# Fuck the NRA **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 1, 2015, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184 "2015-10-01T23:02:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/81 "2015-10-03T01:02:13Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > Last I checked cocaine was completely illegal in every town and city in this country. Can you guess how easy it is to get an 8 ball (although probably crap) almost anywhere in this country? > > My nose would enlighten you on the whole “BANNING THINGS MAKES THINGS GO AWAY” mantra 😉 How many fully automatic firearms are there in circulation today? How many are used in gun crimes? Some bans really do work. Your nose smells poorly. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/82 "2015-10-03T01:03:14Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > We’d have to ban [3D printers](http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-22421185) as well … How do you “print” gunpowder? ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/83 "2015-10-03T01:11:57Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > How many fully automatic firearms are there in circulation today? How many are used in gun crimes? > > Some bans really do work. > > Your nose smells poorly. Have you seen the price of ammo lately? Going full auto puts a damper on the food stamps-for-40’s crowd. Do try to keep up… ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/84 "2015-10-03T01:14:05Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > So if the feds restricted guns like they do drugs then it would solve the gun problem? > > Well that makes sense… > :rolleyes: Right! No traffic law is going to stop me drving on the sidewalk at 50 mph RIGHT NOW. Clearly traffic laws are ineffective at saving lives and they restrict my liberty. ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/85 "2015-10-03T01:24:37Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Right! No traffic law is going to stop me drving on the sidewalk at 50 mph RIGHT NOW. Clearly traffic laws are ineffective at saving lives and they restrict my liberty. You’re right, it isn’t the law that’s stopping you from “drving” on sidewalks, it’s YOU. You should “drv” to the hood and tell those folks that shooting each other is against the law… ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/86 "2015-10-03T01:33:55Z")
> [@sciurophobic](#): > > I keep reading that most NRA members do support some measure of gun control. Why can’t they toss out their leadership and get someone who represents the rank and file’s real views? I could be wrong but the vast majority of gun owners support some level of gun control. The NRA’s membership constitutes around 5 percent of total gun owners which isn’t necessarily the same. I wouldn’t join an oranization I disagree with only to change its leadership. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/87 "2015-10-03T01:39:04Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > You’re right, it isn’t the law that’s stopping you from “drving” on sidewalks, it’s YOU. > > You should “drv” to the hood and tell those folks that shooting each other is against the law… The hood. It only happens there. It isnt your problem how those people act. White people dont suffer from gun violence. Yup. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/88 "2015-10-03T01:46:36Z")
I’m writing on a tiny screen and autoincorrect is even more of a bitch than you, canned mayham. ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/89 "2015-10-03T01:49:35Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > The hood. It only happens there. It isnt your problem how those people act. White people dont suffer from gun violence. > > Yup. Stats are racist, yo… ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/90 "2015-10-03T01:53:11Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > I’m writing on a tiny screen and autoincorrect is even more of a bitch than you, canned mayham. Well, instead of crying incoherently on the internet maybe you should use that time to work towards purchasing a bigger screen with post 1998 software to type your drivel. Just sayin… ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/91 "2015-10-03T01:53:27Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > So if the feds restricted guns like they do drugs then it would solve the gun problem? > > Well that makes sense… > :rolleyes: Reminds me of something I saw online a couple months ago: _“If we make guns illegal, then nobody will get shot anymore. That’s how we stopped everybody from doing drugs.”_ Under more rational circumstances I would have little problem with gun control. As it is I have a problem with it for three reasons: One, gun control is a slippery slope and foot in the door to outright banning of guns, which is the end game the left obviously hopes to accomplish. Two, and more importantly, estimates are that there are up to 350 million guns in this country and it would literally be impossible to account for and effectively police enough of them to effectively keep them out of the hands of criminals. Like the old cliche says, “Once guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns”. And third, should the time come when the left actually manages to accomplish the outlawing of gun ownership, it would make everyone sitting ducks for the criminals who have them. For the criminally inclined, robberies, car-jackings, muggings and home intrusions all become significantly less risky and therefore more tempting when you’re armed and you know the odds are that your intended victims are almost certain to be unarmed. Show me how you intend to keep existing firearms out of the hands of criminals and I’ll be happy to go along with attempts at gun control. But tell me that you hope to make it more difficult to for criminals to get guns by making it more difficult for law-abiding people to get them (or banning them outright) and I won’t even consider it. There are just too many millions of them floating around right now (and for that matter, importable from south of the border just like drugs) to ever keep them out of the hands of bad guys. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/92 "2015-10-03T01:53:47Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > Stats are racist, yo… Racists misconstrue stats, yo. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/93 "2015-10-03T01:58:19Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > Is banning all guns the answer? Sounds great in theory . . . . . . and has worked pretty well in those countries that have tried it. Perhaps because guns are more difficult to conceal than drugs. Perhaps because it de-escalates things for the criminal element – if neither your rivals nor your victims are armed, why do you need to be? ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/94 "2015-10-03T02:02:37Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > . . . and has worked pretty well in those countries that have tried it. Perhaps because guns are more difficult to conceal than drugs. Perhaps because it de-escalates things for the criminal element – if neither your rivals nor your victims are armed, why do you need to be? And yet the simple fact that more people are killed with fists in this country than guns escapes you. Maybe we should ban fists too while we’re at it… And feet… And blunt objects… And knives… And reason… ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/95 "2015-10-03T02:08:11Z")
Wait, I know!!! We should outlaw violence towards our fellow man! That will solve all our problems!!! If only there was a law against violently imposing our will on others… ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/96 "2015-10-03T02:12:35Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Racists misconstrue stats, yo. I’m still laughing too hard at this “gem” to come up with a witty reply. Apparently small screen equals small brain tonight… LMAO ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/97 "2015-10-03T02:13:29Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > Wait, I know!!! > > We should outlaw violence towards our fellow man! > > That will solve all our problems!!! > > If only there was a law against violently imposing our will on others… The Law of the Jungle is anathema to the essence of civilization. Your own hysterical analogies illustrate the weak foundation your arguments stand on. ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/98 "2015-10-03T02:21:30Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > The Law of the Jungle is anathema to the essence of civilization. Your own hysterical analogies illustrate the weak foundation your arguments stand on. Yeah, tell that to the dude without the .45 selling crack on Martin Luther King Blvd. I’m sure he’ll be real interested in your smug liberal survival theories… ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/99 "2015-10-03T02:23:47Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > And yet the simple fact that more people are killed with fists in this country than guns escapes you. 1. Cite? 2. Irrelevant if true. Banning guns would still significantly reduce the annual number of murders and accidental deaths. If people still die in fistfights, that’s a different problem. Just because there’s no vaccine for cancer doesn’t mean vaccination is useless. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/100 "2015-10-03T02:26:37Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > . . . and has worked pretty well in those countries that have tried it. Did those other countries that tried it start out having to get rid of 350 million guns as well as a significant drug and inner city crime driven population preying on each other and everyone else as well? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184.md?page=6)