# Fuck the Baby Boomers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 16, 2011, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212 "2011-07-16T03:00:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![flag\_not\_set](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@flag\_not\_set](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flag_not_set)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/321 "2011-07-21T02:25:44Z")

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But new here today. Wow, just wow.

> [@elucidator](#):
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> Just as dead. No such thing as Dead Lite.

Well, euphemistically speaking there is “brain dead.”

> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> Santayana also played at Woodstock, if I recall correctly.

You aren’t serious? Is it woosh? was that the term…

So the OP feels sorry for him/herself and blames the old people?

Is that the gist of it?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/322 "2011-07-21T02:45:33Z")

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Not _old_ people. People in their later youth.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/323 "2011-07-21T03:30:43Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Anyone who was at Woodstock is psychologically unable to remember correctly.

I think you mean pharmacologically unable, don’t you?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/324 "2011-07-21T14:49:34Z")

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> [@Spoke](#):
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> And _all_ of the Boomers were at Woodstock, ergo…

Any of us not there in body was there in spirit. It’s an astral projection thing. Just one of the many unique talents our generation possesses.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/325 "2011-07-21T15:02:18Z")

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Not true. My mom was three quarters of the way there, got annoyed with traffic, turned around, went home.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/326 "2011-07-21T16:20:06Z")

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I clicked on this thread a few days ago intending to admit that my Generation is worthy of blame. Some bad political decisions have been made on our watch; we’ve allowed environmental destruction to proceed; and our greed is in part responsible for today’s economic problems.

Yet when I read the strange and bitter posts in this thread, I wonder if you younger people need to look at your own Generation(s) more, rather than finding others to blame.

> [@jlzania](#):
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> There was very little popular support for the anti-war protests for a long time and I lived in the Bay area at the time which was pretty liberal in comparison to other parts of this country. We were preceived as dangerous traitors, as scum who were aiding and abetting the enemy.

I was teargassed on Bancroft Way, and once marched all the way from there to downtown Oakland. Where were you, **jlzania**? Maybe we marched together.

But I was a confused shy young man (didn’t even get any of the sex which was an alleged fringe benefit of protest 🆒 ). Real credit goes to the "Boomers’ in SNCC or CORE who [sacrificed their lives for change](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Summer). While it would be absurd for me (or my generation) to take credit for their sacrifices, still I wonder what similar heroes younger generations have to point to?

> [@jlzania](#):
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> I’m a little baffled by the broad generalizations being tossed around in this thread…  
> You know what I’m hearing?  
> A lot of petulance, a lot of whining.  
> Come on. You’re all grownups in your 30’s and 40’s, correct?  
> So what have you done beside bitch?  
> Who have you worked to elect, what laws have you fought to change in your communities? What have you put on the line recently?  
> The wars are bleeding this country dry-still. What are you doing to end them?  
> Services are being slashed for the poor, for the elderly, for the disabled and for the young all across America.  
> How are you helping?

Bravo, **jlzania**. I would be happy to say “Mea culpa” if you Gen-X and Gen-Y people would get half as active politically as the Boomers were. Instead this thread has confirmed my worst fears of Gen-X and Gen-Y confusion and apathy.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/327 "2011-07-21T16:33:11Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Real credit goes to the "Boomers’ in SNCC or CORE who [sacrificed their lives for change](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Summer). While it would be absurd for me (or my generation) to take credit for their sacrifices, still I wonder what similar heroes younger generations have to point to?

Just as a note, while some of the people who died during Freedom Summer were Boomers (like Henry Dee), the three most famous people murdered; Chaney, Schwerner, and Goodman, were born in 1943, 1943, and 1939 respectively.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/328 "2011-07-21T17:37:57Z")

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> [@jlzania](#):
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> Correction.  
> The maximum prison sentence for burning your draft card was 5 years and 100,000 dollar fine should have read **10,000**.  
> What can I say, I’ve was an English major.

