# Fuck the Baby Boomers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 16, 2011, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212 "2011-07-16T03:00:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/121 "2011-07-17T00:50:37Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Not really. > > In 1968, the last year the under 30 group had \> 50% approval, you’re talking people born as early as 1938. That’s a whole lot of non-boomers in that group. Assuming they only asked people 18 and older, that would be people born between 1938 and 1950. More non-boomers birth years than boomer years. As more an more boomers enter that category, support drops well below 50%. Sure, but support is dropping across the board. If you look at the 30-49 year old cohort, support ranges from 46 to 39% in 1968 down to 30% in May of 71 (and among over 50s, from 35-23%. I don’t think the dropping of support is because of more and more boomers are entering the cohort; it’s because the war is getting less and less popular generally. If boomers had some special opposition to the war, do you have any evidence to support that? I’m not just asking for you to show me that there were Boomers who were against the war, because there obviously were, or that were young people involved in protests, because I’ll concede that. Protests are a young man’s game. But do you have statistical evidence showing that people born after 1945 were more against the Vietnam War as a group than people born before 1945? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/122 "2011-07-17T01:11:45Z")
The older generation had more conflicted loyalty, they were much more likely to despise war protesters even though they might privately acknowledge that everything about the war sucked. I had many close relatives who felt otherwise, and strongly, but for me I don’t see that a man honors his country by helping it do what it should not. There is a lot of mileage variance to that notion. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/123 "2011-07-17T01:29:02Z")
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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/124 "2011-07-17T01:37:50Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > The older generation had more conflicted loyalty, they were much more likely to despise war protesters even though they might privately acknowledge that everything about the war sucked. I had many close relatives who felt otherwise, and strongly, but for me I don’t see that a man honors his country by helping it do what it should not. There is a lot of mileage variance to that notion. Well, there’s no question in my mind that younger people tended to be more supportive of active demonstrations and street protests than older people, but that doesn’t become “more against the war”. That’s more of a difference on what forms of political opposition and protest are acceptable, and certainly the baby boomer generation was and still is more willing to “take to the streets” (on the right too, remember. Abortion clinic protestors and tea party people tend to skew Boomer too). ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/125 "2011-07-17T02:13:03Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > Cure the ills we face, or cure the ills you face? You guys are in charge, it doesn’t take a genius to figure it out, yet you can’t get it done. Even when it’s right there in front of you. > > Your generation had no problem voting yourselves the treasury with health care, you had no problem in assisting with the looting of Social Security, you had no problem changing the US into a 90% service economy from a hulking economic behemoth, you had no problem with the endless stream of tax reductions, and you had no problem raising the trade deficits and debt to astronomical levels. But now, after screwing me and my son sideways, you’re going to ask for my help, for solutions to the problems you helped to cause? > > OK. Here’s the deal. Ready? Spend less than you take in. There, I solved your problem for you. That was easy. Of course, that would require a complete reversal of thinking from every single one of you, since that has never, ever been the case at any point in your lifetimes. **“Gas anyone over 50!”** But seriously, your post is QFT. The really funny thing is that I was born in 63, of parents from the previously mentioned “Silent Generation”. I wasn’t raised by “Greatest Generation” parents, neither was I raised by “Boomer” parents. Culturally, I fit in neither “Boomer” nor “Gen X”. There aren’t many of us, and neither side speaks for us. They are all fucking loons. No one has even bothered to name us. They only try to claim us. A pox on both your houses! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/126 "2011-07-17T02:28:56Z")
**Airman** almost had me going for a minute, in Post #108 ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/127 "2011-07-17T02:54:18Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Don’t confuse despair with lack of concern. It’s become quite obvious that there’s nothing the ordinary people can do that will change anything. Protests are ignored, vote for whomever you like and even if they win they’ll ignore the wishes of the people who voted them in to do what they wealthy masters of this country want done. Nothing the common people do will have any effect on the government and the rest of the power structure; they are steering the country over a cliff and all 90%+ of the population can do is watch while their future is destroyed. Holy fucking shit! I _never_ thought I would agree with _anything_ **Der Trihs** said, but I _must_ QFT this… Damn. Am I now doomed to the hell he _vehemently_ (but I merely don’t believe in) denies? What’s the world coming to? Maybe the fundies are right. Armageddon is right around the corner. :smack::eek::(:dubious: ---
**Author:** ![JillGat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JillGat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JillGat)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/128 "2011-07-17T03:35:25Z")
1. I was born in 1954 and I’m not over 60, so I question your math. 2. At least we didn’t talk on cell phones while driving and rely on the internet to meet people. 3. Go to your room. ---
