# Fuck this weeks Airbnb shitheads

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 10, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007 "2019-09-10T20:37:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007/1 "2019-09-10T20:37:15Z")

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Have some respect assholes, fuck your karaoke, fuck your loud ass conversations, fuck your corn hole drama, fuck your bloated stink dogs wandering at will, fuck your boat stereo at 3 AM, fuck your bitches hi pitched giggles, fuck your 6 trucks parked in the street. Fuck the owners who fucked us over!

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007/2 "2019-09-10T21:03:23Z")

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We are referring to the game with the bean bags, I hope?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007/3 "2019-09-10T22:21:46Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> We are referring to the game with the bean bags, I hope?

_With beanbags_? Now, that’s kinky. And it’s got to hurt, no doubt.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007/4 "2019-09-10T22:40:27Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> _With beanbags_? Now, that’s kinky. And it’s got to hurt, no doubt.

You’re not doing it right.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007/5 "2019-09-10T23:24:22Z")

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the entire concept of Airbnb is squicky and creeps me the fuck out. Who in their right mind would want to rent their home out to randos? and who in the hell is comfortable invading someone else’s home?

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007/6 "2019-09-10T23:31:43Z")

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I work for a county that has 4 world class ski resorts. We have a shit ton of short term rentals. We have actually hired a nation wide company that helps handle this shit. People that have STR’s have to register and pay an additional tax, they have to be in compliance with occupancy and parking codes as well. Trash also seems to be a big problem when you cram too many people in a place for a vacation weekend. We just started doing this. The GIS department I work for feeds them data as far as address locations and such.

On the other hand, if the renters don’t get what they expect, they have somebody to call to lodge a complaint, and get service. The owners of these units usually live hundreds if not thousands of miles away.

I think a lot of communities are having problems with this. We’ll see how it goes.

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007/7 "2019-09-11T00:08:05Z")

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It’s the free market, you communists!

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007/8 "2019-09-11T00:32:18Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> _With beanbags_? Now, that’s kinky. And it’s got to hurt, no doubt.

Just to be clear, I was referring to this part:

> [@chela](#):
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> fuck your corn hole drama,

Not suggesting that Airbnb = “AirBeanBags.”

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**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007/9 "2019-09-11T00:33:51Z")

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> [@jz78817](#):
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> the entire concept of Airbnb is squicky and creeps me the fuck out. Who in their right mind would want to rent their home out to randos? and who in the hell is comfortable invading someone else’s home?

So many people aren’t renting out their homes, though; they’re renting out investment properties. Kind of like normal landlords.

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**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007/10 "2019-09-11T00:40:38Z")

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> [@jz78817](#):
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> the entire concept of Airbnb is squicky and creeps me the fuck out. Who in their right mind would want to rent their home out to randos? and who in the hell is comfortable invading someone else’s home?

It’s been a godsend for people like me that work on the road but don’t get per diem for my job. I work in 3-4 different cities that I don’t live in and Airbnb is the only way to make it economically feasible for me to do so. I can rent a room for 5 days for the same or cheaper than two nights in a motel. There was a learning curve and I had some bad experiences now but now I mostly stay at the same houses every time I go to those cities.

I’ve also developed several friendships and even hung out with some of the people who also frequently stay at the same place or the owner themselves, it’s actually been a fun experience for me.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007/11 "2019-09-11T00:44:26Z")

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LOL @ stink dogs

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**Author:** ![pullin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c57346/32.png) [@pullin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pullin)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007/12 "2019-09-11T11:00:56Z")

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> [@pool](#):
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> It’s been a godsend for people like me that work on the road but don’t get per diem for my job. I work in 3-4 different cities that I don’t live in and Airbnb is the only way to make it economically feasible for me to do so. I can rent a room for 5 days for the same or cheaper than two nights in a motel. There was a learning curve and I had some bad experiences now but now I mostly stay at the same houses every time I go to those cities.
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> I’ve also developed several friendships and even hung out with some of the people who also frequently stay at the same place or the owner themselves, it’s actually been a fun experience for me.

Thanks for that info. I didn’t know there was a large price difference. Like jz78817 above, the concept has been mostly incomprehensible to me. I had viewed it as “renting out a spare room to strangers” and was puzzled why either homeowners or renters would want this. I guess like most news, we only hear about the bad experiences.

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**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007/13 "2019-09-11T12:34:15Z")

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> [@pullin](#):
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> Thanks for that info. I didn’t know there was a large price difference. Like jz78817 above, the concept has been mostly incomprehensible to me. I had viewed it as “renting out a spare room to strangers” and was puzzled why either homeowners or renters would want this. I guess like most news, we only hear about the bad experiences.

