# Fuck "Starving Artist"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 24, 2008, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596 "2008-12-24T21:58:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/41 "2008-12-25T03:39:24Z")

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Ha, I was thinking [**Pleasantville**](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0120789/) too, though more along the lines of J.T. Walsh. Tobey Maguire was the one who was trying to enlighten people to the joys of a world in color. Walsh wanted to stay in black and white. **Starving Artist** wants to go back and stay in the black and white world.

I love that movie. When an orgasm makes a tree catch on fire…wow!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/42 "2008-12-25T03:40:17Z")

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May I take it that your use of the word “spots” as a pejorative is not meant to imply disrespect for the freckled community?

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/43 "2008-12-25T03:44:51Z")

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I have no idea, but he still blames the Beatles for the decline of Western Civilization.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/44 "2008-12-25T03:45:47Z")

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Freckled people shouldn’t marry or have any civil rights, you know. They’re too flamboyant and should not be out in public where the rest of us have to look at them.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/45 "2008-12-25T03:49:04Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> Ha, I was thinking [**Pleasantville**](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0120789/) too, though more along the lines of J.T. Walsh. Tobey Maguire was the one who was trying to enlighten people to the joys of a world in color. Walsh wanted to stay in black and white. **Starving Artist** wants to go back and stay in the black and white world.
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> I love that movie. When an orgasm makes a tree catch on fire…wow!

But remember how Tobey’s character was totally in love with the show and pissed as hell at Reese’s character because she was sowing color willy nilly and it really upset him–he only came around to seeing how evil it is to keep 3D people trapped in a 2D world from watching the agony Joan Allen’s character went through, and the conflict of trying to comfort Jeff Daniels–if it hadn’t been for Reese there wouldn’t have been a speck of color in Pleasantville, ever. Tobey LIKED it that way, precisely since he perceived it as a retreat from a world he found too complicated and frightening. He learned to embrace chaos and uncertaintly for the innovation, wonder and beauty it brings… **SA** is unwilling or unable to make that leap, to embrace diversity for the delight it is in spite of the increased risk of conflict. Guess that’s why there’s vanilla AND chocolate, huh? 😛

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/46 "2008-12-25T03:50:37Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> May I take it that your use of the word “spots” as a pejorative is not meant to imply disrespect for the freckled community?

Spots is zits!

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/47 "2008-12-25T03:55:34Z")

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> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> But remember how Tobey’s character was totally in love with the show and pissed as hell at Reese’s character because she was sowing color willy nilly and it really upset him–he only came around to seeing how evil it is to keep 3D people trapped in a 2D world from watching the agony Joan Allen’s character went through, and the conflict of trying to comfort Jeff Daniels–if it hadn’t been for Reese there wouldn’t have been a speck of color in Pleasantville, ever. Tobey LIKED it that way, precisely since he perceived it as a retreat from a world he found too complicated and frightening. He learned to embrace chaos and uncertaintly for the innovation, wonder and beauty it brings… **SA** is unwilling or unable to make that leap, to embrace diversity for the delight it is in spite of the increased risk of conflict. Guess that’s why there’s vanilla AND chocolate, huh? 😛

You’re right. Good summary. It’s been many years since I’ve seen it and I forgot about the beginning. Now I want to watch it again.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/48 "2008-12-25T03:57:36Z")

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> [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](#):
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> Your posts are testaments to a curious mixture of pre-pubescent incomprehension and inflated entitlement combined with elderly, infirm xenophobia and inflated entitlement with none of the intellectual curiosity that “artist” implies or the empathy for the less-endowed that “starving” implies

What does this even mean?! I can’t even get a sense of what you’re criticizing him about. I’m guessing at the criticism part since there are a lot of pejorative terms.

At least when **Starving Artist** posts, I understand the point he’s trying to make. Whether one agrees with him or not probably has more to do with one’s politics.

But with your post, I don’t even understand what you’re trying to convey.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/49 "2008-12-25T04:16:57Z")

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> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> Spots is zits!

Ah. Carry on, then.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/50 "2008-12-25T04:17:25Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> You’re right. Good summary. It’s been many years since I’ve seen it and I forgot about the beginning. Now I want to watch it again.

Me too!

_goes off to peruse the movie library_

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/51 "2008-12-25T04:24:24Z")

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Something I just remembered. When it came out there were a lot of right-wingers who are hissing at the movie, really lambasting it. At the time I couldn’t figure out why, but now I know!

They were all **Starving Artist** and his cohorts! (come on SA, admit it, you hung around rec.arts.movies, yeah?)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/52 "2008-12-25T04:53:28Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> Freckled people shouldn’t marry or have any civil rights, you know. They’re too flamboyant and should not be out in public where the rest of us have to look at them.

Well, don’t judge us too quickly, there’s a lot more than just Doris Day and Ron Howard, you know. (And Howard isn’t even actually freckled, that’s just added in post-production, when needed to conform to the stereotype of the naive and innocent 'tard).

I’m pretty sure there are no formal legal restrictions on marrying the freckled. If anyone ever wanted to, that is.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/53 "2008-12-25T06:19:36Z")

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And he’s _fat!_ He’s a _fat_ starving artist.

That’s very rare.

Anyway, I’ve long had the impression that many usernames sprang from private jokes or lines the user liked from some obscure book or movie or whatever and bear absolutely no relation to their day-to-day postings. If the guy’s a jerk, he’d be a jerk regardless of his username.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/54 "2008-12-25T07:56:18Z")

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> [@Vox\_Imperatoris](#):
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> **Starving Artist** has argued his positions with nothing but calm, collected rationality, as far as I have seen from any of his posts.

I want to thank you for one of the funniest things I’ve ever read on this board.

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**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/55 "2008-12-25T11:12:23Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Anyway, I’ve long had the impression that many usernames sprang from private jokes or lines the user liked from some obscure book or movie or whatever and bear absolutely no relation to their day-to-day postings. If the guy’s a jerk, he’d be a jerk regardless of his username.

I wish more people would remember that before lashing out at usernames. I’m getting tired of the implication that I actually think I’m a member of the Illuminati or that I even think they’re real. I only picked this name because I was reading the _Illuminatus!_ trilogy at the time, I swear!

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**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/56 "2008-12-25T16:23:33Z")

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Look, we know cops can lie about being cops. Don’t assume we’re all still that gullible, Mr. Weishaupt.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/57 "2008-12-25T17:05:03Z")

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> [@Illuminatiprimus](#):
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> I only picked this name because I was reading the _Illuminatus!_ trilogy at the time, I swear!

Yeah, right…

[sub]jerk[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/58 "2008-12-25T17:47:45Z")

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So what is the Ricky Nelson song that everyone is bemoaning in the other thread? Is it “Travelin’ Man”? Because that’s the only song I really know of his.

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**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/59 "2008-12-25T17:52:40Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Yeah, right…
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> [sub]jerk[/sub]

:eek:

You say that to me on CHRISTMAS DAY **Bryan Ekers**???

_Runs away and cries_

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/60 "2008-12-25T18:37:50Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> So what is the Ricky Nelson song that everyone is bemoaning in the other thread? Is it “Travelin’ Man”? Because that’s the only song I really know of his.

Yes.

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