# Fuck These Sensitive Peace-Lovers, Fuck Them **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 21, 2003, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043 "2003-03-21T05:46:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/61 "2003-03-23T01:05:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fuji Kitakyusho \* > When a protestor blocks traffic by standing in the middle of the road, and you hit them with your car, why is it that you are culpable? They were the ones jaywalking… I bet they would move if you brought an armored bulldozer. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/62 "2003-03-23T09:18:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Estilicon \* > \*\*My problem with the op is his lack of humanity. Granted the bartender wasn’t exactly a pride to her profession but wars don’t happen every day (at least till now). My golden rule: special day, special rules. \*\* It didn’t sound as if she was genuinely moved by the situation. It sounded like manufactured anguish. Bought at Hot Topic, probably :p. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/63 "2003-03-23T14:56:33Z")
God forbid that a war should stand between an American and his beer. Losing track of the supreme priority of a beer is giving in to the Iraqi terrorists. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/64 "2003-03-23T15:28:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Muffin \* > \*\*God forbid that a war should stand between an American and his beer. Losing track of the supreme priority of a beer is giving in to the Iraqi terrorists. \*\* You misse the point. War did not stand between an American and his beer; an inattentive server did. Are you saying that a server chatting to her buddies may disregard her customers and neglect her duties if the topic of her chatter is the war? ---
**Author:** ![the\_great\_dalmuti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b2d939/32.png) [@the\_great\_dalmuti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_great_dalmuti)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/65 "2003-03-23T16:02:48Z")
I think **Keith Berry** ’s leaving out part of the story. C’mon, **Keith** , tell us about all the times you propositioned her and she turned you down. (And all this time you thought those liberal, hippy, artistic, vegetarian girls were easy . . .) My suggestion? Find a new bar. And getting laid may help some of your pent-up frustration, as well. ---
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/66 "2003-03-23T16:19:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Muffin \* > \*\*God forbid that a war should stand between an American and his beer. \*\* A dingy waitress did… ---
**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Road_Rash)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/67 "2003-03-23T18:30:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Muffin \* > \*\*God forbid that a war should stand between an American and his beer. Losing track of the supreme priority of a beer is giving in to the Iraqi terrorists. \*\* DAMN STRAIGHT!! Now if it was wine… ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/68 "2003-03-23T18:32:36Z")
If the rant had only been about a delinquent server, I would not have posted, for obviously a server should serve, but the rant was also against people on the left who want peace, disarmament, and third-world debt forgiveness. I have little patience for that sort of gross generalization and wide sweeping attack made my the OP, thus my hyperbolic and sarcastic response. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/69 "2003-03-23T19:19:04Z")
Oh, and I forgot to mention the crack against vegetarians. Where the heck did that spiiteful generalization come from? Is the OP only annoyed about lack of service, or is the OP using the lack of service to lash out a many positions and people? ---
**Author:** ![Spit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spit)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/70 "2003-03-23T23:02:05Z")
For gods sake…It’s a RANT. Why must everyone nitpick when it is obvious that people make these rants just to let off a little steam? ---
**Author:** ![Futile\_Gesture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/71 "2003-03-23T23:10:02Z")
**My** beliefs are right because **I** am right. **Your** beliefs are wrong because you don’t really believe them, they are just a posture. That includes your pacifism, your politics, your dietry habits, your friends, your job, your clothes and your taste in men. All just an affected sham. And don’t ask me how I know that. I just **do**. If you didn’t believe all that stuff just for show, then you’d naturally believe exactly what I believe. Because **I** am right. Another vote for the OP being an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Futile\_Gesture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/72 "2003-03-23T23:17:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Spit \* > \*\*Why must everyone nitpick when it is obvious that people make these rants just to let off a little steam? \*\* For the same reasons? ---
**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Road_Rash)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/73 "2003-03-23T23:35:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Muffin \* > \*\*Losing track of the supreme priority of a beer is giving in to the Iraqi terrorists. \*\* If everything went right, this is my new sig. Thanks Muffin ---
**Author:** ![raisinbread](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@raisinbread](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raisinbread)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/74 "2003-03-23T23:44:04Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Keith Berry \* > \*\* > But last night she revealed her true colors: another processed and mindless member of the Hip Leftist Culture, espousing vegatarianism, disarmarment, and Third World debt forgiveness simply because it’s the goddamn cool thing to say right now…I say now that these radical peace-nik leftist types are just as moronic in their blind adoption of “ideals” as the most deranged right-wing militia camped out in the backwoods and screaming about the federal government are._\* Take heart, sir. Give her five years, knocked up and divorced by that INTENSE ART MAJOR WHO WAS MAJORLY CUTE she’ll straighten up and fly right dumping her liberal claptrap which is solely for getting attention. Sadly, Ms. Barkeep won’t be a trim little filly anymore and will have grown out of being open to bringing her hot little art school friends into the sack with you. Worse, she might become born again. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/75 "2003-03-24T01:03:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Muffin \* > \*\*Is the OP only annoyed about lack of service, or is the OP using the lack of service to lash out a many positions and people? \*\* The OP was annoyed by someone who thought it was acceptable to spend **twenty minutes** ranting about the war instead of **doing her job**. It doesn’t matter what her position was. She would have been equally out of line if she’d shared the OP’s views. If she could show up to work, she could perform her duties. You don’t wave off a paying customer when you’re doing nothing except run your mouth—on any subject. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/76 "2003-03-24T01:26:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \* > \*\*The OP was annoyed by someone who thought it was acceptable to spend **twenty minutes** ranting about the war instead of **doing her job**. It doesn’t matter what her position was. She would have been equally out of line if she’d shared the OP’s views. > > If she could show up to work, she could perform her duties. You don’t wave off a paying customer when you’re doing nothing except run your mouth—on any subject. \*\* Exactly right. The issue is her indifference to her customers, not her views on the war. So why did the OP spend so much venom on bashing anti-war people? Just because the topic of her conversation happened to be the war, it does not follow that her unwillingness to work is a prodct of her anti-war beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/77 "2003-03-24T01:43:15Z")
I’m torn between the war coverage and the Oscars; the latter, because it promises to become a self-parodying, ultra-lefty train wreck of sanctimonious hand-wringing and haranguing. News flash, La-La Land: apparently, a large chemical weapons facility was just discovered in Iraq (or, more accurately, its discovery today was just released by the Pentagon to the news media). The interesting thing to me is, this only just became public knowledge _in the last hour_, an hour when Hollywood was in full pre-show preening-and-display mode, so presumably few of these would-be historians and security analysts haven’t heard about it. Let’s see how many celebs make a cynically dismissive reference to the allies’ stated aims of regime change and disarming Iraq of its WMD. It could probably be a pretty good drinking game, actually… ---
**Author:** ![Asylum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@Asylum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asylum)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/78 "2003-03-24T07:10:16Z")
Um, you do know that they haven’t found any chemical weapons plants yet, just suspected ones? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/79 "2003-03-24T08:38:40Z")
Am I the only one in this thread who caught the part where the OP described how he was _ **also opposed to the war?** _ ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/80 "2003-03-25T01:12:55Z")
Granted, they hadn’t found any chemical weapons in that facility. (Not that they don’t or didn’t exist, necessarily; they probably still exist and are already distributed to Republican Guard depots.) That facility sure seems suspicious, though. How many legit chemical plants are: 1) camoflaged, 2) surrounded by electrified fences, 3) run by a general, and 4) guarded by armed soldiers? There should be lots of more details and leads coming through soon. According to a report I heard, that general is said to be talking to his interrogators… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043.md?page=5)