# Fuck the Baby Boomers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 16, 2011, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212 "2011-07-16T03:00:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/41 "2011-07-16T10:01:11Z")
I’m “that age” but I’m certainly not “that mentality”. Up until I moved to the states, I worked two jobs, and have never fit the “spoiled entitled” profile. I don’t know very many people in my age group who aren’t firm believers in responsibility and accountability for one’s own life. The “die already, you’re old, ugly, useless, and selfish” rhetoric sounds very “Logan’s Run” and yeah, giant brush. > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by JoThrive View Post > I’m a mother of a baby boomer. Guess I just better crawl off into a corner and die!!! > [@](#): > > No, that is the point my fair lady. The parents of Baby Boomers are great a **nd their kids are too** but you don’t hear that much about them. You can’t be blamed simply because you didn’t realize what you were creating when when you brought your child into the world. Luckily, these things skip generations so your grandchildren should be fine too. bolding mine… Wait, wouldn’t the kids of parents of baby boomers BE baby boomers? I thought you just said they were a horrible generation. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/42 "2011-07-16T13:11:56Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I know this may be difficult for some of our more elderly posters to remember, but [telling other posters to fuck themselves is against the pit’s language rules.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508858) Let’s all try to avoid such language in the future. You’ll have to excuse them. They’re getting a bit senile. ;)😃 ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/43 "2011-07-16T13:38:43Z")
You know, I’m 56 and I’ve spent a substantial portion of my life working for change that directly benefits little boys like you. Ending one war. Still trying to end the two others that are draining our resources right now. Working for clean air and water. Working to end discrimination based on gender or sexual preference. Working to stop the increasing corpocracy. Volunteering to help with vets suffering from PTSD. Volunteering to feed and shelter the homeless. Volunteering to visit and write to prisoners in jail. Volunteering to try and end the death penalty in Texas. Teaching immigrants to speak English. Teaching families how to raise healthy food for their communities. Many of my ‘elderly’ friends have and are doing the same. No we haven’t ended hunger or poverty or racism or war but you know what, it’s not for the lack of trying. Can I ask what the hell you’ve done recently? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/44 "2011-07-16T14:45:53Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I know this may be difficult for some of our more elderly posters to remember, but [telling other posters to fuck themselves is against the pit’s language rules.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508858) Let’s all try to avoid such language in the future. Just so I have it straight: he’s allowed to troll and obliquely tell people “fuck you” without chastisement, but we are not allowed to return the favor. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/45 "2011-07-16T14:59:47Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Just so I have it straight: he’s allowed to troll and obliquely tell people “fuck you” without chastisement, but we are not allowed to return the favor. Got it. Come on grandpa, you know what the nice mod meant. You can say “fuck you” to a group of people with repercussions. What you can’t do is tell a specific poster to “fuck off.” ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/46 "2011-07-16T15:01:03Z")
> [@jlzania](#): > > Can I ask what the hell you’ve done recently? Do you really think Xers and Yers don’t do these things? I swear, if it’s not in the newspaper or on the nightly news, Boomers are completely blind to everything else that’s happening in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/47 "2011-07-16T15:14:25Z")
> [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](#): > > Fuck you too, asshole. I apologize for this; it was inappropriate. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/48 "2011-07-16T15:22:05Z")
All you [punks](http://www.bullnotbull.com/img2007/boomer-1.gif), get off my message board! [Boomers](http://www.confirmit.com/Confirmit/media/library/images/blog/grace_park_02.jpg) [rock](http://www.posters.ws/images/360514/boomer_esiason_looking_for_receiver_photofile.jpg)! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/49 "2011-07-16T15:22:34Z")
We gave you rock ‘n roll, the Summer of Love, weed, and a thousand other things I’d list if early Alzheimers hadn’t set in. If it wasn’t for us, you’d be wearying white shirts and ties to work every day. You’d still be eating Wonder Bread and fake cheese. Without us, you got nothin’, baby. The times they are a changin’!! And you wouldn’t be saying “fuck you” in public, either. **John Mace** , proud Boomer (birth class of '56). ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/50 "2011-07-16T15:31:28Z")
