# Fuck This

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 26, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119 "2019-06-26T19:29:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/41 "2019-06-27T03:17:08Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> Could I trouble you to pack up some of your sanity in a box and mail it to me? I could really use some of that right now, and it seems like you have enough to share.

Truthfully, I have at times thought “what would Andy do?” Mostly that means I delete things I shouldn’t post, but occasionally it bleeds over to meat-space. 😛

> [@Slash1972](#):
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> That’s pretty funny!
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> Hey, aren’t you the guy who chauffeurs human trafficking victims around?

Yes, he is.

> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Because I barely post anymore. And never in Great Debates or Elections.

I wish you would nudge your boundaries and bit and start posting more.

> [@Slash1972](#):
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> How do you define letting an anonymous message poster win? Or how did you stop him from “winning”? Did you get that guy released from jail?

Oh come on. That was perfectly obvious. You’re playing at Helmut’s level there.

> [@Ravenman](#):
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> I’m giving **Helmut Doork** four weeks on this board before banning. Any other estimates?

He’s been on a steady acceleration of assholery since he started posting. When does school start again? I’d say no later than August 7.

**BPC** I like having you around. Please use ignore or make a voodoo doll or spend a week in Tahiti. We’d rather have you here than him.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/42 "2019-06-27T03:27:33Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> He’s been on a steady acceleration of assholery since he started posting. When does school start again? I’d say no later than August 7.

Did you see his response when I posted that I really hate the school vacation seasons in the US?

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/43 "2019-06-27T04:07:16Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Did you see his response when I posted that I really hate the school vacation seasons in the US?

No…

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**Author:** ![sps49sd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@sps49sd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sps49sd)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/44 "2019-06-27T04:20:07Z")

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BPC, instead of trying to get someone ignored, perhaps try citable facts and reasoning instead of losing your temper online. Or, fpbp, relax, it’s just a 'net forum.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/45 "2019-06-27T04:31:34Z")

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Driving for Uber = human trafficking chauffeur. Okaaayy then. :rolleyes:

Get a grip.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/46 "2019-06-27T06:21:30Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> > [@Monty](#):
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> > Did you see his response when I posted that I really hate the school vacation seasons in the US?
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> No…

Here you go, a “twofer”.

> [@Apologies in order to SDMB member in light of new Ilhan Omar info?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apologies-in-order-to-sdmb-member-in-light-of-new-ilhan-omar-info/835971/78):
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> If you are referring to me, but are not naming me because you are too superior or whatever the logic, if you want to lower yourself to respond directly to a post of mine, would be glad to see where you find bigotry?
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> Did you read the OP where I made it quite clear I don’t give a fig about Rep. Omar, my point was to expose personal hypocrisy?

&

> [@Apologies in order to SDMB member in light of new Ilhan Omar info?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apologies-in-order-to-sdmb-member-in-light-of-new-ilhan-omar-info/835971/130):
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> tell me, if zero basis in fact, then why this very specific rumour about this very specific person was chosen as the one to tell about them?
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> And sorry but your theory about USA and summer is a wee bit, how you say- dumb? we are to believe high school and college kids in USA sit around all spring, waiting for the final day of class so they can immediately run out and…troll the oldtimers on a local message board? :rolleyes: What exactly is in place that keeps us, i mean them, from doing it year round?? too busy with glee club and dances?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/47 "2019-06-27T09:20:57Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Truthfully, I have at times thought “what would Andy do?” Mostly that means I delete things I shouldn’t post, but occasionally it bleeds over to meat-space. 😛

What a nice thing to say. 🙂

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/48 "2019-06-27T09:36:31Z")

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The Dope has taken steps to address the sexism on this board, but we just don’t do much to curtail the racists. I think it’s because this is largely a place for old white people and we don’t prioritize, or even really see the casual racism thrown around here. Because we don’t do anything to control it, people lose their temper and lash out at members of the cadre of racists from time to time. You’re more likely to get a warning here for calling a racist a racist than they are for their racist trolling.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/49 "2019-06-27T09:52:06Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> The Dope has taken steps to address the sexism on this board, but we just don’t do much to curtail the racists. I think it’s because this is largely a place for old white people and we don’t prioritize, or even really see the casual racism thrown around here. Because we don’t do anything to control it, people lose their temper and lash out at members of the cadre of racists from time to time. You’re more likely to get a warning here for calling a racist a racist than they are for their racist trolling.

