# Fuck the Chicago Cubs **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 18, 2025, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142 "2025-09-18T02:33:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142/1 "2025-09-18T02:33:59Z")
I have been a huge Cubs fan since moving to Chicago over twenty years ago, but last Friday the team informed me that it no longer desires my support. It did so by holding a moment of silence and lowering the flags to half-mast in honor of racist provocateur Charlie Kirk, who believed, among other things, that “black women don’t have the brainpower to be taken seriously” and that gay people should be stoned to death, and that “Nuremberg trials” should be held for doctors who provide gender-affirming care. To put this in context, the Cubs did nothing to honor the memories of the Democratic State representative and her husband murdered by a MAGA extremist last month. Nor did they do anything when another Trump supporter attacked the elderly husband of Paul Pelosi with a hammer. Nor when Gabby Giffords was shot by a MAGA fanatic. But they feel that this loathsome, hatemongering piece of shit deserves to be “honored”? All 30 major league teams have played home games since Kirk’s death, and 28 of them did the right thing by not allowing their brand to be exploited by extremists for partisan political purposes. Now I just have to pick which of those 28 to support. It breaks my heart to leave (and throw away a few hundred bucks worth of hats and T-shirts), but clearly the Cubs only want white Christian heterosexual fans now, so fuck 'em. May they finish in the basement for the next hundred years. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142/2 "2025-09-18T02:39:01Z")
I’ve been a Cubbies fan since 1972. Barring an apology for this dick move, I will no longer be a Cubbies fan. ---
**Author:** ![DaveUnknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@DaveUnknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveUnknown)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142/3 "2025-09-18T03:06:56Z")
Wow. That’s not a good sign. Things are starting to get a little concerning…. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142/4 "2025-09-18T03:12:50Z")
Cubs owners are huge MAGA heads. This is well known. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142/5 "2025-09-18T19:49:03Z")
> [@Zoobi](#): > > Cubs owners are huge MAGA heads. If the players aren’t, I could still enjoy watching them play. That’s only my attitude, and I can compartmentalize pretty well. I do support anyone who wants to boycott the Cubs… or ABC, or Disney, or Neil Gaiman, or J.K. Rowling (but I _might_ have just downloaded her latest audiobook…). ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142/6 "2025-09-18T19:56:16Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > Now I just have to pick which of those 28 to support Jump on the Mariners bandwagon. The worst thing they do is play _God Bless America_ mid 7th inning on Sunday home games. I’ve complained, but to no avail. I know the Yankees pandered to MAGA. Now the Cubs. Is that all the teams? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142/7 "2025-09-18T21:23:46Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Is that all the teams? Yup, just those two. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142/8 "2025-09-18T21:47:57Z")
Give it time, there will be pressure on those who don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142/9 "2025-09-18T23:28:17Z")
I can understand the Yankees catering to Kirk fans given their history, but didn’t expect the Cubs to go even further. Given both teams making the playoffs, don’t expect boycotts to have any effect. Wonder if either will start selling Kirk-themed merch at the ballpark and online. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142/10 "2025-09-18T23:29:31Z")
> [@Zoobi](#): > > Cubs owners are huge MAGA heads. This is well known. A friend of mine is married to one of the Cubs’ owners (i.e., she is one of the Ricketts family). My friend’s wife is a liberal lesbian; the rest of her family is…neither of those things. ---
**Author:** ![Ancient\_Nerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed655f/32.png) [@Ancient\_Nerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Nerd)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142/11 "2025-09-19T07:09:42Z")
Sounds like the return of the Billy goat. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142/12 "2025-09-19T10:36:45Z")
Did you let the Cubs know any of this, OP? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142/13 "2025-09-19T10:42:28Z")
I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that Kirk was born in Chicago and grew up in Illinois. (that only the Cubs “honored” Kirk while other teams didn’t.) ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142/14 "2025-09-19T20:36:33Z")
Hey, there’s always the White Sox, who are even endorsed by the Pope… …but are the White Sox. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142/15 "2025-09-19T21:11:53Z")
Yankees did, too. In fact, the Yankees did first. Chicago is, after all, the second city. I doubt any such tribute would happen on the south side, due mainly to the relative diversity of the fanbase vs. that on the north side. Although, the White Sox seem all in on fawning over the Pope, and don’t get me started on the Catholic church. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142/16 "2025-09-19T21:40:55Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I doubt any such tribute would happen on the south side, due mainly to the relative diversity of the fanbase vs. that on the north side. I don’t think there are many Kirk fans on the North Side of Chicago. I hope I’m not wrong about that. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142/17 "2025-09-19T22:17:21Z")
Indiana, Iowa and most of rural Illinois are all Cubs country, while Sox fans are mostly in and very near Chicago itself. So yes, it’s safe to assume the overall Cubs fanbase is more conservative, though I don’t think Cubs fans _in Chicago_ are more conservative than Chicagoans in general. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142/18 "2025-09-19T22:24:58Z")
I’m disappointed in The Yankees. I’m disappointed in The Cubs. \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* ---
**Author:** ![P-man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/p-man/32/3606_2.png) [@P-man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/P-man)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142/20 "2025-09-19T23:00:31Z")
As woeful at the Nationals have been this season, at least they didn’t do that. Assistant pitching coach Sean Doolittle, who was the closer for the 2019 World Series champions, refused to go to the White House, saying “I don’t want to hang out with someone like that.” ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142/21 "2025-09-19T23:02:59Z")
> [@Fla\_Pamfuh](#): > > The Cubs did not remotely tell you they don’t want your support. Rather, the organization simply chose to pay respects to a presidential decree and a senseless murder by a mentally unbalanced kid who thought assassination was justified for political disagreement. Your knee jerk reaction and cancel culture decision to boycott the team is on you. Own it and don’t put words or agenda into the Cubs organization’s mouth. Go pound Florida where the sun doesn’t shine Pam. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-chicago-cubs/1023142.md?page=2)