# Fuck the Alabama Supreme Court

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [March 4, 2015, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182 "2015-03-04T06:29:07Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2015, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182/1 "2015-03-04T06:29:07Z")

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[Buncha jerks.

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> The Alabama Supreme Court on Tuesday ordered the state’s probate judges to stop issuing marriage licenses to gay couples, saying a previous federal ruling that gay-marriage bans violate the U.S. Constitution does not preclude them from following state law, which defines marriage as between a man and a woman.

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> An attorney representing couples who filed suit to allow gay marriages in the state said the Alabama Supreme Court showed “callous disregard” and overstepped its bounds by declaring the state’s ban on same-sex marriages constitutional, something she said the justices hadn’t been asked to consider.

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> It was not immediately clear what impact the latest ruling would have or whether it would stand. While a six-member majority of the nine-member court did not explicitly invalidate the marriages of hundreds of same-sex couples who obtained licenses in the state in recent weeks, the decision used the term “purported” to describe those licenses.

]([http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US\_GAY\_MARRIAGE\_ALABAMA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-03-03-23-47-35](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GAY_MARRIAGE_ALABAMA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-03-03-23-47-35))

The best quote in the whole story is this:[

> [@Shannon Minter](#):
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> It is deeply unfortunate that even as nationwide marriage equality is on the horizon, the Alabama Supreme Court is determined to be on the wrong side of history.

]([http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US\_GAY\_MARRIAGE\_ALABAMA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-03-03-23-47-35](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GAY_MARRIAGE_ALABAMA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-03-03-23-47-35))As I thought about it, I had to wonder: when _isn’t_ Alabama on the wrong side of history? :dubious:

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### Author: ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2015, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182/2 "2015-03-04T07:38:31Z")

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Jesus Christ. Obama really is going to have to send in the 101st Airborne, isn’t he?

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### Author: ![Wash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9dc877/32.png) [@Wash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wash)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2015, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182/3 "2015-03-04T12:14:11Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> As I thought about it, I had to wonder: when _isn’t_ Alabama on the wrong side of history? :dubious:

Should probably just go ahead and make it the official state motto at this point.

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### Author: ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2015, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182/4 "2015-03-04T12:33:05Z")

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It’s too bad “the rest of the union” couldn’t put a Cuba style embargo on Alabama. Imagine Alalbama then: cut off, stuck in the past, everyone driving around in really old cars, everything in black and white…  
On second thought, they’d really like that.

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### Author: ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2015, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182/5 "2015-03-04T12:38:35Z")

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So what happens if the Alabama Supreme Court refuses to obey the inevitable ruling of the US Supreme Court?

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### Author: ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2015, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182/6 "2015-03-04T12:42:46Z")

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**ALABAMA**

_On The Wrong Side Of History_

I’m betting they could come up with a pretty interesting license plate.

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### Author: ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2015, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182/7 "2015-03-04T13:10:15Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> So what happens if the Alabama Supreme Court refuses to obey the inevitable ruling of the US Supreme Court?

We’ll have a near-repeat of the National Guard incidents of the past, except this time Alabama will blink before the disastrous photographs can be taken. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth and that’s it.

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### Author: ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2015, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182/8 "2015-03-04T13:54:13Z")

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I can almost see the ads in the next Governor’s election…

_“As a Justice on the Alabama Sate Supreme Court I stood up for the values Alabama holds dear. I didn’t back down to the thugs in the federal government and as your next Governor I’ll continue that fight!”_

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### Author: ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182/9 "2015-03-04T15:08:23Z")

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“Procreation nah, procreation tomorrah, procreation fo-evah!”

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### Author: ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2015, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182/10 "2015-03-04T15:42:35Z")

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[Their opinion](https://acis.alabama.gov/displaydocs.cfm?no=642402&event=4AN12324A). Or, more accurately, their hissy fit. 148 pages long, so I haven’t had a chance to go through it, and I may not because just reading the first part was difficult and time consuming.

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### Author: ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2015, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182/11 "2015-03-04T15:52:33Z")

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> [@Wash](#):
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> Should probably just go ahead and make it the official state motto at this point.

I always assumed Alabama’s state motto was “At least we’re not Mississippi!” but I may have to do some research.

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### Author: ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2015, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182/12 "2015-03-04T16:07:11Z")

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From my quick perusal, the Court seems to be saying that the federal court ruling requiring the issuance of marriage licenses to same sex couples is limited to only the part of Alabama that is covered by the federal court, and that for the rest of Alabama, the ban on same sex marriage still stands. They play fast and loose with the jurisdictional issues (one judge even dissented on that ground), but they don’t seem to be saying that the federal court’s ruling has no power over them, only that it has no power over the rest of Alabama, which is technically true.

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### Author: ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182/13 "2015-03-04T16:28:02Z")

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[An article](http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/03/04/alabama_supreme_court_defies_federal_judge_on_gay_marriage.html) on how wrong Alabama is, their weird reasoning, and internal contradictions. I can only hope that enough probate judges ignore them like they’ve ignored the SCOTUS. And somebody throw Moore in jail please

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### Author: ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182/14 "2015-03-04T17:49:13Z")

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> Fuck the Alabama Supreme Court

I look at how obsessed they are with the concept of gay sex, and ask, “Why reward them?”

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### Author: ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182/15 "2015-03-04T19:10:56Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> From my quick perusal, the Court seems to be saying that the federal court ruling requiring the issuance of marriage licenses to same sex couples is limited to only the part of Alabama that is covered by the federal court, and that for the rest of Alabama, the ban on same sex marriage still stands. They play fast and loose with the jurisdictional issues (one judge even dissented on that ground), but they don’t seem to be saying that the federal court’s ruling has no power over them, only that it has no power over the rest of Alabama, which is technically true.

Actually, if I read it correctly, the Supreme Court actually does say:

“Further, and pursuant to relator Judge Enslen’s request that this Court, “by any and all lawful means available to it,” ensure compliance with Alabama law with respect to the issuance of marriage licenses, each of the probate judges in this State other than the named respondents and Judge Davis are joined as respondents in the place of the “Judge Does” identified in the petition.”

Perhaps the Alabama Supreme Court does think that all judges in the State, including those subject to the federal order, are banned from doing same sex marriages.

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### Author: ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2015, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182/16 "2015-03-04T20:30:32Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> **ALABAMA**
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> _On The Wrong Side Of History_  
> I’m betting they could come up with a pretty interesting license plate.

Something like this:  
**ALABAMA**

_On The Wrong Side Of History Since  
EVER_

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### Author: ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2015, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182/17 "2015-03-04T20:37:55Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> As I thought about it, I had to wonder: when _isn’t_ Alabama on the wrong side of history? :dubious:

College football?

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### Author: ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2015, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182/18 "2015-03-04T21:04:50Z")

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[The 1970 USC game.](http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704107104574572340901355488) Jerry Claiborne, a former Bryant assistant, said, “Sam Cunningham did more to integrate Alabama in 60 minutes than Martin Luther King did in 20 years.”

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### Author: ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2015, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182/19 "2015-03-05T04:42:54Z")

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I though I heard they were suspending ALL marriages in the county. What a bunch of cretins.

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### Author: ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2015, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-alabama-supreme-court/714182/20 "2015-03-05T06:48:08Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> I though I heard they were suspending ALL marriages in the county. What a bunch of cretins.

No, that would **prevent** a lot of cretins. Even if it does piss off a lot of pairs of cousins.

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