# Fuck These Sensitive Peace-Lovers, Fuck Them

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 21, 2003, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043 "2003-03-21T05:46:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/81 "2003-03-25T02:07:08Z")

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If it looks like a duck and qacks like a duck. . . .

Time will tell whether or not there are WMD or production facitilites for the same, but I for one would not give Iraq the benefit of the doubt. in the mean time.

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**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/82 "2003-03-25T02:18:57Z")

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It gets worse. According to another recent report (found as a link in the Wall Street Journal site), some captured Iraqi soldiers have been found in possession of Cipro capsules.

Cipro is the antibiotic used to treat anthrax.

Since our nation’s finest had no choice but to get vaccinated for anthrax, an anthrax attack in Iraq would probably not harm our forces all that much. But since high-level Iraqi goverment officials have threatened the American populace with havoc and death, all but declaring their intent to wage acts of terrorist mayhem against us civvies, it probably wouldn’t be a bad idea for more of us stateside to get vaccinated.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/83 "2003-03-25T04:18:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Fuji Kitakyusho \*  
> \*\*Maybe it’s just a direct result of being a pragmatic atheist right-wing cynic with an axe to grind, but I have to concur.
> 
> All these protesters… don’t these people have to work?..
> 
> Personally, I am opposed to the unilateral action, but an empty beer glass seems like a far more pressing problem, given that you were in a bar at the time…
> 
> When a protestor blocks traffic by standing in the middle of the road, and you hit them with your car, why is it that you are culpable? They were the ones jaywalking…
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> -FK \*\*

Now this guy, I like.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/84 "2003-03-25T04:32:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Estilicon \*  
> \*\*My problem with the op is his lack of humanity. Granted the bartender wasn’t exactly a pride to her profession but wars don’t happen every day (at least till now). My golden rule: special day, special rules. \*\*

What’s the fucking matter? She was so misty she couldn’t see the beer tap? The ennui of the whole thing sapped her strength? The glasses reminded her too strongly of the dead eyes of the millions, nay _tens of millions_ of Iraqi civialians that are doubtless piled in the desert like obscene pyramids even as we speak?

Fuck that. It isn’t like she was operating heavy machinery. She can raise her voice and yap at her friends at the other end of the bar while she pours my fucking drink.

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Creant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@Miss\_Creant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Creant)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/85 "2003-03-25T04:47:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Keith Berry \*  
> \*\*…
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> I was in a local bar last night (in fact, the same bar where that employee death occured during a meet of Dopers from D.C. and Baltimore)
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> \*\*

EMPLOYEE DEATH?!? What? Cite please

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/86 "2003-03-25T05:09:10Z")

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Yea, the dishwasher keeled over and died right in front of us at the last Balto/DC AAA society meeting. Lucretia ( an EMT ) went to help, but he was dead of a heart attack. (I was there, is that enough of a cite? I don’t have a link to his obit or anything)

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**Author:** ![Mr.Mook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Mr.Mook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Mook)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/87 "2003-03-25T06:45:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> \*\*You misse the point. War did not stand between an American and his beer; an inattentive server did. Are you saying that a server chatting to her buddies may disregard her customers and neglect her duties if the topic of her chatter is the war? \*\*

Well, I think that misses the point. she wasn’t inattentive, she was taking it upon herself to punish the OP because she disagreed with his views, to the detriment of her employer and her job. She should have been fired.

To most of the people who live in my town, if you see any value at all in the operation you are a crazed wacko. To them there is _never_ a good reason to go to war. That position is hopelessly naive.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/88 "2003-03-25T12:59:47Z")

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Though my sentiments on war are generally with the bartenders’ she shoulda served the OP, though she needn’t have felt compelled to continue talking with him or displaying anything more than minimal politeness.

As for the political content, well, social conservatives in the South had a policy of not serving a whole class of people for years. So, get back to me when we have Jim Crow laws that discriminate against conservatives.