> [@Indygrrl](#): > > Hip hop music is creative, revolutionary, exciting and it’s always changing and evolving. But it’s just a continuation of R&B. Especially the song that samples the 62-year-old Ray Charles cut. ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/51 "2011-07-16T15:37:00Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Do you really think Xers and Yers don’t do these things? I swear, if it’s not in the newspaper or on the nightly news, Boomers are completely blind to everything else that’s happening in the world. Of course I do. I work with them. That’s why I’m not offering a general ‘fuck you’ to people of any specific age group or blindly lumping them together. Do you have any idea of the world I inherited in my late teens and twenties? America was pumping resources into an unwinnable war of oppression in Southeast Asia. Those of us that were trying to end that war were often beaten and jailed. Gay men were being arrested and /or murdered for being well, gay men. People of color were being even more blatantly discriminated against then they are today. Ditto women of all colors and classes. You couldn’t legally obtain an abortion. There was no such thing as spousal rape. Rape victims were routinely blamed because of their behavior or dress. In 1969, the Cuyahoga River in Cleveland caught on fire because it was so polluted. DDT was contributing to the threatening the survival of many bird species. The list goes on. My point is that it’s very easy to blame the preceeding generation for the current mess we’re in right now without considering what issues they had to face. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/52 "2011-07-16T15:39:18Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > We gave you rock 'n roll Nope, that was the Silent Generation. > [@](#): > > the Summer of Love Woodstock was a corporate [fraud](http://www.cracked.com/article/116_5-facts-about-woodstock-hippies-dont-want-you-to-know/). > [@](#): > > weed [Nope](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_%28drug%29#History), Dave’s not here and Boomers didn’t give the world weed. However, one thing you did is take boasting to an art form. I guess that’s something. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/53 "2011-07-16T15:43:28Z")
> [@jlzania](#): > > My point is that it’s very easy to blame the preceeding generation for the current mess we’re in right now without considering what issues they had to face. You’re right of course, just as it’s very easy to bitch about the kids today (it seems to be a trend over the last few days on these boards). But the thing that makes me crazy about Boomers is that they refuse to admit that they’ve fucked up pretty royally and they don’t want to look to other generations for help. It’s time to step aside, and until they do that, any of the good they’ve done will be forgotten by the continual fuck ups. ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/54 "2011-07-16T15:44:58Z")
Lost my edit window before I could change the sentence to “DDT was threatening the survival of many bird species”. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/55 "2011-07-16T15:47:05Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > … the Baby Boomers, the generation of self-entitlement and generally obnoxious people. Everything is about them and has been since the 1950’s which, according to my calendar, was over 60 years ago. We should be a few generations past that by now. > > You people are old now. It is time to put down the microphone and get your sorry ass to the nursing home. You ever notice younger, more attractive, and less obnoxious people walking around. Here, I will introduce you. Meet your kids and grandkids. They are much more responsible and worthy than you ever thought about being. Grandma Pamela, I don’t really give a shit about Woodstock or how good the free love was. From there, it was one sorry trend after another. Yuppies? Disco? Aerobicizing? You can’t defend any of it. > > Do everyone a favor and exit center stage gracefully for once. Extended bows for applause aren’t necessary. I am from the Baby Boomer generation. I saw the thread title and clicked, intending to post supportive remarks: there are senses in which the Boomer generation is a big problem. In some ways, the path forward for America may indeed involve “Fucking the Baby Boomers.” But then I read OP, which is 100% gibberish, tripe and twisted half-truths. So put me down as willing to Fuck the Boomers, but even more willing to Fuck whatever misbegotten Ilk OP came from. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/56 "2011-07-16T15:55:26Z")
As I posted in another thread, stereotyping a whole segment of humanity by ‘generation’ is as foolish as stereotyping them by ‘race’. But hey, lots of words were expended declaring blacks to be lazy, jews to be money-grubbing, irish to be less than human, asians to be disloyal, etc. People have mostly learned better than to do that anymore, so have at it about boomers. ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/57 "2011-07-16T16:00:58Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > You’re right of course, just as it’s very easy to bitch about the kids today (it seems to be a trend over the last few days on these boards). But the thing that makes me crazy about Boomers is that they refuse to admit that they’ve fucked up pretty royally and they don’t want to look to other generations for help. It’s time to step aside, and until they do that, any of the good they’ve done will be forgotten by the continual fuck ups. Why can’t we work together to affect change? Surely we have a better chance of creating a world worth living in if we do it side by side. Trust me, I’d rather spend my time raising chickens and riding horses and reading books. To quote Steve Earle: > [@](#): > > One of these days I’m gonna lay this hammer down > And I won’t have to drag this weight around > When there ain’t no hunger > And there ain’t no pain > Then I won’t have to swing this thing > One of these day I’m gonna lay this hammer down… > > One of these nights I’m gonna sing a different tune > All night long beneath the silvery moon > When the war is over > And the union’s strong > Won’t sing no more angry songs > One of these nights I’m gonna sing a different tune > One of these days I’m gonna lay this hammer down > Leave my burden restin’ on the ground > When the air don’t choke ya and the ocean’s clean > And kids don’t die for gasoline > One of these days I’m gonna lay this hammer down… ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/58 "2011-07-16T16:10:17Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Nope, that was the Silent Generation. > > Woodstock was