You are right about the danger of the marches. Some corporations paid for nasty goons to harass and attack the marchers. Many, women included, were jumped on the way home when the protest ended. We set up a group of guys to escort people to their cars.  
A Chevy dealership in Detroit paid for one of the most aggressive anti protest groups. Their intent was to scare the peaceful protesters out of marching.  
The police were no picnic either. they were always fired up for a chance to beat up and arrest a “hippie”. It was easy. Just claim someone threw a bottle at them. It worked every time. It was BS.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/329 "2011-07-21T19:14:08Z")

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Well isn’t this thread just turning into a regular coffee klatsch of self-congratulation and condescension?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/330 "2011-07-21T19:18:09Z")

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By which you mean pointing out that you are full of shit? In that case, yes.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/331 "2011-07-21T19:28:03Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> By which you mean pointing out that you are full of shit? In that case, yes.

Peace and Love, man. Peace and Love.

_Come on people,  
Smile on your brother  
Everybody get together  
Try to love one another  
Right now  
.  
Right now  
.  
RIGHT NOW!!! DAMMIT!!!_

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/332 "2011-07-21T19:42:08Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> Just as a note, while some of the people who died during Freedom Summer were Boomers (like Henry Dee), the three most famous people murdered; Chaney, Schwerner, and Goodman, were born in 1943, 1943, and 1939 respectively.

I hope that by now we’ve agreed that some of these arbitrary date bounds are … arbitrary.

FWIW, my birthyear is closer to any of those three than it is to Obama’s. If I’m showing signs of senility by conflating “my generation” with The Boomer Generation™, sorry.

… And Freedom Summer was hardly the end of the Civil Rights Movement. As the years passed, the “young” had later and later birth years. 😉

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/333 "2011-07-21T19:48:38Z")

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Of course any cut-off dates are going to be arbitrary. But as someone born right smack dab in the middle of the boom, I got no place to hide! I’m a boomer no matter how you slice or dice it, notwithstanding the idea that my birth year forward constitute the late boomers and those before constitute the early boomers.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/334 "2011-07-21T19:58:45Z")

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Bunch fuckin’ spoiled-brat boomers… it’s like sixty is the new six!

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/335 "2011-07-21T20:03:23Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> By which you mean pointing out that you are full of shit?

Well yeah, but that’s generally the case, so I cop to it. 😃

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/336 "2011-07-21T20:05:20Z")

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There were big Iraq anti-war protests that barely got mentioned by the corporate, trophy blonde media. There were 18-30 year old white males who were the only group of white males that Barack Obama got a majority of votes from. There’s Bradley Manning, whose conscience compelled him to release information regarding our crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan, information that helped sparked revolutions in the Middle East, who sits languishing in a military prison while everyone denounces him for being a tattle-tale. There’s Pat Tillman, who believed in his country and gave up a lucrative career to die for a lie.

So I don’t want to hear any BS about the shiftless youth of today, especially from a generation committing the same crimes against us that had been perpetrated on them.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/337 "2011-07-21T20:16:30Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> So I don’t want to hear any BS about the shiftless youth of today, especially from a generation committing the same crimes against us that had been perpetrated on them.

They are starting to sound like their parents, aren’t they? 😉

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/338 "2011-07-21T20:21:20Z")

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> [@Spoke](#):
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> Well yeah, but that’s generally the case, so I cop to it. 😃

Well, OK, ten points for cool.

But still, who are these people? Where are they? Can you point them out, or is this just some vaporous cloud that nobody can actually pinpoint, but everybody swears they know about.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/339 "2011-07-21T20:38:12Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> But still, who are these people? Where are they?

Wait, you want me to _name names_? I thought your generation frowned on that sort of thing.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/340 "2011-07-21T20:40:05Z")

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\*Why don’t you all f-fade away (Talkin’ ‘bout my generation)  
And don’t try to dig what we all s-s-say (Talkin’ ‘bout my generation)  
I’m not trying to cause a big s-s-sensation (Talkin’ ‘bout my generation)  
I’m just talkin’ ‘bout my g-g-g-generation (Talkin’ 'bout my generation) \*

- The Who

_It’s just a generation rumble  
A war between two worlds_

- Dave Edmunds

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