# Fuck Trump and his followers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 6, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749 "2024-11-06T01:27:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/181 "2024-11-08T00:06:25Z")
What did he say? Anything specific? ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/182 "2024-11-08T00:11:14Z")
He put out a [statement](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-response-presidential-election/story?id=115582079) trashing Democrats. Just more self-aggrandizing blather from a useless gasbag. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/183 "2024-11-08T00:12:12Z")
Kee-rist. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/184 "2024-11-08T00:16:01Z")
> “should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them.” All for it. Sanders kicks when its the right time to kick, after a big loss. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/185 "2024-11-08T00:19:21Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > He put out a [statement](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-response-presidential-election/story?id=115582079) trashing Democrats. Just more self-aggrandizing blather from a useless gasbag I’m appalled that so many try to attribute blame to someone who probably would have been a wonderful POTUS, and her party which generally tries to represent decency and humanity, instead of blaming an appalling population of vile racists and conspiracy theorists. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/186 "2024-11-08T01:29:57Z")
Well said. And I’m sure that had Harris gone full socialist, she would have won the day. Jesus Christ, there’s a man with his finger on the pulse.Sanders should have retired. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/187 "2024-11-08T01:34:11Z")
He’s a bitter, tired old know-it-all crank. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/188 "2024-11-08T01:41:04Z")
After a loss its time to account. And I just hope the Dems can steer their party towards a strong social minded recovery. If you hate Sanders for driving this point home, so be it. Who really cares. Trump just won. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/189 "2024-11-08T02:17:47Z")
Yeah, that’s the point. Trump just won. And he didn’t win because the Democrats weren’t progressive enough. Bernie doesn’t understand the American electorate. At all. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/190 "2024-11-08T02:27:56Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Remember the 3 "F"s > Front lawn > Face up > Feet together > > Tend to them before yourself > Use a calm tone of voice > > Infants & pets > The littlest patriots The 51st state is not a place. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/191 "2024-11-08T02:31:25Z")
Sanders disagrees. During the election you got to fall in line with the party, but after a loss? Frankly the right/centre Dems need to defend and justify their current vision of their party now. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/192 "2024-11-08T02:38:37Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Trump just won. And he didn’t win because the Democrats weren’t progressive enough. Trump just won because the people who voted for him in 2020 wanted him just as bad for President two days ago as they did four years ago. And they turned out. For whatever reason, the people who wanted Biden for President in 2020 didn’t all want Harris quite as much. I suspect a non-negligible amount of it was a lingering undercurrent of racism and misogyny. But I also think there’s some merit to the idea that maybe “Hey, let’s get the Cheneys out here and talk about how we’re going to have a Republican in the cabinet” wasn’t a winner with progressives, particularly those who have been misguided into thinking the Democratic Party might actually learn something from their staying home. In reality, the Democratic Party will just follow the Republicans to the right… off a cliff, and it will be all the harder for even progress-curious candidates to win a national election in the future. The drumbeat needs to be vote progressive in the primaries, and Democrat in the generals. Keep that drumbeat going for 2 years and just maybe we’ll be able to get a partial barrier to Trump by taking one of the houses of Congress in 2026. Because god I hope the Republicans don’t get four full years to fuck up our country unchecked. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/193 "2024-11-08T13:11:11Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > The drumbeat needs to be vote progressive in the primaries, and Democrat in the generals. Keep that drumbeat going for 2 years and just maybe we’ll be able to get a partial barrier to Trump by taking one of the houses of Congress in 2026. Do you feel that going full-progressive will really bring in enough votes to make a difference? ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/194 "2024-11-08T13:39:02Z")
Not for certain, no. But clearly going full “we love Republicans and want to be exactly like they were a quarter century ago, only without the _overt_ racism, transphobia, homophobia, and misogyny” hasn’t done the trick, either. Note that I don’t think both parties are equally bad (in fact, even just taking out all that overt bigotry is _something_), had no trouble casting an enthusiastic vote for Harris, and was certainly not spreading this criticism on social media in the run up to the general election (except maybe if you go back and look at some of my posts, you’ll detect an undercurrent—maybe) but I do think the story of the Democratic party of the last 50 years looks and awful lot like the story of the Republican party of 75 to 25 years ago, especially when it comes to the warm embrace of conservative economic policies (neo-liberalism) and an increasingly reactionary stance on immigration. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/195 "2024-11-08T14:08:38Z")
The hate has started. > **[Racist text messages referencing slavery raise alarms in multiple states and...](https://abc7chicago.com/post/racist-text-messages-referencing-slavery-raise-alarms-multiple-states-prompt-investigations/15524823/)** > > Racist text messages invoking slavery raised alarm across the country this week after they were sent to Black men, women and students, including middle schoolers, prompting inquiries by the FBI and other agencies. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/196 "2024-11-08T14:13:04Z")
But, but, I was assured that if we asked them they’d explain that none of their reasons for supporting Trump had anything to do with racism… ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/197 "2024-11-08T14:21:52Z")
> **[‘Your body, my choice’: Women report rise in online misogyny following Trump...](https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/trump-misogyny-tiktok-reproductive-rights-us-election-b2643207.html)** > > ‘The masks are fully off now,’ one person claimed “Your body, my choice” is a rising right wing slogan women are getting shoved in their face. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/198 "2024-11-08T14:40:29Z")
[Moved it](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-what-should-people-on-the-left-do/1009778/227). Mostly a hijack anyways. Fuck Trumpists. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/199 "2024-11-08T16:05:31Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > The hate has started. “Evolved”, is perhaps a better term. It’s been here a long time already. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/200 "2024-11-08T16:09:35Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > “Evolved”, is perhaps a better term. It’s been here a long time already. Yes, this is just the latest incarnation of the faction that the US built into its foundations when it let the slave states in. America’s original sin, along with the genocide of the Native Americans. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749.md?page=11)