It’s also very handy if you want to stay in a place with actual kitchen facilities rather than having to eat out for every single meal.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007/14 "2019-09-11T12:38:15Z")

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I’m in an Airbnb as I write this. I use them a lot for business travel. I find I can usually get a nice place with a kitchen for much less (sometimes half) what the official conference hotel costs. The ability to make some of my own meals helps me save even more. The only downside is that I’m usually a few blocks away from the conference site.

But I never stay in shared spaces, only apartments, condos, or houses that I have all to myself. I wouldn’t be comfortable renting a room in someone’s house with them there. I want more privacy than that, and I don’t want to have to deal with the personal interactions. It’s the reason I don’t like traditional B’n’Bs, either. I don’t want to have to have breakfast at a certain time, and make small talk with the owners and other guests. I prefer hotel-like anonymity and impersonality.

But if you don’t mind that kind of thing, more power to you. My sister on Cape Cod rents out a spare bedroom and she and her guests seem to be fine with it. And she’s making lots of extra money.

I haven’t had any bad experiences as an Airbnb guest. On the contrary, my worst travel experiences have been at cheap hotels with rooms that stink of cigarette smoke, or thin walls and other guests making noise late at night. It’s why I always travel with ear plugs.

The OP seems to be complaining about a neighbor who’s an Airbnb host with shitty guests. Clearly that can be a problem if the host can’t or won’t rein in obnoxious guests. The victimized neighbors’ only recourse seems to be turning to local authorities if a direct appeal to the host doesn’t work. One of the unintended consequences of Airbnb.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007/15 "2019-09-11T12:52:32Z")

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You’ve gotta separate the various issues. One involves whether people want to rent out or stay in such places. But the OP is talking about the interests of neighbors, who bought into a residential neighborhood, but encounter undesirable activity by short-term renters. From what I read, this is especially an issue in many condo associations, but I’ve also read about residential neighborhoods where houses got a reputation as party rentals. I generally am a pretty strong property-rights advocate, but in this instance, I would tend to favor condo associate/zoning restrictions on short-term rentals.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007/16 "2019-09-11T13:38:23Z")

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The only thing I think you have to really worry about if you use Airbnb in China is rushing down to the local cop shop to do the “temporary accommodation registration”. If you’re lucky, there’s not a bumrush at the station and you’ll be in and out in just a few minutes. Otherwise, you’re spending a good chunk of your day that you’d rather spend touristing or what have you. If you don’t get that registration, you can be denied entry on your next visit to China; one such case was in the news a couple of years ago and two foreigners were denied entry because they did not register on their last stay. Other than that, I’ve heard nothing bad here about the service here.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007/17 "2019-09-11T13:41:31Z")

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> [@chela](#):
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> Have some respect assholes, fuck your karaoke, fuck your loud ass conversations, fuck your corn hole drama, fuck your bloated stink dogs wandering at will, fuck your boat stereo at 3 AM, fuck your bitches hi pitched giggles, fuck your 6 trucks parked in the street. Fuck the owners who fucked us over!

Would you care to fill in the details in a more coherent manner? LOL

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007/18 "2019-09-11T17:12:31Z")

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> [@pullin](#):
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> Thanks for that info. I didn’t know there was a large price difference. Like jz78817 above, the concept has been mostly incomprehensible to me. I had viewed it as “renting out a spare room to strangers” and was puzzled why either homeowners or renters would want this. I guess like most news, we only hear about the bad experiences.

I use Airbnb (or similar services) two or three times a year. It’s great. I don’t rent out a single room in a house people are living in, I’m renting out really, really nice houses for long weekends and vacations. The places I’ve stayed at are strictly rental properties. Nobody lives there regularly. Usually it’s me and about half a dozen friends who are doing a weekend getaway kind of thing, so the out-of-pocket price is pretty reasonable, even for a really big place near the water, or up in the woods, or other really desirable locations.

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007/19 "2019-09-11T17:20:00Z")

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> Would you care to fill in the details in a more coherent manner?

[Current news story](https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Cherry-Hill-Home-Muhammad-Ali-Rentals-Restrictions-Airbnb-Noise-Complaints-Ordinance-Ruling-559885961.html), though not sure if it’s what the OP is referring to.

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**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this-weeks-airbnb-shitheads/840007/20 "2019-09-11T18:21:30Z")

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I stay at short-term rentals, too, through VRBO. I like them so much that I’ll never stay at a noisy, uncomfortable hotel again.

I notice that the paperwork that we sign each time we rent includes a lot of provisions and warnings against partying and noise. Curfew hours are usually listed, as well as limits on how many people can stay. Often, even though it’s a stand-alone home with the owner not living on premises, the owner will be there at first to check you out as you arrive and make sure you’re not bringing along way more people than you’ve listed on the paperwork.

Since we’re a older couple with no kids/guests/pets, and don’t smoke, the owners are usually very happy with us. We try to book the same places over again since we’re familiar with the place and the people.

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