**Author:** ![dada2fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@dada2fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dada2fish)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/129 "2011-07-17T04:08:26Z")
> [@](#): > > Officially, to be a Baby Boomer you must have been born between 1946 and 1964. My brother is a Boomer and I’m in Generation X, a fact I love to remind him of. I was born in 1964 I don’t relate to Baby Boomers or Generation X. I am what someone coined “Generation Jones” People born between the years 1954 and 1965. Obama included. As one article described it, “They were the Baby Boomers who didn’t make it to Woodstock — because it would have taken them way past their bedtimes.” [Generation Jones](http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/business-brains/understanding-8216generation-jones-and-other-mini-generation-gaps/4439) ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/130 "2011-07-17T04:09:05Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > Compare early Rock’n’Roll to what Hendrix and the Grateful Dead were doing. Or just look at the Beatles from “Love Me Do” to anything on Sgt. Pepper: When things start to get more complex, you hear increased improvisation, longer instrumentals, and more chord structures than you can get out of classic blues changes. You begin to get the beginnings of progressive rock, which is just jazz with electric guitars and a more obvious beat. In jazz, that kind of complexity dates to bebop, which dates to the 1940s, when the earliest Boomers were just being born. You **really** don’t need to explain to us the history of popular music from 1962 - 1975. Rock is a blues-based genre, which doesn’t need to channel Miles Davis or John Coltrane to be improvisational. As with blues music, it’s possible for a creative rock musician to improvise without playing jazz. Sure, jazz did have some influence on many rock musicians, but it’s only one of many influences and doesn’t account for all improv rock. Eric Clapton sure as hell wasn’t playing jazz when he was with Cream, and I don’t think he really ever has. Jimi Hendrix and the Beatles weren’t playing jazz either. Sure, when you do get to jazz rock fusion and the prog-rockers, there’s a bit more jazz in there, but it was a minor factor IMO. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/131 "2011-07-17T04:22:06Z")
We in America sure don’t honor and respect the old generations. It says a lot about us as a people. It is not good. ---
**Author:** ![Vannort54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8dc957/32.png) [@Vannort54](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vannort54)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/132 "2011-07-17T04:22:49Z")
Well if it went for baby boomers generation x would not be here generation x is a lazy generation and want everything handed to them.You do not know what real manual labor .In ever seen so many generation x people apply for social security disability for mental problems and physical problems how can your generation have physical problems you are lazy and don’t work like the baby boomers did you people want a free ride so you can play your video games or drink or do drugs. If you people get off your lazy asses and get a job then maybe us baby boomers can quit work but we can’t because most of you still live at home with mommy and daddy and they are still paying your way generation x needs there asses kicked into high gear and stop talking down the baby boomers because we are still supporting your lazy asses. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/133 "2011-07-17T04:35:27Z")
[http://wps.prenhall.com/wps/media/objects/3918/4012970/NursingTools/ch23\_CultViewElders\_407.pdf](http://wps.prenhall.com/wps/media/objects/3918/4012970/NursingTools/ch23_CultViewElders_407.pdf) We have spoiled our children. It shows other cultures have not spoiled their children and had them turn on them. ---
**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/134 "2011-07-17T04:50:46Z")
Never trust anyone older than 51 and younger than 67. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/135 "2011-07-17T04:56:44Z")
> [@Isamu](#): > > > [@Shagnasty](#): > > > > The parents of Baby Boomers are great and their kids are too > > The kids are great　(for spare parts). “Come to gramma Jimmy!” 🙂 > [@Indygrrl](#): > > Hip hop music is creative, revolutionary, exciting and it’s always changing and evolving. 😃 You guys are great! I can’t tell who’s serious in this thread, but it’s all comedy gold. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/136 "2011-07-17T04:57:34Z")
Isn’t the OP (and a lot of the rest of you) too damned old to be complaining about how stupid and square his old man is? Is this where we are? 30 year old children still complaining about their parents? Don’t like that the Old Man is still in charge? Freaking run for the senate and take his seat! It worked for Oedipus. ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/137 "2011-07-17T04:59:55Z")
\*\*Fuck the Baby Boomers \*\* Aw man! I opened this thread thinking it would be a discussion of all the MILF websites out there. Oh well, I think kids are soo cute when they reach 30 and realize they are still a long way from being in charge. It’s so precious. But they will get over it, much the same as they out grow the “Terrible Twos.” ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/138 "2011-07-17T05:01:00Z")
> [@Vannort54](#): > > Well if it went for baby boomers generation x would not be here generation x is a lazy generation and want everything handed to them.. So, why can’t we be like you were, perfect in every way? ---
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/139 "2011-07-17T05:20:38Z")
Yeah, we had a Colorado governor a few years ago who made a speech where he said old people had a duty to die and get out of the way. So he’s now 75 and still working, and actually looks pretty youthful. I have to say, though, it’s not like baby boomers CHOSE to be boomers. We couldn’t help it. But you know what? I really wish the rockers from my youth would RETIRE. Right now! No more touring! Retire, and quit clogging up the concert halls, for the sake of your dignity! You may rock to your heart’s content in private. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Vannort54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8dc957/32.png) [@Vannort54](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vannort54)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/140 "2011-07-17T05:21:50Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > So, why can’t we be like you were, perfect in every way? Because you won’t stop playing video games and you don’t want to work you think that everything should be handed to you. Bring back the draft like it was in our day and let’s see how many of you are willing to die for this country like we did in Vietnam at least you will have a job instead of mooching off of your parents. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212.md?page=8)