you possibly have forgotten about Regi Blinker??? ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2000, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290/83 "2000-12-18T00:20:45Z")
Thank you ruadh. Remember matt, she’s a Yankee 😉 Regi Blinker. My goodness, was I glad the day we exported that idiot. But hey, he played for Feyenoord. Anyone expecting something good to come out of Rotterdam is obviously insane 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2000, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290/84 "2000-12-18T07:57:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire \* > \*\*But hey, he played for Feyenoord. Anyone expecting something good to come out of Rotterdam is obviously insane 😉 \*\* One Henrik Larsson, there’s only one Henrik Larsson … ---
**Author:** ![beergeek279](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@beergeek279](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beergeek279)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2000, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290/85 "2000-12-18T14:26:27Z")
Well, I’m glad to see that I haven’t been called a bone-headed neanderthal (like I generally tend to be in political discussions 😉 ). I think that rugby and soccer quite nicely complement each other (I know several people who play both and I’d surely like some of those soccer players on the wing for me 🙂 ) if they weren’t so mutually exclusive (I think it’s the whole class thing ☹ ). So thank you Kitty (forgive my earlier outburst…just get upset at soccer players sometimes since we have to compete with them for field space) and Jack for your open mind! I opened up a thread about rugby and the rules right here so that I don’t have to hijack this one anymore 🙂 So if you have any questions, I (and I’m sure the other rugby players as well) will answer them at: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=51552](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=51552) Thank you 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2000, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290/86 "2000-12-18T21:47:38Z")
Oops, good points **ruadh** – although let’s face it, if Willie Falconer and John Spencer can be star strikers in Scotland, anyone can! My main gripe about Mr Hooijdonk was his superb diplomatic skills – what was it, £50,000 a week “not enough for the homeless” or something? Anyway, I can’t talk, since my lot signed Ian Ormondroyd not once but twice. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2000, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290/87 "2000-12-19T00:07:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fairy Princess Kitty \* > \*\*Whyy the hell are highschool sports so damn vicious? And why are the refs so fucking blind? I’m scratched up, bruised up and fucking limping and the refs didn’t call jack shit! Since when is cleating someone in the thigh legal? FUCK! AYSO is better than this and it’s a purely volunteer league, their refs don’t get pasid like ours. Now I ask the lot of you, WHY?! > > Kitty \*\* To answer your question, I am assuming that the referees are boys or men. Males generally take a great deal more punishment without complaining, and prefer the oportunity to return the favour. Guys actually feel a sense of pride when they leave the locker room bruised and limping, As long as the ref is even handed, an easy ref is just fine. ---
**Author:** ![Fairy\_Princess\_Kitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/df705f/32.png) [@Fairy\_Princess\_Kitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fairy_Princess_Kitty)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2000, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290/88 "2000-12-19T00:38:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by grienspace \* > \*\*To answer your question, I am assuming that the referees are boys or men. Males generally take a great deal more punishment without complaining, and prefer the oportunity to return the favour. Guys actually feel a sense of pride when they leave the locker room bruised and limping, As long as the ref is even handed, an easy ref is just fine. \*\* Limping and bruised are one thing and concussions and crutches are another. Limping and bruised I just got mad about because my school has no flat land at all and limping with bruises is not comfortable at all, so I wasn’t in the greatest of moods. However the ref WASN’T even handed, far from it, they see our players get pushed, punched (yes Kimbie got punched too), and elbowed and kicked in the head, but say nothing. A pefectly inocent half slide tackle from a defensive player got her yellow carded. Fair? I think not, the girl didn’t even fall. Kitty ---
**Author:** ![PharmBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/74df32/32.png) [@PharmBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PharmBoy)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2000, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290/89 "2000-12-19T01:53:30Z")
Soccer is a communist game. Teach your kids baseball and football!! ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2000, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290/90 "2000-12-19T05:35:40Z")
Growing up on the Canadian border, we’d enjoy broadcasts of curling from the CBC. I apologize to my Canadian friends in advance, but if there’s a sport that you’re going to ridicule, it’s curling. Also beamed to Buffalo from across the border – pool where all the balls are the same color and there’s no pockets, cricket (as in darts – every game lasted exactly three or four rounds, all the shooters were that good), and bowling with two pound balls. To those in the UKoGBaNI – does the Beeb still air Shetland Sheepdog trials? Wonder what the announcers of dog herding competitions sound like? ---
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2000, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290/91 "2000-12-19T09:58:20Z")
No **elwood** - sadly One Man And His Dog has bitten the dust. Well - I say sadly but I never actually watched it. Neither did anyone I know. Maybe that’s _why_ they pulled it. Anyhow. pan ---
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2000, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290/92 "2000-12-19T09:59:53Z")
