# Fuck the NRA **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 1, 2015, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184 "2015-10-01T23:02:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/101 "2015-10-03T02:27:40Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > Yeah, tell that to the dude without the .45 selling crack on Martin Luther King Blvd. > > I’m sure he’ll be real interested in your smug liberal survival theories… I’m sure he’ll live longer than the guy **with** the .45 selling crack, etc. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/102 "2015-10-03T02:29:53Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > If only there was a law against violently imposing our will on others… There are several, and prisons are full of people who broke them. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/103 "2015-10-03T02:33:34Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > How do you “print” gunpowder? [Kitchen counter chemistry…](http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Gunpowder) ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/104 "2015-10-03T02:36:14Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > 1. Cite? > > 2. Irrelevant if true. Banning guns would still significantly reduce the annual number of murders and accidental deaths. If people still die in fistfights, that’s a different problem. Just because there’s no vaccine for cancer doesn’t mean vaccination is useless. > **[CBS News - Breaking news, 24/7 live streaming news & top stories](https://www.cbsnews.com/)** > > Watch CBS News live and get the latest, breaking news headlines of the day for national news and world news today. Sorry, ‘fists’ was a wrong term to use it seems. You mind providing a cite that says without guns less people would be killed? I’m gonna guess that if Shaqwan is pissed at Jamichael for fucking Laqwanduh, he’s gonna attempt to squash that beef even if guns never existed in the first place… But Fuck That, let’s blame an inanimate object!!! ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/105 "2015-10-03T03:04:43Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > [CBS News - Breaking news, 24/7 live streaming news & top stories](http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/01/03/fbi-hammers-clubs-kill-more-people-than-rifles-shotguns) > > Sorry, ‘fists’ was a wrong term to use it seems. > > You mind providing a cite that says without guns less people would be killed? > > I’m gonna guess that if Shaqwan is pissed at Jamichael for fucking Laqwanduh, he’s gonna attempt to squash that beef even if guns never existed in the first place… > > But Fuck That, let’s blame an inanimate object!!! I think we’re really getting the bottom of your belief system. Keep fucking that chicken. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/106 "2015-10-03T03:31:32Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > So THAT is the level of discourse and the depth of thought we’re dealing with here. It was clear to me that none of these folks actually thought about the issues, or whether we have some thinking to do about this issue. They were on a specific side, not of the issue but of the proverbial aisle, and that was it. The world is binary to them. I can’t begin to explain the degree of contempt I felt for their intellect… Fuck the NRA is such a higher level of discourse. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/107 "2015-10-03T03:44:37Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > And yet the simple fact that more people are killed with fists in this country than guns escapes you. > > Maybe we should ban fists too while we’re at it… > > And feet… > > And blunt objects… > > And knives… > > And reason… Not even close to true, though right-wing moron sites keep claiming it. [Here’s](https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl09.xls) the breakdown from the actual FBI. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/108 "2015-10-03T03:46:31Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > I’m gonna guess that if Shaqwan is pissed at Jamichael for fucking Laqwanduh, he’s gonna attempt to squash that beef even if guns never existed in the first place… Well, sure, but as I’m sure you’d be the first to agree, those people are uppity. My God, what a racist piece of shit you’re proving yourself to be. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/109 "2015-10-03T03:53:06Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > [CBS News - Breaking news, 24/7 live streaming news & top stories](http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/01/03/fbi-hammers-clubs-kill-more-people-than-rifles-shotguns) > > Sorry, ‘fists’ was a wrong term to use it seems. > > You mind providing a cite that says without guns less people would be killed? > > I’m gonna guess that if Shaqwan is pissed at Jamichael for fucking Laqwanduh, he’s gonna attempt to squash that beef even if guns never existed in the first place… > > But Fuck That, let’s blame an inanimate object!!! Jesus Christ, even the link in your cite (to the FBI’s stats for 2011) clearly states that of 12,664 murders, 8,583 were committed with firearms. Jesus - it’s like you’re reading headlines without checking facts! But that couldn’t be. ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/110 "2015-10-03T04:29:09Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Well, sure, but as I’m sure you’d be the first to agree, those people are uppity. > > My God, what a racist piece of shit you’re proving yourself to be. And then it goes right back down to the fact that stats are racist. Such a vicious cycle, wouldn’t you agree??? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/111 "2015-10-03T04:33:07Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > How do you “print” gunpowder? With the same technology – or considerably less technology – as was available to Gutenberg. Ink requires chemical feedstock, and so does gunpowder. ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/112 "2015-10-03T04:34:19Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Jesus Christ, even the link in your cite (to the FBI’s stats for 2011) clearly states that of 12,664 murders, 8,583 were committed with firearms. Jesus - it’s like you’re reading headlines without checking facts! But that couldn’t be. Alright, you got me on that one…My bad… I still say that if Jesus had a gun he’d still be alive… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/113 "2015-10-03T04:38:08Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > And then it goes right back down to the fact that stats are racist. > > Such a vicious cycle, wouldn’t you agree??? Sounds like you want to make an argument based on supported facts. Are we stopping you? ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/114 "2015-10-03T04:40:13Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > Alright, you got me on that one…My bad… > > I still say that if Jesus had a gun he’d still be alive… > > 😃 Dude. This is just stupid. ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/115 "2015-10-03T04:41:33Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Sounds like you want to make an argument based on supported facts. Are we stopping you? You mean like how the vast majority of shooting deaths in this country are committed by illegal gun owners and not NRA members? I’m down…let’s argue… ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/116 "2015-10-03T04:41:51Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > And then it goes right back down to the fact that stats are racist. What on Earth are you talking about? Seriously, what on Earth are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/117 "2015-10-03T04:43:23Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > Dude. This is just stupid. I screwed up on my cite and then admitted my mistake with a bit of juvenile humor thrown in for good measure. Lighten up, Francis… ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/118 "2015-10-03T04:47:51Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > Dude. This is just stupid. Yes, of course, it is stupid to suppose that Jesus would still be alive if Pilate had not crucified him. Of course he would not be still alive, he would have aged and died like all other mortal men, than which he was no more nor better. What is your point? ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/119 "2015-10-03T04:51:15Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > What on Earth are you talking about? Seriously, what on Earth are you talking about? [www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2014/09/19/the-racial-divide-in-americas-gun-deaths](http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2014/09/19/the-racial-divide-in-americas-gun-deaths) Oops… I wonder how many of those were LEGAL gun owners… I have a hunch, do you? ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184/120 "2015-10-03T04:52:04Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > You mean like how the vast majority of shooting deaths in this country are committed by illegal gun owners and not NRA members? > > I’m down…let’s argue… Yes, it appears we have found common ground. Crime is indeed more likely to be committed by prior criminals. Though I need binoculars now to see the moved goalposts in this discussion. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-nra/733184.md?page=7)