# Fuck "Starving Artist"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 24, 2008, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596 "2008-12-24T21:58:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/81 "2008-12-26T08:16:53Z")

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Gee, **Starving** , you really think my long hair in the Sixties was part of the end of civilization?

Oh! You mean _guys_ with long hair. Now that makes more sense!

I must admit that my generation invented vulgarity. My mother slapped the hell out of me for saying “good grief” in the mid-Fifties. She sure had her priorities straight. Words were dirtier than child abuse.

BTW, **Starving Artist** is indeed an artist.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/82 "2008-12-26T13:29:04Z")

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I saw [this story](http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gRkmZWkwW2CJoG-30X8eB_8b9oNgD959S8P00) today about the dog shoplifting (in Utah, no less) and thought, **SA** is right! Look what permissiveness has brought us to!

Then Mrs. J. told a story about a dog her familly had in the '50s that was caught pilfering from a box of dog candy in a variety store.

The dog was probably an Adlai Stevenson supporter.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/83 "2008-12-26T15:01:41Z")

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Actually, as a non-repentant hippy type weirdo, I find **SA** ’s accusations refreshing and flattering. We destroyed the 50’s culture of America? Cool! Needed it. Big time, downtown.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/84 "2008-12-26T15:21:17Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> Freckled people shouldn’t marry or have any civil rights, you know. They’re too flamboyant and should not be out in public where the rest of us have to look at them.

When the revolution comes, Ron Howard will be the first against the wall!

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/85 "2008-12-26T15:33:46Z")

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> [@Queen\_Bruin](#):
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> People who look to the past as some sort of Golden Age are misguided at best.
> 
> Just thought I’d throw my opinion out there, in the spirit of liberal permissiveness.

It’s like every dipshit out there who wishes the world could go back to being some sort of Monarchial Feudal Nirvana…which it might be, as long as you weren’t part of the 99.99% on the bottom of that pyramid.

Maybe we’ll be lucky and at me point **SA** will have an accident with a melanin injection, a gender swap, and a time machine.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/86 "2008-12-26T15:37:33Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> It’s like every dipshit out there who wishes the world could go back to being some sort of Monarchial Feudal Nirvana…which it might be, as long as you weren’t part of the 99.99% on the bottom of that pyramid.

And there’s the problem…somehow NOBODY who has these fantasies ever realizes that the great probability is that they’d be a serf just like most of the rest of us.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/87 "2008-12-26T15:43:32Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> And there’s the problem…somehow NOBODY who has these fantasies ever realizes that the great probability is that they’d be a serf just like most of the rest of us.

Well, that might be a problem for YOU, but I’m obviously kingly material. It’s basic physik, man, the cream always rises to the top.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/88 "2008-12-26T15:47:31Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Well, that might be a problem for YOU, but I’m obviously kingly material. It’s basic physik, man, the cream always rises to the top.
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> -Joe

Other stuff floats, too… 😃

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/89 "2008-12-26T20:54:36Z")

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> [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](#):
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> edit: in fact I’m temped to call him a fascist.

Let’s not weaken that word with overuse. Actual [fascists](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism) are rarer than Communists. Not even Franco nor Pinochet were fascists.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/90 "2008-12-26T20:58:19Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> Something I just remembered. When it came out there were a lot of right-wingers who are hissing at the movie, really lambasting it. At the time I couldn’t figure out why, but now I know!
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> They were all **Starving Artist** and his cohorts! (come on SA, admit it, you hung around rec.arts.movies, yeah?)

Probably the same ones who just luuurved _Forrest Gump._

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/91 "2008-12-26T21:02:31Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Yeah, right…
> 
> [sub]jerk[/sub]

I think you meant to say . . .

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Yeah, right…
> 
> [sub]fnord[/sub]

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/92 "2008-12-26T21:08:28Z")

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> Are you saying that the hippie culture just happened to be simultaneously happening with the civil rights movement? What were the effects of the hippie movement? Is it your contention that if that cultural event (the hippies) never happened that the same advances in policy would have taken place?
> 
> Please expand on this.

I’d also like to hear some more about them “education revisionists.” If **SA** means the likes of [James Leowen,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies_My_Teacher_Told_Me) the more we have of them the better.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/93 "2008-12-26T21:13:55Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> BTW, **Starving Artist** is indeed an artist.

_Plan 9 From Outer Space_ is indeed a motion picture.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/94 "2008-12-26T21:20:03Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> _Plan 9 From Outer Space_ is indeed a motion picture.

_Manos_ may make for a better analogy…

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/95 "2008-12-26T21:43:02Z")

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**Hambrientos! The Starving of Art.**

\*You liBErals caNnOT stay.

ThE mASteR woULd noT apPrOVe.

You caNnOT stay.

ThE mASteR woULd noT apPrOVe. \*

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/96 "2008-12-26T22:07:46Z")

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Is that one of those modernistical things I’d have to ask my son to explain to me? 'Cause I won’t do it!

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/97 "2008-12-26T22:11:33Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Is that one of those modernistical things I’d have to ask my son to explain to me? 'Cause I won’t do it!

I cannot in good conscience suggest that you actually [watch the thing in question](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Manos%22_The_Hands_of_Fate), at least not in its unadulterated form. There IS a sanity-saving version, however, courtesy of [the Best Brains](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0757564/).

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/98 "2008-12-26T22:21:32Z")

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> [@TVeblen](#):
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> He really, really liked the world 50 years ago, the heyday of Republican white men, Joe McCarthy and segregation. As a Republican white man, the world is no longer to his liking so someone must be at fault.

To be fair, for a Republican white man the world probably _was_ better 50 years ago, so his stance is perfectly rational. He’s blaming liberalism for changing that _status quo_, which is exactly what it did. Most conservatives have managed to adjust, some haven’t and probably never will.

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**Author:** ![Amber\_in\_Treasury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Amber\_in\_Treasury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amber_in_Treasury)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/99 "2008-12-26T22:50:05Z")

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> [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](#):
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> Fuck “Starving Artist”

No, I’d rather not.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-starving-artist/478596/100 "2008-12-26T23:30:15Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Be grateful that you’re not familiar with ‘Garden Party’.
> 
> I actually went to a Rick Nelson concert in the early '80s (I had free tickets). There were middle-aged women in the front rows shrieking and appearing to throw, um, undergarments at him.
> 
> I’m sure Dad and Mom would have been appalled.

I’m still waiting for Matthew and Gunnar to come out of the closet. (Although I confess to still liking “Nelson”, if only because of preteen memories) _ducks_

Perhaps, though, **Starving Artist** should listen to Billy Joel’s “We Didn’t Start the Fire” if he wants to explore nostalgia a wee better?

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