# Fuck the Motherfucking Pope **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 20, 2010, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182 "2010-05-20T21:15:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182/1 "2010-05-20T21:15:26Z")
It’s just getting farcical now. The church fails to punish child rapists, or hand them over to authorities. The church systematically covers up for the rapists and moves them around so they have new victims. This goes on for _decades_. Victims come forward, the story gets some traction in the media, and becomes a bomb that keeps exploding. Church’s response is to whine that it is being _persecuted_. Vatican says the media is out to get them and is abusing this story to do so. One Vatican priest likens the outcry to anti-Semitism (please try not to die from irony here) and intimates that the church is a “victim of collective violence.” FINALLY Ratzi says the problem is one of sin in the church and, um, they’ll have to work on that. [Last November](http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126985072), a nun on the board of a Catholic hospital agreed to allow doctors to abort the 11-week fetus of a woman who would otherwise die (taking said fetus with her, by the way). Well, the Holy See jumped right on this situation and \*\*excommunicated \*\*her. (I’m not alone in noticing that the rapists and their protectors are all men, while this case involved a woman allowing another woman to be saved, am I?) Seriously, this is so insane and the motherfuckers involved are so removed from reality and ensconced in their own masturbatory power structure, I’m having trouble really believing this shit. Brain-damaged Martians with Aspergers would have a better feel for public sentiment and socially appropriate responses than these professional virgins. [Tim Minchin says it best.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHRDfut2Vx0) ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182/2 "2010-05-20T21:20:26Z")
I love that song. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182/3 "2010-05-20T21:24:14Z")
Viewed from an objective standpoint, the hierarchy of the RCC are a despicable bunch and their judgements bigoted and self-serving. Individual catholics may well be good people because most people are. The cardinals and the pope however…well, an organisation promotes people of a certain mindset who then are in a position to promote people of a certain mindset who then are…you get the picture. It will take a brave man to break that chain…Or a fucking great lawsuit! ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182/4 "2010-05-20T21:30:10Z")
Or perhaps Tim Minchin will topple the lot for us, his pope song kicks ass. (and slight hijack…but I think [this song](http://www.youtube.com/user/timminchin?blend=2&ob=1#p/u/8/frNpdG4F9mw) is as good as it gets, comedy song or otherwise) ---
**Author:** ![Cyningablod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc29f/32.png) [@Cyningablod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyningablod)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182/5 "2010-05-20T21:40:28Z")
(Agree w/OP)(67.53 x 10^13) Ratzi et al are a bunch of fucking looney pedo-protectors. One wishes they’d get sent to prison, where they’d be used as currency (among other things) by inmates who are decidedly unimpressed by their nice red uniforms. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182/6 "2010-05-20T21:42:24Z")
> [@](#): > > FINALLY Ratzi says the problem is one of sin in the church and, um, they’ll have to work on that. I noticed the language he used when he came out with that declaration. I couldn’t help but note that he never mentioned the damaged and destroyed lives of the victims. He cast the entire thing in terms of the church’s persecution. Motherfucker. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182/7 "2010-05-20T21:50:02Z")
If anyone has any interest in hearing the actual facts of canon law, please let me know. If the intent of this thread is the 34,651st Catholic bashing this year, please go right ahead. ---
**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182/8 "2010-05-20T21:57:10Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > If anyone has any interest in hearing the actual facts of canon law, please let me know. I’m really not, because in my experience “canon law” is merely a boot-strapping, question-begging, double-talking load of horse shit\* that’s as relevant to real life as two geeks arguing about the significance of midichlorians. \*my apologies to horse shit, which actually has beneficial uses ---
**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182/9 "2010-05-20T21:58:07Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > If anyone has any interest in hearing the actual facts of canon law, please let me know. > > If the intent of this thread is the 34,651st Catholic bashing this year, please go right ahead. You know what? I am sick of the complaints that being pissed off about the systematic coverup of criminal offenses against children by the hierarchy of the Catholic Church is Catholic-bashing. I suspect the OP feels the same. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182/10 "2010-05-20T21:59:02Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > If anyone has any interest in hearing the actual facts of canon law, please let me know. > > If the intent of this thread is the 34,651st Catholic bashing this year, please go right ahead. We will thanks. The head honchos are opposed to equal rights for women, homosexuals, non-Catholics and hold to a policy of secrecy, coercion and the proscription of condom use. That by itself is enough to warrant 34,652 threads at least. Or perhaps that isn’t what the heads of the Catholic church actually think? Wow! if you can tell me I’m wrong on that then great, I think we can make progress. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182/11 "2010-05-20T21:59:49Z")
> [@Eva\_Luna](#): > > You know what? I am sick of the complaints that being pissed off about the systematic coverup of criminal offenses against children by the hierarchy of the Catholic Church is Catholic-bashing. I suspect the OP feels the same. I understand the complaint in this thread to be about the automatic excommunication of a nun. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182/12 "2010-05-20T22:01:56Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I understand the complaint in this thread to be about the automatic excommunication of a nun. True…that is ONE complaint in the thread, not the only one though. Where to start? ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182/13 "2010-05-20T22:11:08Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > We will thanks. The head honchos are opposed to equal rights for women, homosexuals, non-Catholics and hold to a policy of secrecy, coercion and the proscription of condom use. That by itself is enough to warrant 34,652 threads at least. Well, to be fair, I’m frankly no more surprised with the Catholic heirarchy excluding non-Catholics as I am with, say, the exclusion of a feline from the Westminster Dog Show or guy waiters employed at Hooters. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182/14 "2010-05-20T22:11:34Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > If anyone has any interest in hearing the actual facts of canon law, please let me know. I am interested in hearing the actual facts of canon law, please. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182/15 "2010-05-20T22:16:37Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > If anyone has any interest in hearing the actual facts of canon law, please let me know. I’m very curious to hear what canon law has to say on both the nun issue, and the massive coverup that is ongoing. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182/16 "2010-05-20T22:17:01Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > Well, to be fair, I’m frankly no more surprised with the Catholic heirarchy excluding non-Catholics as I am with, say, the exclusion of a feline from the Westminster Dog Show or guy waiters employed at Hooters. Sure, I just think that Hooters hold no general disdain for the male gender, nor seek to have a say in their lives outside of their establishment. ---
**Author:** ![Cyningablod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc29f/32.png) [@Cyningablod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyningablod)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182/17 "2010-05-20T22:18:43Z")
**Bricker** ’s (apparent) attempt at generating interest in an institutional Catholic apologetic is reminiscent of a defense mounted by a (Catholic) former professor of mine, in response to the sort of criticisms mounted here by the OP. His argument? When you look at the statistics (number of pedophile priests vs. number of pedophile teachers/doctors/whatever), priests are actually pretty safe to have around children. Whether he was willfully ignoring the actual issues at hand, or was just fucking stupid, I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182/18 "2010-05-20T22:18:54Z")
I couldn’t find in the OP’s link anything at all about the Pope, much less the Holy See. I’m also coming up blank on a date that Bishop Olmstead declared her to excommunicated, or an assertion that the church took any affirmative disciplinary action at all against Sister McBride. For all I can tell from the text of the story (it’s not really practical for me to listen to the story as broadcast at the moment), Bishop Olmstead merely remarked that by her action, Sister McBride had effectively excommunicated herself. Although I suppose if that were actually the case, it would have been more accurate to have said that she apostasized herself. Anyway, speaking as an apostate my own self, if that is what she did, I can only say: “You go, girl.” And that she’s better off without them. ---
**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182/19 "2010-05-20T22:28:53Z")
If ever there was an organization that you’d think would fall under _respondeat superior_, it’s the Catholic Church! And really, is anyone going to “defend” the church by saying, “Nonononono, the \*people \*running the church aren’t evil and stupid. See, there are all these \*rules \*for how the organization runs, and they say if you even think inside your head that a single abortion could ever be OK, you’re automatically kicked out, but they don’t say much of anything about child rape and pimping, so the priests had discretion there.” ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182/20 "2010-05-20T22:48:13Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > If anyone has any interest in hearing the actual facts of canon law, please let me know. > > If the intent of this thread is the 34,651st Catholic bashing this year, please go right ahead. Yeah, the poor, poor church. At this point, **Bricker** , the church _deserves_ to be bashed. Not Catholic individuals, but the institution itself. And I say this as a lapsed Catholic. If there is a hell, Ratzinger and co. will end up there. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-motherfucking-pope/540182.md?page=2)