# Fuck This **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 26, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119 "2019-06-26T19:29:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/81 "2019-06-28T14:12:32Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > So says Shodan, cite free, who thinks it’s appropriate to refer to black people as the N word. No one endorses consistent defenders of rapists and bigots with an unmatched confidence like our very own Shodan. Hail! Which shows another related problem (in the eyes of those who object to the very presence of un-appproved thought). Now that you quoted my post, even people who have me on Ignore will see it. Unless they implemented that script that hides everything an Ignored poster writes, and that is not an automatic feature of the board software. So not only do they have to Ignore me, they have try to make the special effort to implement the script. And it doesn’t fulfill their need, which is not merely to ensure they don’t see me, but that nobody sees me. My posts, and the heresies they contain, remain on the board. The only thing that will meet their need to prevent anyone from seeing anything they don’t like, is Banning. That’s why they push so hard to make any deviation from the group-think a trolling offense. Obviously a better solution would be to delete all posts from a Banned poster, but at least they can comfort themselves by with the usual “See! See! He was trolling! The mods said so! I win!!!” The logic of “he wasn’t banned for incorrect thoughts, he was banned for trolling, where trolling = incorrect thoughts, but that wasn’t why he was banned” is pretty thin, but Dopers can talk themselves into it. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/82 "2019-06-28T14:19:49Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Are you talking about the HD that moves the goalpost so much, he had caster wheels installed? The HD that stops replying to someone when they point out how wrong he is? The HD that finds the most minute error in an argument that doesn’t change the opponents argument and then picks on it like a 10 year boy working on a scab? The HD that thinks McVeigh was probably a good guy? > > We must be talking about different HD’s. Yes, we are talking about different **HurricaneDitka** s. I am talking about the one who posts here. You are talking about the one the various sufferers from Trump Derangement Syndrome _think_ posts here. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/83 "2019-06-28T14:41:50Z")
> [@Post your unpopular opinions](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-unpopular-opinions/806001/165): > > I think Timothy McVeigh’s actions were not an entirely unreasonable reaction to Ruby Ridge and Waco. … ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/84 "2019-06-28T14:44:58Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Yes, we are talking about different **HurricaneDitka** s. I am talking about the one who posts here. You are talking about the one the various sufferers from Trump Derangement Syndrome _think_ posts here. > > Regards, > Shodan The fact that you endorse this malicious idiot is a condemnation of both him and you. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/85 "2019-06-28T14:56:04Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > they are afraid to use facts and logic against **HurricaneDitka** because they tend to lose the argument. Aw, that’s so cute! C’mon, do it again! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/86 "2019-06-28T15:01:11Z")
His Education in Broadcasting is showing again. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/87 "2019-06-28T15:26:09Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Which is pretty much what they are afraid of, in this case. > > As **Der Trihs** points out, they are afraid to use facts and logic against **HurricaneDitka** because they tend to lose the argument. > [snip] And that’s when you jumped off the Reality Train. Happy landings, CaptMurdock ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/88 "2019-06-28T17:11:26Z")
Endorsing the OKC bombing?!? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/89 "2019-06-28T17:35:07Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > …the various sufferers from Trump Derangement Syndrome… Anyone who uses this phrase needs to turn off the right wing propaganda and go outside to enjoy the fresh air. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/90 "2019-06-28T18:14:05Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Which shows another related problem (in the eyes of those who object to the very presence of un-appproved thought). > > Now that you quoted my post, even people who have me on Ignore will see it. Unless they implemented that script that hides everything an Ignored poster writes, and that is not an automatic feature of the board software. So not only do they have to Ignore me, they have try to make the special effort to implement the script. And it doesn’t fulfill their need, which is not merely to ensure they don’t see me, but that nobody sees me. My posts, and the heresies they contain, remain on the board. The only thing that will meet their need to prevent anyone from seeing anything they don’t like, is Banning. That’s why they push so hard to make any deviation from the group-think a trolling offense. Obviously a better solution would be to delete all posts from a Banned poster, but at least they can comfort themselves by with the usual “See! See! He was trolling! The mods said so! I win!!!” > > The logic of “he wasn’t banned for incorrect thoughts, he was banned for trolling, where trolling = incorrect thoughts, but that wasn’t why he was banned” is pretty thin, but Dopers can talk themselves into it. > > Regards, > Shodan And no one reads liberal minds like **Shodan**. Thank you for sharing your unerringly confident wisdom! Of all the people who are certain about those they hate, **Shodan** ’s certainty is truly the most certain of all. ---