We still have a long way to go on misogyny too – see this thread: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=877699](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=877699)

Some pretty disgusting mockery and dehumanization of a woman for nothing more than telling her story.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/50 "2019-06-27T10:10:18Z")

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> [@sps49sd](#):
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> BPC, instead of trying to get someone ignored, perhaps try citable facts and reasoning instead of losing your temper online.

Doesn’t work, trying to argue with “citable facts and reasoning” just plays into the hands of the fascists and people who use similar rhetorical tactics. Treating them with respect like that makes fascism more respectable, and is utterly ineffectual as an argument since they don’t reciprocate.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/51 "2019-06-27T11:43:39Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Doesn’t work, trying to argue with “citable facts and reasoning” just plays into the hands of the fascists and people who use similar rhetorical tactics. Treating them with respect like that makes fascism more respectable, and is utterly ineffectual as an argument since they don’t reciprocate.

Wrong. The minute you stop caring about “citable facts and reason” you’ve lost the argument, lost the moral high ground, and proven that you’re no better than the worst of your opponents.

You, and the other extremists here such as the OP, need to realise that just because some people have different priorities and opinions to you deosn’t make them evil/

As for the OP, the moment you start trying to “tone police” a discussion, to try to limit the ways in which things can be discussed, you’ve also lost. Shutting down discussion and debate is what extremist, anti-democratic politicians try to do. Currently, it’s what Trump is doing to a large extent, and to a lesser extent in the US what Ilhan Omar is doing. You should try to be better than them - but having read many of your posts, it’s clear that you are not.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/52 "2019-06-27T11:43:58Z")

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BPC, you remind me of myself in winter sometimes. A little bit of cabin fever, maybe a tendency to booze up a bit too much?

But it’s summertime now. Time to go out and enjoy the pool:cool:

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/53 "2019-06-27T12:13:43Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Well what the fuck am I supposed to do?

You could [list=A][li]Put him on Ignore [_]Start yet another thread in ATMB whining that anyone who doesn’t confess the One True Faith that Trump is a Nazi is trolling, or [_]Grow a pair.[/list]Your call.[/li]  
Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/54 "2019-06-27T12:44:33Z")

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> [@Helmut\_Doork](#):
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> this is the first thread where I have ever made an unkind comment towards another, where they had not made one at me prior, and only to someone who jokes that Jews are vermin. You tactfully made an observation about me here, and I am not insulting you becasue your post was sincere and not hateful, and one I will do some self analysis on.

Didn’t you get a warning for insulting me and another poster in the Women’s World Cup thread? I don’t remember insulting you there – maybe you could post where I did.

Or, just admit that the above is a lie. Either way works for me.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/55 "2019-06-27T15:18:40Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Wrong. The minute you stop caring about “citable facts and reason” you’ve lost the argument, lost the moral high ground, and proven that you’re no better than the worst of your opponents.

Bullshit. Some opponents are quite genuinely not worth the waste of mental effort that goes into assuming they can be reached by facts and reason.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/56 "2019-06-27T15:22:09Z")

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I’ll make the same argument I always do when this pops up. You’re not only making your case to your direct debate opponent. You’re making it to the 100-1 who are just reading and lurking. To do otherwise is to leave the field to your rival.

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/57 "2019-06-27T15:46:37Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Every time I see you get indignant, I think of the time that you hopped a turnstile, got called out on it, and complained that you should have gotten a free pass because you are a more important person than the guy who told you that you can’t hop turnstiles.
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> Your public freak outs are not as convincing or endearing as you think they are.

This. Posts like this are why the board could really use an upvote function.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/58 "2019-06-27T15:51:33Z")

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> [@wevets](#):
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> This. Posts like this are why the board could really use an upvote function.

[Agreed.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=874005)

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/59 "2019-06-27T15:53:55Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Bullshit. Some opponents are quite genuinely not worth the waste of mental effort that goes into assuming they can be reached by facts and reason.

It’s not about the opponent, it’s about you. If your position is valid, you can defend it with cites and reason, and you should do that. Getting angry or insulting may well be fun and cathartic, but you should always be able to back it up.

And some people can be reached. I’ve changed my opinion about a few things based on cites and reason, most notably trans issues in the last few years.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/60 "2019-06-27T16:16:31Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Truthfully, I have at times thought “what would Andy do?” Mostly that means I delete things I shouldn’t post, but occasionally it bleeds over to meat-space. 😛

That’s why we made him [king](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=873218).

He got better.

And put me down for the end of July for the **HD** banning. Either one.

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