# Fuck this guy (Santa Barbara shooter) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 24, 2014, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182 "2014-05-24T14:36:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/21 "2014-05-24T18:19:53Z")
Or he just gave off that creepy psycho killer vibe. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/22 "2014-05-24T18:42:47Z")
Since the video isn’t there anymore, anyone care to describe it, or offer other links? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/23 "2014-05-24T18:48:33Z")
Smarmy guy says he’s not getting any, doesn’t understand why college girls won’t put out with him when they go for “ignorant brutes”, pledges to punish those stuck-up blondes and everyone else. Tune the self-centered sense of entitlement to 11 in your head, add a few cracked-in-the-head bouts of the smirked giggles and you’ve more or less got it. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/24 "2014-05-24T18:49:48Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Since the video isn’t there anymore, anyone care to describe it, or offer other links? It’s up on [LiveLeak.](http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4fd_1400921453) ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/25 "2014-05-24T18:50:00Z")
It was about six minutes long. He was sitting in his very expensive BMW. He said that this would be his final video and that he would be taking revenge. He described himself as 22 years old and never even kissed a woman. He was bitter because college was supposed to be about partying and getting sex and he was denied that. He claimed that he was going to go into a sorority house and shoot the place up (he didn’t actually do this part). What he did was a slow drive by. Police were on the scene in a few minutes. This isn’t surprising because there is a sheriff’s substation right there. IV is a very densely packed college town. There would have been many hundreds of students out having fun at the start of a three day weekend. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/26 "2014-05-24T19:00:46Z")
So all the guy needed was to get laid? Careful next time you say no, girls, you may be creating a serial killer! Seriously though, where the hell was this guy’s head at? He’s reasonably good-looking, he has expensive wheels, he’s young, he’s healthy and he’s living in fucking California! And he’s still bitching about his life? If I were a god I would have zapped him in to the body of a dirt-poor peasant in Bangla Desh or the Congo. Then let him whine about what a crock his life is. Fucking loser didn’t deserve to be born in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/27 "2014-05-24T19:02:47Z")
> [@Kenm](#): > > YouTube yanked the video. Just as well. I don’t really care to see or read the manifesto of a murdering shitbag. Not Hitler’s, not Kaczynski’s, not McVeigh’s, and definitely not some sad random dork’s. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/28 "2014-05-24T19:16:08Z")
Nothing _ever_ gets yanked from the internet. But I agree with **Vinyl Turnip**. I managed to watch for about a minute then had to stop it. Why? Sheer boredom. People like this are so fucking boring. Even when they think they’re being creepy or menacing or sinister or whatever they always come across boring and completely uninteresting. ---
**Author:** ![cococ173](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ab097/32.png) [@cococ173](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cococ173)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/29 "2014-05-24T19:20:02Z")
What occurs to me, after watching the video, is that perhaps no one took him seriously because he seemed too ‘mousy’ to be violent. Ironic that he was complaining about being treated like a mouse. He had a disconnect between his words and emotions in the video. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/30 "2014-05-24T19:21:16Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > So all the guy needed was to get laid? Careful next time you say no, girls, you may be creating a serial killer! What’s really sad is there’s probably several women who are thinking that right now. Wish there was a way to convince them it’s not their fault. ☹ > [@aldiboronti](#): > > Nothing _ever_ gets yanked from the internet. There’s numerous copies of the manifesto posted to YouTube as we speak. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/31 "2014-05-24T19:25:00Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > So all the guy needed was to get laid? Careful next time you say no, girls, you may be creating a serial killer! > > Seriously though, where the hell was this guy’s head at? He’s reasonably good-looking, he has expensive wheels, he’s young, he’s healthy and he’s living in fucking California! And he’s still bitching about his life? Well, all wry-sarcasm-as-a-coping-mechanism-for-the-utter-depression-that-is-the-human-experience aside, there’s a part of me that kinda gets him. I never was a narcissistic entitled cunt… OK, rewind, I never was _that much_ of a narcissistic entitled cunt, I hope, and my crazy stayed in relative check, but the whole “society’s been telling me all my life that I should be getting crazy pussy right now and I don’t, WTF ?” shtick of his ? I can relate. I mean, I personally turned that shit inwards (i.e. “I’m not getting any, something is wrong with _me_”), which turned me into a depressive suicidal overly dramatic person, which ironically eventually got me some. I do not advocate turning it outwards to “what is wrong with society”, and I certainly don’t advocate “it’s all you cunts’ fault !”… Buuut that social pressure and stigma is not innocent. This was a crazy guy who reacted to a social force in a crazy way, but that doesn’t mean the underlying societal paradigm more-educated-than-I-am something something he was struggling with is all hunky dory. Again, don’t get me wrong : his rampage and the whole tragedy is his fault. 98% his fault. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/32 "2014-05-24T19:30:41Z")
