# Fuck The Government **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 3, 2001, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-government/96585 "2001-12-03T06:27:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-government/96585/21 "2001-12-03T23:20:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > \*\*Roughly 70,000 killed, 75,000 injured in Nagasaki. Certainly not millions. \*\* No, no, no…you have all been brainwashed by the American propaganda machine into believing these figures. Massive disinformation campaign. It was millions, trust me. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > **See, and that’s why Gore should have been president. It’s a lot more fun watching him try to dance.** Would he do the robot? ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-government/96585/22 "2001-12-03T23:35:18Z")
No, but you should see him pop-lock. It’s more fun than three drunk, blindfolded monkeys trying to hump each other. ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2001, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-government/96585/23 "2001-12-04T00:07:04Z")
Palve, biography: I am 16 years old and I live about 5 mi NE of the middle of nowhere. I am an atheist and a Marxist, so you’ll hear me rant a lot. You know, this got me thinking, with teenagers knowing everything and their parents knowing so little, why don’t we just let the teenagers run the world? It is amazing how we have all been indoctrinated to the point where only a teenager can save us. BTW, I have heard Osama can’t dance either. He studied in the UK back in the 70s and became extremely bitter when he realised he couldn’t score and now look at the consequences. If only some chick had given him a sympathy blow job maybe he would have turned into a decent person. ---
**Author:** ![Asylum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@Asylum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asylum)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2001, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-government/96585/24 "2001-12-04T01:43:26Z")
[nitpick] > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tranquilis \* > \*\*How on earth would Afganistan be an “important base”? It’s about as isolated as you can get, with no sea access, _surrounded by nuclear powers (China, India, Pakistan), the allies of nuclear powers, and large nominally hostile nations (Iran)._ It’s a sinkhole. > \*\* Italics mine. I agree with most everything you said but what I italicized strikes as me as _good_ reasons to establish a base. Not saying we’re trying to, and I can think of plenty of reasons why we wouldn’t want to, just that I don’t think those are it. [/nitpick] ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2001, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-government/96585/25 "2001-12-04T01:47:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by sailor \* > \*\* BTW, I have heard Osama can’t dance either. He studied in the UK back in the 70s and became extremely bitter when he realised he couldn’t score and now look at the consequences. If only some chick had given him a sympathy blow job maybe he would have turned into a decent person. \*\* Perfect! I think I’m going to start using this when people whine that I closed their threads. “Well, you know, if that chick had just given me one lousy blow-job back in college, your stupid question would still be at the top of GQ.” ---
**Author:** ![Billy\_Rubin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billy_rubin/32/3622_2.png) [@Billy\_Rubin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billy_Rubin)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2001, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-government/96585/26 "2001-12-04T02:04:57Z")
Nice idea, Manhattan, I think you should!!! Hell, nobody else takes credit for their actions, why should you? Oh, yeah, INTEGRITY. Bummer. If you could just get your integrity removed you’d be fine-hehe!! You know the real shame? Palve, or the Poster Formerly Known as Jelly Donut(until he was ridiculed for the name in a thread where he attacked “cannibals” for eating unhealthy meat) will grow up actually thinking he was attacked for speaking the “truth”. b ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@Turbo\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turbo_Dog)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2001, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-government/96585/27 "2001-12-04T02:32:38Z")
It’s cumbubbles like this that give teenagers a bad name these days. At least we got **Mercutio** to balance out this little clump of shit and prove that there IS hope for the future. ---
**Author:** ![Hemlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Hemlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hemlock)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2001, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-government/96585/28 "2001-12-04T02:41:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by sailor \* > \*\*BTW, I have heard Osama can’t dance either. He studied in the UK back in the 70s and became extremely bitter when he realised he couldn’t score and now look at the consequences. If only some chick had given him a sympathy blow job maybe he would have turned into a decent person. \*\* Urban legend… “Claim: The slighting comment of an American girl about the size of his penis gave rise to Osama bin Laden’s hatred of the USA. Status: False.” See “Small Things Amuse” at [http://www.snopes2.com/](http://www.snopes2.com/) ---
**Author:** ![\_Uigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/e9a140/32.png) [@\_Uigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_Uigi)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2001, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-government/96585/29 "2001-12-04T02:56:06Z")
I told ya’ll I smelled “red herring” in Palve (what kinda name is that?) posts; funny part is this fish smells more than vaguely like BS. ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2001, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-government/96585/30 "2001-12-04T03:12:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Asylum \* > \*\*[nitpick]… > I agree with most everything you said but what I italicized strikes as me as _good_ reasons to establish a base. > > Not saying we’re trying to, and I can think of plenty of reasons why we wouldn’t want to, just that I don’t think those are it. > [/nitpick] \*\* Perhaps. Perhaps not. If I were going to try and be “Globo-Cop”, I think I’d place my bases in locations where they weren’t effectively neutralized by bigger local players, or at least someplace where I had a chance in hell of supplying and defending if the local players got pissed. ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2001, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-government/96585/31 "2001-12-04T03:28:43Z")
The girl was about the size of his penis? So, does that mean, like, the girl was really small, or his penis was really big? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2001, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-government/96585/32 "2001-12-04T04:06:23Z")
You guys are missing the obvious subtext of **Palve** ’s little dissertation on Marxism in the modern world: _No one_ (except **Palve** ) is a _true_ Marxist. _All_ the others who claim to be Marxists have gotten it wrong! The same thing has happened with the current crisis in Afghanistan. The whole (cranky, contentious, fractious, and ever-disputational) **SDMB** has simply bought in to the propaganda, believing for some reason that after bin Laden financed much of the Taleban’s rise to power and the Taleban repaid him by refusing to even consider turning him over to _any_ country for trial, that the U.S. simply decided to “wage war” on the Taleban “scapegoats” who were innocently minding their own business (while shielding the leaders of the largest terrorist group currently operating in the world). **Palve** has brilliantly decided that it is all the fault of the U.S., anyway and is frustrated that no one can recognize the genius of **Palve** in bringing these observations to light. * * * Too bad, kid. I’ve seen a few of your rants. I can appreciate someone who marches to a different drummer, but your tirades are generally based on preconceived hatreds with an abscence of factual support. (I will note that you are entirely correct regarding the deplorable state of the teaching of history in U.S. high schools. However, your alternative sources generally seem to take the position that bad propaganda in opposition to U.S. mythology is a good counterweight to pro-U.S. propaganda and that facts have no place in the discussion.) ---
**Author:** ![Dub56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@Dub56](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dub56)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2001, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-government/96585/33 "2001-12-04T05:24:55Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Palve \* > ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz_\* . . . he forgot to add the part about the Illuminati, the Shaolin Fighting Tournament from Mortal Kombat, Paul Newman wasn’t really a pool hustler, the 1997 Marlins bought the World Series a la BlackSox, Jane Fonda was born a hermaphrodite . . . I love the ‘anti-propaganda’ propaganda - fighting hypocrisy on its own playing field. Now, if I can just find that flier the Moonies gave me on the way back from phys lecture, I’ll explain how Jesus _really_ works . . . [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-government/96585.md?page=1)