er… **elmwood** even. I know how annoying it is when people misspell your name. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![TomH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@TomH](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TomH)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2000, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290/93 "2000-12-19T15:21:13Z")
As a Sheffield Wednesday fan, I can never forget (or forgive) Regi Blinker, though he did spawn one fo the best songs at Hillsborough for a few years: _We’ve got Regi Blinker, He’s a bigger drinker, Than David Hirst, Than David Hirst._ And **ruadh** , I think the one of the few useful things the commentators can tell you which team is playing in which strip. When teams like Man U have 14 different away strips, change strips mid-match (players couldn’t pick out the red shirts against Peter Schmeichel’s nose) and generally wear their away strip even when it causes more of a clash with the home team’s strip than their home strip would, it sometimes helps to be told that (as the case may be) Villa are playing in red and Middlesborough in purple rather than _vice versa_. ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2000, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290/94 "2000-12-19T17:57:50Z")
Kabbes: Found in a Google search: “There will be another 70 minute special edition of One Man and His Dog which will be shown on BBC2 on Friday 29th December 2000 starting at 4.10pm and finishing at 5.20pm.” Sounds _extremely_ British, perhaps more so than Morningside Crescent. ---
**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2000, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290/95 "2000-12-19T19:11:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TomH \* > **As a Sheffield Wednesday fan, I can never forget (or forgive) Regi Blinker** You’re a Wednesday fan???!?? Huh. Well we Celtic fans will never forgive _you_ for palming Blinker off on us!! 😉 Mind you, I think with Simon Donnelly we managed to return the favor somewhat. > [@](#): > > I think the one of the few useful things the commentators can tell you which team is playing in which strip. It was going on to tell us the color of their shorts and socks that I thought was OTT. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2000, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290/96 "2000-12-19T20:52:03Z")
I don’t want to hijack this thread, but it seems like a good place to vent a bit. I’ve heard much to-do about soccer vs. rugby vs. American football. I’ve played all three. Any person that says (based on a sense of superiority about their own sport) that **any of the above mentioned sports** are boring, pointless, or “sissy sports” is really uninformed. Every one of them are challenging, exciting, incredibly fun sports to play. If you don’t like soccer, turn off the TV, get off your couch, and go play it. It’s a huge adrenaline rush, and it’s one of the best workouts you can possibly get. (Also, play Ultimate Frisbee sometime. It has all the running of soccer, the goal of American football, and the athleticism of basketball. Amazingly fun sport.) If you don’t like rugby, turn off the TV, get off your couch, and go play it. It’s brutal, messy, and teeth-rattling, but there’s no better sport for overall toughness and stamina. If you don’t like American football, turn off the TV, get off your couch, and go play it (I know this is tough for some of our EuroDopers, but it can be done, with a little ingenuity and some willing friends.) It’s rough and tumble, does NOT have to be played with pads, and it’s one long exercise in strategic as well as tactical thinking. It is an extremely worthy sport. Being American (and a Suthunuh, where college football might as well be a religion,) my favorite will always be American football. Played full-on, without pads (my preferred style,) it’s as brutal, and as fun, as any rugby game. My point? Participation is the ultimate way of learning about a sport. Play it a few times, and your boredom magically vanishes when you watch it later. You begin to appreciate the nuances, the athleticism, and the techniques. For instance, I used to think tennis was the most boring goddamn thing I’d ever seen. But after playing it more or less constantly over the course of a summer (and getting my ass kicked on a regular basis,) even watching it on TV is exciting, because I am now able to judge the subtle tactics, the swings, and the delicate body balance that makes a truly great tennis player. As for the OP, which I’ve personally hijacked twice now (I’m sorry!,) people lose sight of the fact that these are supposed to _sports_, fer chrissakes, not all-out war. It’s a sorry sack of shit that will resort to unsportsmanlike conduct to gain the upper hand. ---
**Author:** ![TomH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@TomH](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TomH)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2000, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290/97 "2000-12-20T16:11:26Z")
I don’t think many Wednesday fans would complain about Donnelly: nobody’s ever seen him play. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290/98 "2000-12-21T11:50:31Z")
**elmwood** - I guess that it isn’t totally dead after all then. And yes - there is something peculiarly British about devoting 50 minutes of prime TV time on one of the only four channels that everybody can get to a rather tedious program featuring incomprehensible gammy old men with big sticks whistling at their shaggy dogs and eyeing sheep lustily. Hmm. I _was_ going to lambast the BBC for putting such tripe on, but actually I realised that I rather like these little peculiarities we exhibit after all. Go figure. pan ---
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290/99 "2000-12-21T11:52:22Z")
Of course I meant **70** minutes. I can read. Honestly. Now what was that relationship I’m supposed to have with Preview again? ---
**Author:** ![TomH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@TomH](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TomH)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290/100 "2000-12-21T13:28:45Z")
> [@](#): > > Sounds extremely British, perhaps more so than Morningside Crescent. Mornington Crescent? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-soccer/45290.md?page=6)