# Fuck Trump and his followers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 6, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749 "2024-11-06T01:27:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/281 "2024-11-13T06:00:32Z")

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But you find out the hard way. I think my favorite saying this week is “The Dildo of Consequence rarely arrives lubed”.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/282 "2024-11-13T06:00:42Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Are they also totally ignorant of what _is_ out there?

To be clear, there are many people, including relatives, I will likely never have any further communication with due to their views. There are others who don’t know what they don’t know, who if they did, would be shocked (and no doubt will, shortly).

The biggest problem is things like Fox News spewing out their trash over public airwaves, 24/7.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/283 "2024-11-13T06:44:05Z")

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I am going to have to remember this one! 😃 And by the way, I have an aunt who used to be a political assistant to Mike Huckabee. But since she retired I haven’t heard her mention politics, and I am doing the same when I am around her.

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**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/284 "2024-11-13T12:46:15Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Are they also totally ignorant of what _is_ out there? What Trump is? What Trump does? Of the many promises Trump has broken? Of the many lies Trump has told? Of the absolute hatred and disdain for the poor, the needy, and the broken? Of his sneering at the U.S. Military?

Its hard to stay ignorant when we are RUDELY reminding everyone of the reality. Thus be quiet. Decorum, etc.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/285 "2024-11-13T14:49:00Z")

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Just like the Republicans, right? 🙄

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/286 "2024-11-16T13:22:19Z")

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_Be quiet! I **order** you to be quiet!_

_Order? Who does he think he is?_

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/287 "2024-12-19T06:15:13Z")

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Well, he hasn’t got Shit all over him

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/288 "2024-12-19T12:05:56Z")

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What do you think Trump uses for bronzer?

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/289 "2024-12-19T13:39:39Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> I’m sick of these jerk ass white men who think they rule the world.  
> There will be a reckoning.

I have trouble getting outraged about the “Great Replacement Theory”.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/290 "2024-12-19T13:44:50Z")

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Yeah. As I’ve said before, the Great Replacement Theory is paranoid nonsense but even if it weren’t I’d have no problem with the main proponents of it being replaced.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/291 "2024-12-19T15:17:52Z")

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In part I think the “Great Replacement” is a result of “[hypodescent](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypodescent)”; also known as the “One Drop Rule”. If a white person having children with a non-white counts as “not white” and not the converse, then without strict miscegenation rules over time there will be fewer and fewer “white” people. Not because of any actual change, but because the way they are _counted_ by racists means more and more of them will be disqualified just because of who their ancestors slept with.

It’s a lot like how a family name can vanish without anybody being killed, because generally only one gender carries the name. Genetically the family is still there, it’s just a labeling issue. In the same way according to the “one drop rule” _eventually_ there’ll be no “white people” left, despite nobody being killed and there being millions of, well, people who _are_ white according to the non-racists.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/292 "2024-12-19T23:11:29Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> If a white person having children with a non-white counts as “not white” and not the converse, then without strict miscegenation rules over time there will be fewer and fewer “white” people. Not because of any actual change, but because the way they are _counted_ by racists means more and more of them will be disqualified just because of who their ancestors slept with.

Ssshh, no one tell the white supremacists that (by every reputable scientific account) we ALL have a family tree originating in…AFRICA.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/293 "2024-12-21T00:27:48Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> What do you think Trump uses for bronzer?

Well, now, that evokes a revolting scene, as he gets up in the morning, takes off his diaper and, um, you can finish the thought.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/294 "2024-12-23T19:26:30Z")

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I agree. Fuck the Dickhead in Charge and fuck everyone who voted for him. Don’t beg me for help when your medical bills come due. I don’t give a fuck. I don’t want to support anyone who voted for this asshole. Fuck you and go get a gofundme and I hope no one gives you a dollar. Pull yourself up by your own goddamn bootstraps.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/295 "2024-12-23T20:00:50Z")

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I agree. Trump voters decided to hurt everyone else, and we don’t owe them any sympathy at all. Just contempt and hatred.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/296 "2024-12-23T20:11:34Z")

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I have noticed more and more (even on this message board) that hatred of others is just a part of normalized speech, and that “facts” are when opinions are when others say something you agree with, which means that the term “tone down the hate speech” is absolute gibberish to them. They are actually astonished that people object to what they say and how they say it. They see it as discrimination of their political views only, and not regulation of how they say things.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/297 "2024-12-23T20:15:44Z")

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When people are trying to hurt you (and millions of others) hating them is reasonable and a matter of self defense. “Love your enemy” in real life just gets you hurt or killed.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/298 "2024-12-23T20:19:34Z")

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I’m sorry, but they are saying the same thing about the left. You _have_ to have a specific set of standards that do not change according to your political view, you _have_ to call out the crap, and you _have_ to call out the illegalities. “They do it too!!” has to be condemned as a weapon, because all it does is legitimize the original wrong.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/299 "2024-12-23T20:24:50Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I’m sorry, but they are saying the same thing about the left.

Except _their_ complaints are based on fantasy; “bothsides” doesn’t work. It’s silly to equate fears of fascist white nationalists and religious fanaticism, with fears of Satanic pedophiles with secret weather control machines.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/300 "2024-12-23T21:01:14Z")

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Except that their fears and “facts” are just as real to them. They have actually redefined some terms and completely phased others out of existence. If you don’t believe me bring up “hypocrisy” with them and notice the blank looks. At best, hypocrisy is just a weapon to be welded in a very real (to them) war.

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