# Fuck the Baby Boomers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 16, 2011, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212 "2011-07-16T03:00:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Vannort54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8dc957/32.png) [@Vannort54](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vannort54)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/141 "2011-07-17T05:24:11Z")

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> [@JillGat](#):
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> 1. I was born in 1954 and I’m not over 60, so I question your math.
> 2. At least we didn’t talk on cell phones while driving and rely on the internet to meet people.
> 3. Go to your room.

How true take away there allowance

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**Author:** ![Vannort54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8dc957/32.png) [@Vannort54](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vannort54)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/142 "2011-07-17T05:26:06Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Nope, that was the Silent Generation.
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> Woodstock was a corporate [fraud](http://www.cracked.com/article/116_5-facts-about-woodstock-hippies-dont-want-you-to-know/).
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> [Nope](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_%28drug%29#History), Dave’s not here and Boomers didn’t give the world weed.
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> However, one thing you did is take boasting to an art form. I guess that’s something.

How would you know you were just a wet spot in your daddy’s drawers.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/143 "2011-07-17T05:41:24Z")

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> [@jlzania](#):
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> Volunteering to help with vets suffering from PTSD.

Fuckin’ A. My dad, a WWII vet, self-medicated for decades before a Vietnam-Era doc at the VA said, “I know what you have. You guys thought you were too cool for it.” Dad’s last five years were happier than the previous 40.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/144 "2011-07-17T05:58:40Z")

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> [@Vannort54](#):
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> Well if it went for baby boomers generation x would not be here generation x is a lazy generation and want everything handed to them.You do not know what real manual labor .In ever seen so many generation x people apply for social security disability for mental problems and physical problems how can your generation have physical problems you are lazy and don’t work like the baby boomers did you people want a free ride so you can play your video games or drink or do drugs. If you people get off your lazy asses and get a job then maybe us baby boomers can quit work but we can’t because most of you still live at home with mommy and daddy and they are still paying your way generation x needs there asses kicked into high gear and stop talking down the baby boomers because we are still supporting your lazy asses.

That may all be true. On the other hand, at least I’m not functionally illiterate, which, it appears, is more than you can say. Or, rather, write.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/145 "2011-07-17T06:57:46Z")

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> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#):
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> But you know what? I really wish the rockers from my youth would RETIRE. Right now! No more touring! Retire, and quit clogging up the concert halls, for the sake of your dignity!
> 
> You may rock to your heart’s content in private. Thank you.

Do you mind if they waited until next week? Because my parents (born '48 and '49) are taking my wife and me to see Paul Simon this Thursday, and we’re all really looking forward to it.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/146 "2011-07-17T07:32:04Z")

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> [@MissSwitac](#):
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> I was born in 1964 I don’t relate to Baby Boomers or Generation X. I am what someone coined “Generation Jones” People born between the years 1954 and 1965. Obama included. As one article described it, “They were the Baby Boomers who didn’t make it to Woodstock — because it would have taken them way past their bedtimes.”  
> [Generation Jones](http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/business-brains/understanding-8216generation-jones-and-other-mini-generation-gaps/4439)

I’ve been racking my brain for a term to describe that generation!

Guys, come on. Obama is **not** a boomer. Census figures are a separate issue from generational cohesion. Bear with me…

Bill Clinton and George W. Bush are indisputably Boomers, both born 1946. John Kerry was born in 1943, so according to those oft-quoted statistics, not part of the statistical post-war boom. Culturally, though, I’d say he is a Boomer, and a contemporary of Clinton and Bush, not least because all three of them, during their campaigns, got their feet held to the fire about Vietnam. (And it’s the two who didn’t go who got elected. :dubious:) John McCain was in 'Nam, but he was born in 1936, and that has to be a different generation.

However, there’s no way Obama is a contemporary of any of those guys. When the cease-fire was called, he was **twelve**. He wasn’t even old enough to protest the war. Not a Boomer, regardless of census figures. He didn’t experience the 1960s the same way those guys did; he came of age at a later time. So if Generation Jones is the people between Boomers and Xers, that’s what he is.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/147 "2011-07-17T08:33:16Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> I’ve been racking my brain for a term to describe that generation!

I truly, deeply hate that, as I heard about it on phony “Underground Radio” and I had class the next day.

Woodstock is one of the things you heard about from those who weren’t there.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/148 "2011-07-17T09:25:03Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> I truly, deeply hate that, as I heard about it on phony “Underground Radio” and I had class the next day.

😕 What do you hate? What does having class the next day have to do with it?

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/149 "2011-07-17T09:28:34Z")

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Today’s young have about the same genes as of earlier generations. Any differences are due to the environment, which in turn results from previous generations. For this reason, I do not understand the animosity, or pointing fingers of blame.

> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> I will say that that’s part of the attitude that grates, the sort of holier-than-thou condescension. The whole, “Look at us, when we were young, we CARED about things. We demonstrated against war and racism. But you young people today, you don’t care about anything, you sad, sad people.” When you start talking like that, you get people’s ire up.

Sorry. I didn’t say I was mad, I said I was sad. Am I wrong, BTW? Is today’s youth trying to lead political change, as some of us did in the 60’s?