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**Author:** ![Blown\_Injected](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@Blown\_Injected](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blown_Injected)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/89 "2003-03-25T13:39:38Z")

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You should have just walked out after leaving one cent

Let all know the name of this POS bar

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**Author:** ![Asylum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@Asylum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asylum)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/90 "2003-03-25T19:14:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Blown & Injected \*  
> \*\*Let all know the name of this POS bar \*\*

If anyone is really curious it’s [The Ram’s Head](http://www.ramsheadtavern.com/savage/index.html), and shitty service to the OP not withstanding it’s an excellent bar/restaurant. I’ve been to two of the three Ram’s Head’s locations and have always received good to excellent service and their menu is top-notch. I suspect that this was one isolated incident and have full intentions of going back, as I suspect the OP in the long run will do as well.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/91 "2003-03-25T19:23:20Z")

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What type of sick fuck makes someone wait 20 minutes for a beer?!?

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/92 "2003-03-25T20:46:12Z")

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Gah, I read this thread and now I really need a beer.

Bartender? A pint of Sprecher Amber please.  
Bartender???  
Helllllooooo???  
DEAR GOD!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

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**Author:** ![Spit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spit)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/93 "2003-03-25T21:07:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Miss Creant \*  
> \*\*EMPLOYEE DEATH?!? What? Cite please \*\*

What can you say? Dopers party hard dude. 😃

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**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Road_Rash)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/94 "2003-03-25T23:33:09Z")

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After looking at the place on the website, It occurred to me that I have been in similar situations at bars before, where the bartender is simply not paying attention.

The place looks quite large. In similar situations, I flagged down a waitress. I then would explain my situation (politely, you want her on your side), that I realllllly would love a beer, and a good tip would be in order. The odds are good that the waitstaff may be experiencing issues and kick her in the ass to get back to work. This kind of issue is worth getting some deals in the future.

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**Author:** ![Blown\_Injected](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@Blown\_Injected](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blown_Injected)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/95 "2003-04-02T04:23:31Z")

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Ah Ha!!! The Ram’s Head!

Those are the jackasses that would not serve me more than three of thier winter brews. The fuck wads claim that they may only serve three and only in small glasses because it is a powerful special beer.

Of course they will keep bringing shots of bourbon all night - or any other non-regulated drink :smack:

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**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/96 "2003-04-02T05:42:41Z")

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Am I the only one who’s still laughing at this?

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> I bet they would move if you brought an armored bulldozer.

Does that make me a bad person? 😉

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/97 "2003-04-02T15:18:29Z")

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Rule #1 of Good Bartending: don’t get too involved in debates on religion and politics with your customers. Be professional, and neutral. Be fucking Switzerland.

The waitress was out of line. She should have served the OP his beer instead of debating the war with her friends or other customers, regardless of her personal view on the war.

The OP is slightly out of line in his characterisation of the waitress, though. All that talk of vegetarian peace loving left-wing trendy anti-war protestors really didn’t aid his rant.

And Techchick? Put the bottle down, for God’s sake.

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**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/98 "2003-04-02T16:43:47Z")

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**We need the Swiss smiley.** Arnold said it, I believe it.

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**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/99 "2003-04-02T18:04:16Z")

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I dunno, maybe **Keith Berry** was ordering _Shock & Awe on the rocks?_

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**Author:** ![Blown\_Injected](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@Blown\_Injected](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blown_Injected)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-these-sensitive-peace-lovers-fuck-them/163043/100 "2003-04-02T18:22:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Coldfire \*  
> \*\*The OP is slightly out of line in his characterisation of the waitress, though. All that talk of vegetarian peace loving left-wing trendy anti-war protestors really didn’t aid his rant.
> 
> And Techchick? Put the bottle down, for God’s sake. \*\*

perhaps only due to the belief that stereotyping is improper generalizing, but if you show me a “vegetarian peace loving left-wing trendy anti-war protesters” I would bet I could accurately tell you lots about that person - don’t mean I’d be right every time, but enough that if money were on it and we had just 50 samples I would be richer

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