# Fuck Trump and his followers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 6, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749 "2024-11-06T01:27:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/321 "2024-12-24T17:57:58Z")
> [@SunUp](#): > > Yeah. It was probably three times. Be fair, now. He wasn’t a convicted felon in 2016 or even 2020, just a lying bastard. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/322 "2024-12-24T20:26:15Z")
Yet more grift from Trump. But if you have the money and a lack of all characteristics men call good, you too can bask in his presence and watch the holy water boil. > **[At Trump’s inauguration, reports of a pay-to-pray](https://religionnews.com/2024/12/23/amid-uncertainty-around-religion-at-trumps-inauguration-reports-of-a-pay-to-pray/)** > > (RNS) — According to a report, you can pray with Trump and Melania. It'll only cost you $100,000. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/323 "2024-12-24T22:14:32Z")
Yeah we see it with a few populists here in the UK (who will remain nameless, so I don’t hijack) People who were born into wealth, had every privilege throughout their lives, and have never shown the slightest inclination to care about the little guy…able to rally the crowds with talk of taking back “our” country from the “elites”. While, as you say, giving tax breaks to their rich friends. So disappointing to see how easily people can be conned. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/324 "2024-12-24T22:42:10Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > ‘Some day ,when Im not on the welfairs and the food stamps and the seckshun ate I two will be a milinair so I want taxes too be low to!’ > ~ The poor ignorant bastards that voted for him Many years ago I read an article that talked about how so many people who vote Republican believe that they are just one personal injury lawsuit or lottery win away from being wealthy. I suddenly understood my brother a whole lot better. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/325 "2024-12-24T23:49:02Z")
Numerous observers have wondered why the Democrats don’t do better with the rural poor, whom one might think would stand to gain from social welfare and economic redistribution. I wonder if there’s a “poor but proud” ethic at work here. I’m thinking of how traditionally every white Southerner considered themselves nobility, and even the poorest “white trash” regarded themselves as shabby genteel, their circumstances a mere accident, and maintained a touchy pride. And whether this is an entirely different culture and outlook from urban and minority poverty. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/326 "2024-12-24T23:51:04Z")
Did you ever wonder if the power hungry media might just have a bit to do with it? ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/327 "2024-12-24T23:59:54Z")
Presuming that you don’t watch Fox News, I would suppose that the reason for that is that you simply don’t agree with the views they promote. In other words, Fox News would have no audience if it weren’t for all the people predisposed to think that way already. Conservative media is not the _primum movens_ of the political universe. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/328 "2024-12-25T00:06:02Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Presuming that you don’t watch Fox News You presume far too much that I am even speaking about “Fox News”, as much as the Right likes to pretend that they are the be-all and end-all of right wing influence in this country. By the way, insinuating that people form their opinion out of whole cloth _then_ seek out that which agrees with it ain’t gonna fly…especially from someone raised in Northern Idaho. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/329 "2024-12-25T00:37:03Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Numerous observers have wondered why the Democrats don’t do better with the rural poor, whom one might think would stand to gain from social welfare and economic redistribution. I wonder if there’s a “poor but proud” ethic at work here. I’m thinking of how traditionally every white Southerner considered themselves nobility, and even the poorest “white trash” regarded themselves as shabby genteel, their circumstances a mere accident, and maintained a touchy pride. And whether this is an entirely different culture and outlook from urban and minority poverty. Ya mean something like, > President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.” ? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/330 "2024-12-25T00:53:37Z")
There is a shitload of pocket-picking going on, and it is something I have seen in person. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/331 "2024-12-25T00:58:44Z")
