# Fuck this guy (Santa Barbara shooter) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 24, 2014, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182 "2014-05-24T14:36:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/41 "2014-05-24T20:18:32Z")
All that money and whatever couldn’t get him a girlfriend. Just goes to show personality goes a long long way. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/42 "2014-05-24T20:24:28Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Ironically, he probably pinned 2% on the taunting bullies. Where did this guy ever say he was bullied? His “video manifesto” said nothing about bullies, only that he wasn’t gettin’ any action. > [@kstarnes](#): > > Apparently, he aimed real high, he wanted a buxom blonde. He could have settled for an Asian girl but he was too narcissistic and thought too much of himself. You see, like so many others, that’s the mistake I made in college. Looking back, I could’ve gotten a lot more pussy had I paid attention to the “plain jane” girls who obviously liked me, instead of setting my sights on the rich, pretty, debutante chicks who wouldn’t look twice at someone from my social station. And yet, even a loser like me managed to score a pity fuck now and then. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/43 "2014-05-24T20:29:25Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Ironically, he probably pinned 2% on the taunting bullies. Thank you for getting it. Though it’s not even bullies, not really. I mean, yeah, this shit drives bullies too, or rather people who are prone to bullying behaviours seize upon it because it’s handy, and easy, and society-approved. And that is a thing. But it’s really a wider cultural issue. Most people have, at one point or another, used “I bet you never even touched a girl/guy !” or similar as derogatives. I sure as hell have. Most people also assume that rich, purdy moufed, California trust fund kids get all kinds of trim regular folks can’t even imagine. And look down on those who have _so many_ “advantages” and can’t even make 'em work. But the whole “sex as validation” concept is kind of completely fucked up, when you think about it. Isn’t it ? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/44 "2014-05-24T20:32:27Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > You see, like so many others, that’s the mistake I made in college. Looking back, I could’ve gotten a lot more pussy had I paid attention to the “plain jane” girls who obviously liked me, instead of setting my sights on the rich, pretty, debutante chicks who wouldn’t look twice at someone from my social station. And yet, even a loser like me managed to score a pity fuck now and then. Classy. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/45 "2014-05-24T20:46:17Z")
> [@kstarnes](#): > > Apparently, he aimed real high, he wanted a buxom blonde. He could have settled for an Asian girl but he was too narcissistic and thought too much of himself. “He could have settled for an Asian girl.”:dubious: How enlightened of you. As for the kid, I suspect the reason he couldn’t get laid or even kissed wasn’t because the girls were stuck up bitches but more Lille because they were fairly good judges of character. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/46 "2014-05-24T20:51:22Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Thank you for getting it. > > Though it’s not even bullies, not really. I mean, yeah, this shit drives bullies too, or rather people who are prone to bullying behaviours seize upon it because it’s handy, and easy, and society-approved. And that is a thing. Again, please provide a cite demonstrating that _this particular individual_ ever claimed to have been bullied. And FYI, if every victim of bullying went on a murderous rampage, there’d be no humans left in this world. (Not that that’s necessarily a bad thing…) ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/47 "2014-05-24T20:51:23Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > but more likely [NdQ correction mine] because they were fairly good judges of character. Yes ! Exactly ! Stuck up bitches ! 🙂 :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/48 "2014-05-24T20:54:21Z")
Recent party enforcement troubles (drunken semi-riots) have increased the sheriffs presence, so they were able to get there quickly and perhaps limit the death toll. I arrived in Isla Vista in 73, I guess, a year after the bank burning. Population density there was extremely high then and is worse now. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/49 "2014-05-24T20:55:29Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > Looking back, I could’ve gotten a lot more pussy had I paid attention to the “plain jane” girls who obviously liked me, instead of setting my sights on the rich, pretty, debutante chicks who wouldn’t look twice at someone from my social station. And yet, even a loser like me managed to score a pity fuck now and then. Ditto here. I also used to HATE it when girls I swore I loved went for the alpha-male type. If this kid had just waited he would’ve learned-- the girls who go for the meatheads don’t turn out happy all the time either. One girl I was dating dumped me all of a sudden-- why, I never learned-- and went out with another guy she dated for two years until she got pregnant. The new guy basically disappeared the next day. No calls, no child support. He wanted DNA tests, court hearings, all kids of shit. Happily, my ex found another guy, married him, became her little girl’s stepdad and they recently had another baby. 🙂 At 22, how in the hell can anyone think they’re so entitled?? This Elliot kid never really got it. If he’s so affluent, why did he never call a hooker? I’ve been to Santa Barbara, home of the Sugar Daddy. They’re around, trust me. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/50 "2014-05-24T20:57:15Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/51 "2014-05-24T20:57:43Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > Again, please provide a cite demonstrating that _this particular individual_ ever claimed to have been bullied. Please provide a cite demonstrating that I ever claimed he was. > [@](#): > > And FYI, if every victim of bullying went on a murderous rampage, there’d be no humans left in this world. (Not that that’s necessarily a bad thing…) Which makes bullying fine, am I right ? I mean, it doesn’t always or even \*often \*lead to murderous rampages, so \*\*\*pfff \*\*\*what am I being all introspective and deconstructive about ? Fuck me, right ? You never answered about the cactus thing, BTW. Seriously, how do you feel about them ? Would you seriously mind fucking one right now ? For me ? Come _on_. It’s for a good cause. You’d get hella pity fucks repping for the cactus loving crowd, too, I swear. ---
**Author:** ![fuchsiagroan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9de0a6/32.png) [@fuchsiagroan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuchsiagroan)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/52 "2014-05-24T21:00:58Z")
But he was the alpha male meathead. If society is to blame then would one be a slobbering yes man to the next entitled d bag? If anyone is owed their fantasy life… ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/53 "2014-05-24T21:02:27Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > There are now reports that he family was alarmed about some of his earlier youtube videos and contacted local authorities . . . > > His face book page is very sad. Almost all of his pictures are of him or his car . . . [It really _is_ sad](https://www.facebook.com/elliot.rodger.3). One friend might have saved seven lives and decades of heartbreak. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/54 "2014-05-24T21:05:20Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Ditto here. I also used to HATE it when girls I swore I loved went for the alpha-male type. If this kid had just waited he would’ve learned-- the girls who go for the meatheads don’t turn out happy all the time either. One girl I was dating dumped me all of a sudden-- why, I never learned-- and went out with another guy she dated for two years until she got pregnant. The new guy basically disappeared the next day. No calls, no child support. He wanted DNA tests, court hearings, all kids of shit. Happily, my ex found another guy, married him, became her little girl’s stepdad and they recently had another baby. 🙂 > > At 22, how in the hell can anyone think they’re so entitled?? This Elliot kid never really got it. If he’s so affluent, why did he never call a hooker? I’ve been to Santa Barbara, home of the Sugar Daddy. They’re around, trust me. Oh, hey. Here’s your 2% membership card, brah. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![fuchsiagroan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9de0a6/32.png) [@fuchsiagroan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuchsiagroan)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/55 "2014-05-24T21:05:54Z")
[http://jezebel.com/dating-coach-ucsb-shooting-could-have-been-avoided-wit-1581118470](http://jezebel.com/dating-coach-ucsb-shooting-could-have-been-avoided-wit-1581118470) Ugggh. Was he the kind of guy a friend could reach? I’ve been reading of his aggression about men lesser than him who had chicks. Sounds like he just wanted to be on the top. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/56 "2014-05-24T21:06:17Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > [It really _is_ sad](https://www.facebook.com/elliot.rodger.3). One friend might have saved seven lives and decades of heartbreak. Huh. Not one post to anyone else wishing a happy birthday, merry christmas, congratulations… Did no one know this kid?? ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/57 "2014-05-24T21:07:03Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Which makes bullying fine, am I right ? Not a bit of it. But it does mean that YOU need to come to terms with your own problems and past experiences, instead of crying in your beer about how the world’s such a mean and nasty place, while secretly celebrating the actions of people who do things you’re too chickenshit to do on your own. > [@Kobal2](#): > > You never answered about the cactus thing, BTW. Seriously, how do you feel about them ? Sorry to disappoint you, but I [just don’t swing that way.](http://www.funnyjunk.com/channel/old-funnyjunk/Cactus+Penis/DosbGQb/) 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/58 "2014-05-24T21:12:11Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > Not a bit of it. But it does mean that YOU need to come to terms with your own problems and past experiences, instead of crying in your beer about how the world’s such a mean and nasty place, while secretly celebrating the actions of people who do things you’re too chickenshit to do on your own. … Yes. Yes, you pegged me, dead on. I am celebrating right now. I am naked, slathered in olive oil and peanut butter. I am setting fire to piñatas made out of purple liquorice because some MRA fucknut blew up seven random people. Fuck all of y’all judgemental pricks, _that_’s how you celebrate. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/59 "2014-05-24T21:15:42Z")
“I’m the perfect guy … I’m the supreme gentleman.” — What a little shit. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182/60 "2014-05-24T21:19:35Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > With that going for him, I find it hard to believe that _no_ girls were open to dating him. It defies belief. . . . Would _ **you** _ want to go on a date and and have to listen to a bad imitation of a Bond movie villain all night? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-guy-santa-barbara-shooter/689182.md?page=4)