# Fuck The Middle East **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 30, 2004, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025 "2004-10-30T15:57:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025/21 "2004-10-30T20:33:03Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > “Kill them all: God will know his own” was interestingly originally concieved by Christian versus “heretic” Christian in southern France, which shows where this mindset will eventually lead. (Most revolutions end with the executions of their leaders, one might add as well.) It was still called a crusade, and entailled the same benefits (I’m refering to the spiritual ones, not to the land-grabing part) as the crusades in the Holy Land. This quote is generally attributed to the (infamous) military leader Simon de Montfort (though sometimes to the pope legate), when someone remembered him that there were also “good christians” living in the besieged town that just fell in his power. I think the OP will be proud of such a noble spiritual and intellectual lineage. ---
**Author:** ![Chimpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@Chimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimpy)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025/22 "2004-10-30T20:44:17Z")
I’m sick of him. Nuke his ass and take his cash. Kill’im and let his God sort him out. After that we should send all of our nuclear waist and garbage and make his house a large land fill…Done :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025/23 "2004-10-30T21:54:54Z")
Here’s another Middle-Easterner saying: bring it on, bitch. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025/24 "2004-10-30T21:58:59Z")
**Alessan:** _Here’s another Middle-Easterner saying: bring it on, bitch._ Shhhh! Do not needlessly provoke ignorant morons from countries with large standing armies and nuclear arsenals. They get up to enough trouble **without** needless provocation, as I expect the folks in your neck of the woods have noticed by now. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025/25 "2004-10-30T22:17:05Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > **Alessan:** _Here’s another Middle-Easterner saying: bring it on, bitch._ > > Shhhh! Do not needlessly provoke ignorant morons from countries with large standing armies and nuclear arsenals. > > They get up to enough trouble **without** needless provocation, as I expect the folks in your neck of the woods have noticed by now. The US needs neither large standing armies or nuclear weapons to destroy Israel. Simply removing our aid would be enough. ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025/26 "2004-10-30T22:19:16Z")
True dat. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025/27 "2004-10-30T22:21:49Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Shhhh! Do not needlessly provoke ignorant morons from countries with large standing armies and nuclear arsenals. You talkin’ to me? Ask yourself one question, “Do I feel lucky?” Go ahead, make my day. For those not familiar with U.S. movies, those are from Taxi Driver and two Dirty Harry movies. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025/28 "2004-10-30T22:30:02Z")
> [@Snaggletooth](#): > > alright good point. I’ll go back to the war room :smack: War Room or Bar Room? I’ve had moments like this, but I got over them. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025/29 "2004-10-30T22:42:29Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > What’s really sad is that people like the OP are the exact same people who speak in tones of puzzled outrage against the implication that we may not always be the good guys. How dare they! They must be prejudiced against America! Perhaps a little indiscriminate mass murder will change their minds! > > Nationalism and stupidity: a dangerous combination. Yes, because the alternative we are fighting against, is a whole lot better. Give me a break. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025/30 "2004-10-30T22:44:59Z")
> [@Aldebaran](#): > > It may come as a surprize, but I am sick of people like you. > > Well, I think it is only showing traditional Middle Eastern hopistality if I now invite you to come over here and try to kill me and my family. (About you trying to take my possessions we can talk later) > > Let me guess… You were reading some stories on the Crusades lately? > > In my view the USA is already busy for a long time to spread out in the ME in the form of what is named Depleted Uranium. > But now that I see that you are volunteering… Care to come and clean it up a bit because you shall need to make some room to come back later for spreading some more, no? > > Ideed. I’m done. > > See you when you try to kill me. You see? Always comes back to that Crusades crap. In my view it always takes an outside power to come in and have to sort all your asses out 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Chimpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@Chimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimpy)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025/31 "2004-10-30T22:55:55Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > You see? Always comes back to that Crusades crap. In my view it always takes an outside power to come in and have to sort all your asses out 😛 And an outside power to come in and fuck everything up. ---
**Author:** ![Leonard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a6a055/32.png) [@Leonard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leonard)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025/32 "2004-10-30T23:07:08Z")
> [@The Long Road](#): > > You are the kind of person that makes me sick. Let me guess, you think everything centers around Oprah’s ass, right? Maybe if you would put aside your Oprah-centric view of the world and realize not everyone agrees with you, you could make the world a better place. You need to realize that the talk show wars are long over and just because Oprah won that doesn’t make her the center of the Universe. > > If I hear that goddamn piece of shit jingoistic song, “I’m proud to be an Oprah fan” on the radio one more time, I am going to puke. Now Oprah’s ass??? Ok I give. Stick with the genocide topic. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025/33 "2004-10-30T23:09:36Z")
> [@The Long Road](#): > > The US needs neither large standing armies or nuclear weapons to destroy Israel. Simply removing our aid would be enough. That’s a matter of opinion. In your case, the opinion is wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025/34 "2004-10-30T23:19:29Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > You see? Always comes back to that Crusades crap. In my view it always takes an outside power to come in and have to sort all your asses out 😛 Seen the fact that you so openly support idiots like the OP there are a few remarks to make: 1. Start all over again with your up to now crappy reading on the Crusades. 2. Take the blindfold of lazyness from your eyes and figure out where and when and by whom Western invaders and occupyers were driven out again. Over and over again. 3. Don’t come crying when current invaders get killed by some of the angry invaded popularions. 4. Don’t come crying when citizens of nations that are actively involved in currently invading and occupying come under some sort of attack. Got it? ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025/35 "2004-10-30T23:26:59Z")
> [@The Long Road](#): > > The US needs neither large standing armies or nuclear weapons to destroy Israel. Simply removing our aid would be enough. Israel wouldn’t collapse just because the USA would suspend its aid. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025/36 "2004-10-30T23:39:09Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > Israel wouldn’t collapse just because the USA would suspend its aid. Aid includes many things, not just money. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025/37 "2004-10-30T23:39:32Z")
Does anybody else here find it amusing that both **Alessan** and **Aldebaran** are _both_ dumping on this **Long Road** fuckwit? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025/38 "2004-10-30T23:42:38Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > That’s a matter of opinion. > > In your case, the opinion is wrong. So you believe. Without the US’ money, votes on the Security Council or other support, how long would Israel last as a nation? How long before the rest of the world put a bitch-slap on Israel for its actions against the Palestinians? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025/39 "2004-10-30T23:51:04Z")
> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#): > > Does anybody else here find it amusing that both **Alessan** and **Aldebaran** are _both_ dumping on this **Long Road** fuckwit? 😃 Probably not since Aldebaran hasn’t said anything concerning me. As for anyone dumping on me, so fucking what? After phybre made you look like a fool and you ran here like a sorry bitch to whine, you’re the leader of the fuckwits. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025/40 "2004-10-30T23:53:48Z")
> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#): > > Does anybody else here find it amusing that both **Alessan** and **Aldebaran** are _both_ dumping on this **Long Road** fuckwit? 😃 I do! **The Long Road** - I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. I’d just like you to take a few facts into consideration: 1. Israel managed to win just fine in 1967 without U.S. support. 2. How would this “bitch-slap” happen? Would it be military? Even if, say, Europe had the will to attack Israel - and it doesn’t - they don’t have the capability. They’re not the U.S., and we’re not Iraq. 3. There are other nations that could support Israel besides the U.S. India, for instance. Or China. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-middle-east/272025.md?page=3)