**Author:** ![sps49sd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@sps49sd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sps49sd)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/91 "2019-06-28T19:25:32Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > So says Shodan, cite free, who thinks it’s appropriate to refer to black people as the N word. No one endorses consistent defenders of rapists and bigots with an unmatched confidence like our very own Shodan. Hail! Maybe, but _ad hominem_ attacks don’t address the truthiness of what was posted. Surely you can just show where a post is incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/92 "2019-06-28T19:32:08Z")
> [@sps49sd](#): > > Maybe, but _ad hominem_ attacks don’t address the truthiness of what was posted. Surely you can just show where a post is incorrect. 39,000 times bitten, twice shy. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/93 "2019-06-28T19:39:56Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > And no one reads liberal minds like **Shodan**. Thank you for sharing your unerringly confident wisdom! Of all the people who are certain about those they hate, **Shodan** ’s certainty is truly the most certain of all. You’re welcome, I guess. Although I would say that Dopers like **Der Trihs** and some others are a great deal more certain about who they hate. But that’s kind of the point. You are quite certain about who you hate. You are equally certain about who I hate, even when I am not certain. I don’t hate **HurricaneDitka** , I rather like him as a poster. I don’t hate **Der Trihs** either. I don’t hate **BPC** - he’s kind of a nut, but when he settles down and tries to talk rationally he isn’t a bad poster. I don’t hate you, despite the occasional one-trick pony thing with the Chris Rock cite and the frankly rather dishonest tactic of “that has nothing to do with what I said” when you have been refuted. But I also don’t hate Trump and Republicans. At which point, the Usual Suspects stop reading and start screaming. So it goes. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/94 "2019-06-28T19:39:57Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Anyone who uses this phrase needs to turn off the right wing propaganda and go outside to enjoy the fresh air. It’s a real disorder, afflicting both the man his ardent supporters. Highly contagious, no known cure. In patient zero, it manifests as ordinary derangement or dementia. For the millions of infected, it metastizes into something like Stockholm syndrome, or body politic dysmorphia. They look at Trump and see someone who’s competent, highly intelligent, always focused on what’s best for the country— presidential, in essence— despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Several members and guests of this very forum are suffering from this modern-day plague. It’s heartbreaking to watch, knowing there’s nothing we can do to help. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/95 "2019-06-28T19:42:02Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Several members and guests of this very forum are suffering from this modern-day plague. It’s heartbreaking to watch, knowing there’s nothing we can do to help. I would recommend alcohol in large quantities, but it appears you have already tried that. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/96 "2019-06-28T19:52:20Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > As **Der Trihs** points out, they are afraid to use facts and logic against **HurricaneDitka** because they tend to lose the argument. Does your universe have stringent visa requirements? Because I think it would be an interesting place to visit. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/97 "2019-06-28T19:58:05Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > You are quite certain about who you hate. Praise the lord Shodan! You can even read my mind, apparently better than I can. Why, at this very moment, I suspect you have certainty about who I hate. If only you would share this wisdom… I mean, I think I have love for all Dopers, even the ones I think are rotten. But perhaps you could tell me better about my feelings? > [@](#): > > You are equally certain about who I hate, even when I am not certain. I certainly apologize if I wrongly implied something. How could I know better than you at even my own thoughts, much less yours? > [@](#): > > I don’t hate you, despite the occasional one-trick pony thing with the Chris Rock cite I know! How horrible that I remember so strongly your belief that it’s okay to refer to some black people as the N word, and often bring it up! Maybe it would be different, say, if I was a poster who generally focused on racism and symbols of racism and regularly discussed the topic. Or if I encouraged you to reevaluate your position on racial slurs, and had invited you for a discussion on the topic. > [@](#): > > and the frankly rather dishonest tactic of “that has nothing to do with what I said” when you have been refuted. And even worse than remembering and mentioning your feelings on racial slurs, sometimes I have the audacity to be confused by a reply under the belief that it was a response to a straw man! Surely straw men are never seen on a board such as this… Or even if they are occasionally, never by conservatives. Only liberals use such mistaken and dishonest tactics! > [@](#): > > But I also don’t hate Trump and Republicans. At which point, the Usual Suspects stop reading and start screaming. So it goes. Which just reinforces my amazement that you continue to spread your wisdom among us. It’d be different if we actually had thoughtful and interesting discussions, even when the subject of Trump and his policies came up. But all we do is “screaming” - what a brave soul you are to plow through such terror just to selflessly plant the seed of wisdom! Hail! ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/98 "2019-06-29T06:25:33Z")
> [@tricoteuse](#): > > What a lot of words to say “don’t feed the troll.” I firmly believe “don’t feed the troll” is horrible advice on its own. It doesn’t describe what feeding actually is, or what you should do instead. People tend to assume it means “don’t ever reply at all.” Since other people are going to reply anyways, that would be entirely useless. I tried to give practical advice instead. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/99 "2019-06-29T06:30:24Z")
> [@sps49sd](#): > > Maybe, but _ad hominem_ attacks don’t address the truthiness of what was posted. Surely you can just show where a post is incorrect. He’s just speaking **Shodan** ’s native language. The guy only seems to understand snark. Plus he’s actively lying AGAIN about what people have actually said. That’s something that (completely understandably) seems to really irk **iiandyiiii**. People use facts and logic against HD all the time. The problem is that he just ignores it all. But, compared to **Shodan** , he does seem quite eloquent, so I understand his (metaphorical) crush on him. **Bricker** ’s gone, so he had to move on. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119/100 "2019-07-01T01:36:57Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > But I also don’t hate Trump and Republicans. At which point, the Usual Suspects stop reading and start screaming. So it goes. > > Regards, > Shodan Hah! Truer words and all that. I haven’t been on here in a year and I say something decent about Trump and I am automatically a ‘bully’ ‘terrible human being’ and many other things. I almost miss this stuff. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-this/836119.md?page=6)