Yes. > **[Steve Rattner's Morning Joe Charts: Blue Aid for Red States | Steve Rattner](https://stevenrattner.com/2024/09/steve-rattners-morning-joe-charts-blue-aid-for-red-states/)** > > One of the more interesting ironies of the political dynamic is that the Republican philosophy of government — less spending and lower taxes — would most benefit the “blue states” while bigger government has been disproportionately beneficial to the... [![](https://stevenrattner.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/1-MJ_9.5.24_CHART1.png) ](https://stevenrattner.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/1-MJ_9.5.24_CHART1.png) > On an overall basis, blue state residents generally pay far more to the federal government than they receive back in aid and other forms of programmatic support from Washington. Some of this has to do with the fact that average incomes in the blue states tend to be substantially higher than in red states and therefore yield more in taxes — $14,500 per resident of a blue state versus $11,400 from each citizen of a red state. (Note that Virginia and Maryland are notable exceptions to this dichotomy because of the large federal workforces in those states, including a substantial military presence in Virginia.) Accordingly, lower tax rates, as Donald Trump is espousing, would benefit these blue states disproportionately (assuming restoring the deduction for state and local taxes remains off the table.) ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/332 "2024-12-25T01:08:31Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > Many years ago I read an article that talked about how so many people who vote Republican believe that they are just one personal injury lawsuit or lottery win away from being wealthy. I suddenly understood my brother a whole lot better. I’m not sure I buy that. I doubt the coal miners, farmers, or various other working class Americans who voted Trump have any expectation of becoming wealthy one day. I think most of them honestly want good paying jobs so they can provide their families with a decent living. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/333 "2024-12-25T01:09:08Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Numerous observers have wondered why the Democrats don’t do better with the rural poor, whom one might think would stand to gain from social welfare and economic redistribution. I wonder if there’s a “poor but proud” ethic at work here. I’m thinking of how traditionally every white Southerner considered themselves nobility, and even the poorest “white trash” regarded themselves as shabby genteel, their circumstances a mere accident, and maintained a touchy pride. And whether this is an entirely different culture and outlook from urban and minority poverty. I don’t think they felt their circumstances to me accidental, but rather the result of the actions of _certain other people_. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/334 "2024-12-25T05:02:49Z")
Fuck Time Magazine. The media is really the suck right now. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/335 "2024-12-25T08:48:16Z")
His followers are–and this comes as a surprise?–[outright morons](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/barron-trump-give-up-seat-for-veteran/). (The link goes to Snopes.) > In December 2024, a video circulated online that claimed [Barron Trump](https://www.snopes.com/tag/barron-trump/), U.S. President-elect [Donald Trump’s](https://www.snopes.com/tag/donald-trump/) youngest son, gave up his first-class seat to an elderly veteran. & > Users flooded the video with comments, appearing to believe the story. “He was taught the right way how to honor veterans and to respect all,” a top comment read. And why shouldn’t they believe this story? > The video also displayed signs of AI-generation — YouTube flagged it as “altered or synthetic content.” And the real kicker: > Lastly, the description of the video included a disclaimer that clarified the channel posted only fictional stories: > > > The stories presented on this channel are entirely fictional and crafted solely for entertainment. Any resemblance to real events, individuals, or situations is purely coincidental and unintentional. These narratives are not intended to depict, reference, or represent any actual occurrences, persons, or entities. Morons. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/336 "2024-12-25T11:17:09Z")
No. Trump is a rapist. There was a whole case about this, with a judge and everything. Pay attention. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/337 "2024-12-25T13:31:46Z")
As angry as I might be with Trump supporters, there are too many of them to ignore or dismiss. One way or the other, I’ve got to live with them. I’m just not sure how to do that right now. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/338 "2024-12-25T14:57:49Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > No. Trump is a rapist > > There was a whole case about this, with a judge and everything. Pay attention. Watch it, you could be sued for libel for saying that. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/339 "2024-12-25T15:14:07Z")
To the tune of “[**I Am Woman**](https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=tOZxoYxxiGM)” by Helen Reddy I am MAGA dumb and poor Too shrill and loud to be ignored And I don’t know shit; that’s why I chose this ‘man’ ‘Cause I’m a Fox News whore And my thinking skills are poor And no one _else_ is gonna’ lie to me again Yes, I love Trump But I’m ignorant and lame Yes, I’ve paid the price But his NFTs’ got game If I have to, I’ll don my MAGA hat I am dumb (dumb) I am unreachable I am MAGA ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/340 "2024-12-25T16:11:04Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Watch it, you could be sued for libel for saying that. Or just beaten to death by MAGA. That’s doesn’t make it any less true. Trump is a sexual predator, which is one reason he won the election; America is _full_ of people who support rape and sexual assault in general. Every woman who is raped is a victory for the Right. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749.md?page=18)