# Fuck the Fucking Shit!!!! We're Fucked Now!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 20, 2006, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398 "2006-02-20T23:49:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398/101 "2006-02-22T00:59:15Z")
This is your brain: > [@NotAWellWoman](#): > > Thank you so much for your intelligent and helpful comments regarding my original posting of the previous evening. I found your insight and understanding most effective, and your rational assumptions regarding myself fascinating and life-changing. In the future, be assured that I intend to consult all of you when I have an issue with which I need similar assistance. > > Sincerely. NAWW This is your brain on drugs: > [@Not a Well Woman](#): > > What the FUCK is Bush thinking??? WHY did he just sell this whole fucking country up the river and what the fuck are we going to do about it??? The Arab Nation running 6 major ports in the USA WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THAT???WE ARE SO FUCKED!!! > Why doesn’t he just MOVE there is he thinks those primitive assholes are so great? And not a word of explanation or any forewarning at all!!! > I AM HAVING THE HISSY FIT OF MY LIFE! > HELP ME! Any questions? ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398/102 "2006-02-22T01:05:32Z")
> [@Gladstone](#): > > Not to pretend this isn’t anything more than anecdotal, but it wasn’t too uncommon to hear stories of American tourists in Europe getting yelled at, challenged, or just lectured by locals who assumed that Americans=Bush supporters, particularly before, during, and immediately after the “major combat operations” part of the Iraq war. Of course it’s wrong and all that, but given how 9/11 and Iraq have stirred many people up, it shouldn’t be too shocking when some people equate a person’s nationality with stereotypes or policies connected with that country. If I could be counter-anecdotal, I’ve been fortunate to have been able to travel all over the world, and the only evidence of anti-American sentiment I have seen was a worker in New Zealand who, when drunk, would rant about the McDonalds corporation and the creeping American culture that he thought threatened the world. It was pretty funny and I never knew if he was serious or not. I was in China when we blew up their embassy in that “targeting failure” or whatever they called it. I’ve been to France and Russia both before and after 9-11 and the invasion of Iraq. No one has ever blamed me for the foreign policy of my government. I don’t go around apologizing for my country, but I don’t go around beating my chest and chanting “USA USA”. I figure I’m a regular guy, I treat other people like they’re regular guys, and they treat me the same right back. I think anti-American sentiments are like four leaf clovers. Sure, they exist, but it’s hard to find them unless you look pretty hard. Anti-America sentiment though, is common, and getting more so. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398/103 "2006-02-22T14:50:24Z")
As far as I’m concerned, the fact that two of the 9/11 hijackers were from UAE should nix the deal. I see this as more of an accountability issue then a security one. I will admit that I’m not thrilled about the security aspects though. Get back to me when some Brits fly planes into our buildings. Something definitely stinks about this deal. [http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/21/rumsfeld-not-consulted/](http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/21/rumsfeld-not-consulted/) > [@](#): > > QUESTION: Are you confident that any problems with security — from what you know, are you confident that any problems with security would not be greater with a UAE company running this than an American company? > > ``` > RUMSFELD: I am reluctant to make judgments based on the minimal amount of information I have because I just heard about this over the weekend. > > ``` … > [@](#): > > Donald Rumsfeld, as Secretary of Defense, is a member of Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States. As such, he was one of the people who, according to the Treasury Department, unanimously approved the sale on February 13. How could do that when he didn’t even find out about the sale until last weekend? ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398/104 "2006-02-22T16:03:22Z")
You know, all of Bush’s excuses–and the echoey sound of all his boringly predictable, slavishly slobbery cultists’ cries of “President Bush is doing the right thing”–sound good on the unexamined surface, but the bottom line, for me, is that there are behind the scene details that will be that much more accessible to the people for whom they should remain the most inaccessible. ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398/105 "2006-02-22T17:01:50Z")
Let’s join **Not a Well Woman** in singing … _Fuck that fucking shit, Emir-fucker You’re a Dubai Sanddune Diner Emir-fucker …_ ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398/106 "2006-02-22T17:03:32Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Game over, man! GAME OVER! What are we gonna do now? We’re FUCKED! Maybe we could start a campfire, sing a few songs. ---
**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398/107 "2006-02-22T17:08:21Z")
My first impression was that you said “brains” rather than “brands” … * * * TBJ ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398/108 "2006-02-22T17:10:04Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > As far as I’m concerned, the fact that two of the 9/11 hijackers were from UAE should nix the deal. I see this as more of an accountability issue then a security one. I will admit that I’m not thrilled about the security aspects though. On the basis of that logic, Timothy McVey and Ted Kozinski (among many others) should disqualify the US from managing its own ports. The actions of a few do not dictate national or corporate policy of an entire nation. We should probably hire the Swiss to do it for us. They’d make the ports run like clockwork. _shish-bang_ Thank you, you’re too kind. Take my wife, please! Stranger ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398/109 "2006-02-22T17:12:39Z")
> [@Stranger On A Train](#): > > On the basis of that logic, Timothy McVey and Ted Kozinski (among many others) should disqualify the US from managing its own ports. Wow. That’s retarded. ---