**Der Trihs** implies that there is a despair that political change is difficult, and the young have given up. This is sad; I’ve no optimistic words to offer except that giving up is the path to certain failure.

> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> … asking if sending troops to Vietnam was a mistake, … 61% of those over 50 said it was a mistake, compared to 49% of those between 21-29.

Since the relative wisdoms of age and youth is a separate topic, I’ll just reiterate the point I made that you ignored:

_ **Change must come from the young.** _ The young have more energy, more adventure, more reason to care about the future. I think that political change tends to come from the young, though I don’t have a cite handy.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/150 "2011-07-17T09:32:18Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> _ **Change must come from the young.** _.

Well, obviously. Sooner or later they’re the only ones left.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/151 "2011-07-17T10:17:57Z")

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> [@Vannort54](#):
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> Well if it went for baby boomers generation x would not be here generation x is a lazy generation and want everything handed to them.You do not know what real manual labor .In ever seen so many generation x people apply for social security disability for mental problems and physical problems how can your generation have physical problems you are lazy and don’t work like the baby boomers did you people want a free ride so you can play your video games or drink or do drugs. If you people get off your lazy asses and get a job then maybe us baby boomers can quit work but we can’t because most of you still live at home with mommy and daddy and they are still paying your way generation x needs there asses kicked into high gear and stop talking down the baby boomers because we are still supporting your lazy asses.

You’ve had, at the minimum, 47 years to learn how to read and write. Yet this is what you produce?

Talk about lazy. If this is what I am to measure you by I don’t believe you capable of holding down a job at McDonald’s.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/152 "2011-07-17T14:17:56Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> People are people, IMHO. And labeling them by age has about as much validity as labeling them by skin color, nationality, religion, or language spoken.

You sound just like my 7th grade homeroom teacher, Mrs. Coles.

Well O.K., she was right too.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/153 "2011-07-17T15:25:26Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Sorry. I didn’t say I was mad, I said I was sad. Am I wrong, BTW? Is today’s youth trying to lead political change, as some of us did in the 60’s?

Of course you’re wrong. Who do you think is leading the fight for gay marriage rights? Who do you think swept Obama into office on the back of unprecedented new voter registration?

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/154 "2011-07-17T16:24:05Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> _ **Change must come from the young.** _ The young have more energy, more adventure, more reason to care about the future. I think that political change tends to come from the young, though I don’t have a cite handy.

Well, if it makes you feel better, Glenn Beck, Andrew Breitbart, Matt Drudge, Michelle Malkin, Rich Lowry, Jonah Goldberg and the founders of Red State and NewsMax are all Xers, and they’re definitely trying to bring about political change.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/155 "2011-07-17T16:38:43Z")

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> [@Vannort54](#):
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> Because you won’t stop playing video games and you don’t want to work you think that everything should be handed to you. Bring back the draft like it was in our day and let’s see how many of you are willing to die for this country like we did in Vietnam at least you will have a job instead of mooching off of your parents.

Many Generation Xers are too old even to enlist in the US military, much less be drafted. You’re talking about people in their 30s and 40s.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/156 "2011-07-17T16:39:59Z")

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> [@](#):
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> People are tired of liberty. They have had a surfeit of it. Liberty is no longer a chaste and austere virgin…. Today’s youth are moved by other slogans…Order, Hierarchy, Discipline.

- Benny Mussolini

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/157 "2011-07-17T17:16:55Z")

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He must’ve been from northern Italy to have said that.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/158 "2011-07-17T17:51:53Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> Many Generation Xers are too old even to enlist in the US military, much less be drafted. You’re talking about people in their 30s and 40s.

Exactly. Several boomers have made snippy comments directed towards me and others in the GenX generation. Those comments have wondered if I will ever have kids or if we as group stop mooching off of our parents and get a real job. Listen up delusional ones, most GenXers are very much fully grown. I have been constitutionally qualified to run for president for several years but I am mainly thinking smaller like raising my two kids the best way I can. Some of us have enough time in our careers to qualify for certain types of pensions. Realistically speaking, many of us are middle-aged but you don’t like to acknowledge that because what does that make you? You don’t hear much about us though because we just go out there and give it the best we can even though your generation never let go of the death grip on power to set up a workable legacy for us. It was all just self-serving tripe and will continue as the goalposts move wherever the Boomers want them to.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/159 "2011-07-17T17:56:00Z")

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Bet your ass! We are going to carpe the snot out of every diem we can find. You youngsters don’t matter, except to stay employed to pay our Social Security and as a source of transplants. It’s all about us, and it always will be. Never give up! Never surrender!  
😛

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-baby-boomers/589212/160 "2011-07-17T18:35:42Z")

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Kids were polite back in the day, you walk up to a circle passing a joint, you were automatically included, none of this “Dude, is that cold sore?” shit. Energy drinks, my ass, we just gobbled a handful of No-Doz or Jet-Awake, get your caffeine for a nickel! Taurine, bullshit! Extract of bull, is it? Well, then, we sure don’t want any guanine, now do we!

Go amongst a bunch of these punks, you’ll never see a good old American onion on those belts! No, hell, no, they gotta have a bunch of Belgian scallions, bought at Whole Foods for $3.95 each…

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