# Fuck this guy (Santa Barbara shooter) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 24, 2014, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182 "2014-05-24T14:36:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/1 "2014-05-24T14:36:04Z")
[Santa Barbara shooter video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbv5Vpa-B-0) I’m all for compassion and understanding. But I don’t have any for him. Fuck him and his smarmy face. And fuck all the guys who are taking inspiration from this. ---
**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/2 "2014-05-24T14:55:42Z")
That was chilling to watch. I don’t know what was going on inside that guy’s head… ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/3 "2014-05-24T14:56:31Z")
I don’t know why you’re so negative towards him. He seems like a nice guy. I’m sure he’d condescendingly tell you himself over and over again if he wasn’t, y’know, dead. ---
**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/4 "2014-05-24T15:09:51Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > I don’t know why you’re so negative towards him. He seems like a nice guy. I’m sure he’d condescendingly tell you himself over and over again if he wasn’t, y’know, dead. Yeah, ‘Nice Guy’ goes postal… ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/5 "2014-05-24T15:13:01Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > Fuck him and his smarmy face. Oh sure… now you wanna fuck him. Where were you 2 days ago, huh? This whole tragedy could have been avoided… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/6 "2014-05-24T15:26:04Z")
wow… RIP kids…just heard this, its crosstown from me. My first apartment away from home. 1972 Isla Vista…times have changed it seems. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/7 "2014-05-24T16:07:18Z")
Elliot, kid, you’re stuck in the closet. Go find a nice boy. If I’m wrong, then just yell at your mom on the phone. Mental idiot. ETA: Wait, this really happened on the streets? Well, what happened to heroically entering the best sorority house?? What an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/8 "2014-05-24T16:07:57Z")
I’d like my seven minutes back, please. As an evil manifesto, I’d give it a two. Evil laugh, a minus seven. What a fucking asshole. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/9 "2014-05-24T16:16:59Z")
Sick fuck. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/10 "2014-05-24T16:55:08Z")
This can’t be real life. If I didn’t know anything about this guy and his actions, I would have thought he was a parodying the Nice Guy stereotype. Except doing a bad job of it because of ham-fisted acting. I think it’s sad that these mass shooters equate power with violence, sexual prowess, and a complete disregard for human life. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/11 "2014-05-24T17:05:44Z")
Double post ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/12 "2014-05-24T17:06:54Z")
> [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](#): > > wow… RIP kids…just heard this, its crosstown from me. My first apartment away from home. 1972 Isla Vista…times have changed it seems. Right. In your day they fire bombed a bank and killed an innocent clerk who just happened to show up at work. This was a mentally ill sick fuck with rich indulgent parents. Just like the other mentally ill sick fuck with rich indulgent parents who purposefully plowed his car into a crowd twelve years ago on those same streets. People knew about this kid for a while. Three days ago his “manifesto” was posted on reddit and people were joking about how he was going to do something crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/13 "2014-05-24T17:32:36Z")
Nice guys turn the gun on themselves last. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/14 "2014-05-24T17:35:27Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > People knew about this kid for a while. Three days ago his “manifesto” was posted on reddit and people were joking about how he was going to do something crazy. Wait, so you’re telling me there’s a chance this fucknut released an \*ironic \*crazy person manifesto before going on his actual rampage ? 'Cause I’m telling you right now, this shit would be too post-modern for me, man. OTOH he’s pretty much how I picture the average, dead earnest MRA redditor so I’m torn on the ironic angle. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/15 "2014-05-24T17:37:13Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > And fuck all the guys who are taking inspiration from this. Like who? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/16 "2014-05-24T17:52:10Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Wait, so you’re telling me there’s a chance this fucknut released an \*ironic \*crazy person manifesto before going on his actual rampage ? 'Cause I’m telling you right now, this shit would be too post-modern for me, man. > > OTOH he’s pretty much how I picture the average, dead earnest MRA redditor so I’m torn on the ironic angle. He posted a youtube video saying what he planned to do and why which is linked in the OP. Someone else linked to that video on reddit. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/17 "2014-05-24T17:55:15Z")
Oh, OK, he didn’t post it on Reddit himself. Well, there’s a small blessing there, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/18 "2014-05-24T17:59:03Z")
The sense of entitlement was strong with that one… all about what everyone owed him and what all he deserved. I dare say that, in the end, he did indeed get what he deserved. Sick fuck is right. ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/19 "2014-05-24T18:04:59Z")
YouTube yanked the video. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/20 "2014-05-24T18:15:56Z")
Messed up thing is that he was physically attractive and his father is a successful [Hollywood director](http://variety.com/interstitial/?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fvariety.com%2F2014%2Ffilm%2Fnews%2Fucsb-shooting-suspect-may-be-son-of-hunger-games-assistant-director-1201191271%2F). With that going for him, I find it hard to believe that _no_ girls were open to dating him. It defies belief. So either he was overly fixated on unavailable girls at the top of the social totem pole (like sorority girls) to the exclusion of every other female in the universe, or his personality was just that unattractive. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182.md?page=2)