**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398/110 "2006-02-22T17:12:46Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > You know that there are a lot of decaffeinated brands on the market that are just as tasty as the real thing, don’t you? Just so there’s no confusion, the above was in response to _your_ post. * * * True Blue Jack ---
**Author:** ![pantom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/34f0e0/32.png) [@pantom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pantom)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398/111 "2006-02-22T17:17:46Z")
The idea of Rummy saying he only found out about the deal over the weekend only looks bad on the surface. The reason is very simple, I’m sure: as a kid, I once had a summer job with NYC that sometimes involved attending Board of Estimate meetings, for some reason I don’t remember anymore. First thing I noticed is that, even though all kinds of high city officials were supposed to be members of it, they all almost always sent representatives to the meetings instead of attending in person. I’m sure much the same thing happened here. This I’m sure was treated as routine, especially given that the UAE is hardly considered any kind of threat, and that DPW is an established and reputable firm. Period, the end. It’s the way it should have been treated. Everything I see in opposition amounts to hysterics based on “The Arabs are coming! The Arabs are coming!” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398/112 "2006-02-22T17:35:25Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > As far as I’m concerned, the fact that two of the 9/11 hijackers were from UAE should nix the deal. …Get back to me when some Brits fly planes into our buildings. The imam of the [Brixton Mosque](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1729022.stm), which produced airplane shoe bomber Richard Reid, thinks there are 100 or more seriously-potential suicide bombers from there alone, possibly 1000. Good thing we’re getting P&O out of the US port business, then, huh? :wally ---
**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398/113 "2006-02-22T17:45:42Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > Get back to me when some Brits fly planes into our buildings. Well, they did burn the White House that one time. I don’t trust 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398/114 "2006-02-22T18:13:35Z")
> [@5que](#): > > Well, they did burn the White House that one time. I don’t trust 'em. Plus, they speak our language funny. And don’t even get me started on the way they spell. Are there so many u’s out there that they can just use them up willy-nilly? Let’s put an end to this use of the superfluous u. What if someday we are completely out of u’s because some pretentious sons of bitches used them all on words like “colour” and “favour”? We can’t take that chance. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398/115 "2006-02-22T18:14:10Z")
> [@5que](#): > > Well, they did burn the White House that one time. I don’t trust 'em. And they did this 4 years ago? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398/116 "2006-02-22T18:15:38Z")
> [@Stranger On A Train](#): > > On the basis of that logic, Timothy McVey and Ted Kozinski (among many others) should disqualify the US from managing its own ports. The actions of a few do not dictate national or corporate policy of an entire nation. So then on that logic why not let Iraq run them? Zarqawi is simply a bad apple. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398/117 "2006-02-22T18:22:17Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > Wow. That’s retarded. If you’re going to claim that the actions of a couple of dissidents should dictate overall policy toward a nation, then you have to apply that logic universally. An isolationist partisan or anti-technology insurgent with US citizenship could just as easily sabotage ports as a foreign national. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398/118 "2006-02-22T18:27:32Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > The imam of the > [Brixton Mosque](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1729022.stm), which produced airplane shoe bomber Richard Reid, thinks there are 100 or more seriously-potential suicide bombers from there alone, possibly 1000. Good thing we’re getting P&O out of the US port business, then, huh? :wally Well, the issue isn’t black and white, but here’s my thoughts. I don’t really like the words _thinks_ and _possibly_ in the above statement. We don’t _think_ or say it’s a _possibility_ that 2 of the 9/11 hijackers were from UAE, we know this to be fact. We can speculate where terrorist plotting can take place, but the guys from UAE made good on their intentions. Weren’t arms smuggled through UAE ports to NK and Iran as well? I totally agree that it can be a slippery slope, as we can find anti US radicals in almost every country. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398/119 "2006-02-22T18:35:07Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > So then on that logic why not let Iraq run them? Zarqawi is simply a bad apple. :rolleyes: The point was that the risk of having a company based in a foreign nation allowed to manage domestic facilities isn’t predicated on the actions of a couple of people who happen to hold citizenship; it should be based on the reliablity of that government, the specific company history, et cetera. Obviously, and for reasons going beyond security risk, we wouldn’t be contracting any Iraq-based corporation to manage US ports. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398/120 "2006-02-22T18:51:31Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > We don’t _think_ or say it’s a _possibility_ that 2 of the 9/11 hijackers were from UAE, we know this to be fact. We can speculate where terrorist plotting can take place, but the guys from UAE made good on their intentions. Weren’t arms smuggled through UAE ports to NK and Iran as well? > > I totally agree that it can be a slippery slope, as we can find anti US radicals in almost every country. It isn’t a slippery slope in terms of showing _government support_ for terrorism. The Dubai Ports company is run by the UAE _government_, not by its terrorists. There is exactly as much evidence for the UAE \*government \* supporting the 9/11 WTC attacks as there is for the British \*government \* supporting the American Airlines shoe-bomb attack. There is exactly as much evidence for the UAE government tolerating terrorism schools in its territory as there is for the British government doing so as well. I brought up the Brixton Mosque tongue-in-cheek, sure, but in fact it makes as much sense as your hysteria does. Go ahead and nitpick if you care to, but the fact that you’re reduced to nitpicking means you’re already wrong. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-shit-were-fucked-now/345398.md?page=7)