a corporate [fraud](http://www.cracked.com/article/116_5-facts-about-woodstock-hippies-dont-want-you-to-know/). > > [Nope](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_%28drug%29#History), Dave’s not here and Boomers didn’t give the world weed. > > However, one thing you did is take boasting to an art form. I guess that’s something. Evidence of the lack of ability by our children to distinquish between reality and internet, or a really good parody of current youth. The Silent Generation was a retcon to define a generation after the Boomer concept was recognized. You’ll notice it’s definition lacks coherency. Woodstock was an event in the Summer of Love, and rock was a business. There are no participation points in reality, so do you have a real one? Yes, marijuana existed before. So what. We made it available outside of the shadows. As our own stupid parents haven’t all died yet, it’s still mainly illegal for reasons no one can understand. And boasting?!?! We’re not boasting. You kids are so lame that you think this is boasting. We didn’t have high scores in video games, we actually did things. You’ll never have anything to boast about. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/59 "2011-07-16T17:15:47Z")
> [@jlzania](#): > > Why can’t we work together to affect change? > Surely we have a better chance of creating a world worth living in if we do it side by side. > Trust me, I’d rather spend my time raising chickens and riding horses and reading books. I’d love to work together, but I believe the boomers have poisoned the well. > [@TriPolar](#): > > The Silent Generation was a retcon to define a generation after the Boomer concept was recognized. So? My point is that boomers laying claim to rock and roll is moronic when its early pioneers were born in 1925 (Bill Haley) and 1940 (John Lennon), respectively. > [@](#): > > Woodstock was an event in the Summer of Love, and rock was a business. There are no participation points in reality, so do you have a real one? My point is that the Summer of Love is this hazy ill-defined thing and the reality behind most of the watershed events point more towards boomer nostalgia for their youth than life-altering superevent. > [@](#): > > Yes, marijuana existed before. So what. We made it available outside of the shadows. As our own stupid parents haven’t all died yet, it’s still mainly illegal for reasons no one can understand. As mentioned upthread, boomers hold a supermajority in both branches of Congress and the President is a boomer. If y’all wanted to legalize pot you would have done it already. Besides that, cannabis was sold legally in the US until 1906. How much more “out of the shadows” does it need to be? > [@](#): > > And boasting?!?! We’re not boasting. You kids are so lame that you think this is boasting. We didn’t have high scores in video games, we actually did things. You’ll never have anything to boast about. Like I said earlier, if boomers can’t see it, it isn’t happening. Go ahead and believe that you close-minded jackass. As for video games, using your own criteria, boomers created the video game industry too. Oh, and they still run it to this day. The executive head of nearly every major game company is a boomer. Modern video games were more or less created by Shigeru Miyamoto, a man who was born in 1952. Boomers did things alright. They created video games. I guess that means there’s one thing they did that didn’t suck. ---
**Author:** ![LilyoftheField](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/13edae/32.png) [@LilyoftheField](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheField)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/60 "2011-07-16T17:21:44Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > In case anyone accuses this of being a joke pitting, I promise you that it is not. I became motivated to write this after I read an article about recent breakthroughs in the science of aging and how it could lead to some Baby Boomers having a substantially increased lifespan. In other words, Baby Boomers won’t ever die, they will just find a cure for aging. > > Speaking for most people under 50, I say NNNOOOOO!!! Of course the article focused on the Baby Boomers, the generation of self-entitlement and generally obnoxious people. Everything is about them and has been since the 1950’s which, according to my calendar, was over 60 years ago. We should be a few generations past that by now. > > You people are old now. It is time to put down the microphone and get your sorry ass to the nursing home. You ever notice younger, more attractive, and less obnoxious people walking around. Here, I will introduce you. Meet your kids and grandkids. They are much more responsible and worthy than you ever thought about being. Grandma Pamela, I don’t really give a shit about Woodstock or how good the free love was. From there, it was one sorry trend after another. Yuppies? Disco? Aerobicizing? You can’t defend any of it. > > Do everyone a favor and exit center stage gracefully for once. Extended bows for applause aren’t necessary. So…you read an article about scientific breakthroughs and it caused you to get your hate on for a whole generation of people? Which includes your own parents? Because they might live longer now? 😕 You don’t want your parents to live longer? You don’t want to live longer? You don’t want your children to live longer? Is that what’s got your panties in a knot? Maybe you’re afraid the boomers are going to take the secret of long life with them when they go, because they are so selfish and entitled? Or do you just want to be in charge of deciding who gets to benefit from these scientific breakthroughs? Younger? Yeah, I notice that all the time. More attractive? Certainly, but that’s nothing new. Less obnoxious? Um…not so much. Yuppies, disco and aerobicise? Really? That’s all you got? A three-legged horse is not as lame as this rant. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212.md?page=4)