Wow. What girl wouldn’t want to sleep with the guy who will kill them if they say no? ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/33 "2014-05-24T19:32:55Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Well, all wry-sarcasm-as-a-coping-mechanism-for-the-utter-depression-that-is-the-human-experience aside, there’s a part of me that kinda gets him. I never was a narcissistic entitled cunt… OK, rewind, I never was _that much_ of a narcissistic entitled cunt, I hope, and my crazy stayed in relative check, but the whole “society’s been telling me all my life that I should be getting crazy pussy right now and I don’t, WTF ?” shtick of his ? I can relate. Yeah, I see it too. On paper at least, the kid should have been swimming in popularity. To figure out why he wasn’t popular, he’d have to consider the role of his personality. Maybe that was too much for him to handle due to mental instability. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/34 "2014-05-24T19:41:29Z")
He was probably one of those types that as soon as a poor woman showed a little bit of interest or even kindness, he was suddenly sending texts every fifteen minutes and posting weird shit all over their facebook. ---
**Author:** ![fuchsiagroan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9de0a6/32.png) [@fuchsiagroan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuchsiagroan)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/35 "2014-05-24T19:44:33Z")
It seems he had a lot of issues about himself, self hate and racism… Would one or two sexual encounters have been enough? If they were lined up around the.block and the world bowed down… Maybe. But a tragic waste of living one’s own life to please an irrational fantasy. I don’t think society hurt him any more than it did anyone else. Women who are “sluts”, not good enough or a “ten”. Or anyone else not pedestaled every day of their lives (and as a rich guy he had to have been put above many). ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/36 "2014-05-24T20:00:22Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Again, don’t get me wrong : his rampage and the whole tragedy is his fault. 98% his fault. Hey asshole, I’d love to hear your reasoning behind that remaining 2%. (Got any YouTube videos to share with us?) ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/37 "2014-05-24T20:03:55Z")
There are now reports that he family was alarmed about some of his earlier youtube videos and contacted local authorities who interviewed him and didn’t find a threat mainly because they didn’t think that he had access to guns. His face book page is very sad. Almost all of his pictures are of him or his car. A couple of him with his Dad and step-Mom at the Hunger Games premier (his dad was involved with the production). No pictures of friends at all. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/38 "2014-05-24T20:11:41Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > Hey asshole, I’d love to hear your reasoning behind that remaining 2%. (Got any YouTube videos to share with us?) Ironically, he probably pinned 2% on the taunting bullies. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/39 "2014-05-24T20:13:19Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > Hey asshole, I’d love to hear your reasoning behind that remaining 2%. (Got any YouTube videos to share with us?) How do you feel about cacti, sexual attraction-wise ? ---
**Author:** ![kstarnes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4da419/32.png) [@kstarnes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kstarnes)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/40 "2014-05-24T20:14:33Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > Messed up thing is that he was physically attractive and his father is a successful [Hollywood director](http://variety.com/interstitial/?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fvariety.com%2F2014%2Ffilm%2Fnews%2Fucsb-shooting-suspect-may-be-son-of-hunger-games-assistant-director-1201191271%2F). > > With that going for him, I find it hard to believe that _no_ girls were open to dating him. It defies belief. So either he was overly fixated on unavailable girls at the top of the social totem pole (like sorority girls) to the exclusion of every other female in the universe, or his personality was just that unattractive. Apparently, he aimed real high, he wanted a buxom blonde. He could have settled for an Asian girl but he was too narcissistic and thought too much of himself. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182.md?page=3)