# Fuck Trump and his followers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 6, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749 "2024-11-06T01:27:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/381 "2024-12-31T00:37:49Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Who wrote that sentence? It has a 3.2 average. ShitGibbon’s text rarely exceeds a 2. No way _he_ wrote that.

I’m also certain he didn’t write it. But it has his Imprimatur so his slither of supporters is freaking out that he’s not condeming Carter and celebrating the death of a good man.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/382 "2024-12-31T00:43:04Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> He said once, JUST ONCE, that he opposed abortion. This is all some of them need.

I don’t get the point you’re out to make here; they presumably didn’t need him to _say_ it, ahem, JUST ONCE; they presumably wanted him to _appoint Supreme Court Justices accordingly_ — without which, merely _saying_ it JUST ONCE would’ve been worthy of, what, a shrug? But, instead, they, uh, got _more_ than him merely saying it, right?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/383 "2024-12-31T01:49:05Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> At this point, any time I encounter someone proclaiming her/his Christianity, I flee in the other direction.

I’m reminded of how my mother once told me that she didn’t tell people she was Christian, because she didn’t want them to be _afraid_ of her. Whatever the average American Christian is actually like, the hatemongers and greedheads have definitely taken over the “brand image” here.

Case in point: The fact that Trump, a walking embodiment of the Seven Deadly Sins is considered some sort of champion of Christianity. And that most people don’t even find that odd.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/384 "2024-12-31T01:59:33Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> I also have a feeling that the Manchurian Cantaloupe …

I’ve never heard that appellation given to Trump before, and I like it. Well done!

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/385 "2024-12-31T02:22:06Z")

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How about Tangerine Terrorist?

I’ve been calling him the Manchurian Cantaloupe since 2016ish.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/386 "2024-12-31T02:22:34Z")

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He also said in that interview that he wanted women who had them to be criminally prosecuted.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/387 "2024-12-31T03:43:32Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> He also said in that interview that he wanted women who had them to be criminally prosecuted

I still have no idea what your point is. And — look, this isn’t some disingenuous tactic on my part; I honestly don’t get why you’re bothering to say this. Your point seems to be that various people who were against abortion voted for Trump _for that reason,_ and — well, near as I can tell, he then delivered for them _on that._ I don’t get why you’d also mention stuff he said he wanted, or whether he said something “JUST ONCE” instead of saying it twice or thrice; isn’t the point, isn’t _your_ point, that they wanted something and they got it? That they wanted something from Trump, and they got it from Trump? That, regardless of what he said or how many times he said it, he _did_ what they’d hoped he would _do?_

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/388 "2024-12-31T03:49:47Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> That they wanted something from Trump, and they got it from Trump? That, regardless of what he said or how many times he said it, he _did_ what they’d hoped he would _do?_

A _something_ that Trump continues to deny he actually gave them or did.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/389 "2024-12-31T04:03:17Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> A _something_ that Trump continues to deny he actually gave them or did.

So?

Look, if I were a single-issue voter, and you were to tell me that Candidate A will deliver on it, and that Candidate B _won’t,_ then you’d have my full attention, because that’d be _very_ interesting to me. And if you go on to add that Candidate A will deny having done it, sure as Candidate B _won’t actually do it,_ then I’m going to slowly raise an eyebrow and maybe check my wristwatch and perhaps even tap my foot as I keep waiting for you to say a _second_ interesting thing, because that sure as heck wasn’t it; you already _said_ the interesting part, and then you went on to say some other stuff.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/390 "2024-12-31T04:10:10Z")

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Except Trump, by his own admission, didn’t deliver what was desired.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/391 "2024-12-31T04:35:09Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Except Trump, by his own admission, didn’t deliver what was desired.

Again, if I were a single-issue voter, the question would be whether he _did_ deliver: not whether _he_ admits it, but whether _I’m_ willing to, uh, admit it. And if I’m convinced that he in fact delivered — and that the other candidate wouldn’t have delivered — then, what, the choice was between getting what I wanted from a guy who won’t admit it, and _not getting what I wanted?_

If he didn’t deliver, but falsely ‘admitted’ that he did, I’d expect a single-issue voter to be 100% dissatisfied: Trump wouldn’t gain any points with them for that lie; what matters is whether he actually delivers. And if he _does_ actually deliver, but falsely ‘admits’ that he didn’t, then, seriously: isn’t the ‘actually deliver’ part once again the part that _matters?_

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/392 "2024-12-31T18:17:21Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> He also said in that interview that he wanted women who had them to be criminally prosecuted.

Women _are_ being thrown in jail for miscarriages and suspected abortion. Or just denied care until they die. That’s close enough.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/393 "2024-12-31T19:27:22Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> I’m not a theist, but I do sometimes have fantasies of Jesus Christ suddenly appearing right in front of one of these “Christians” and holding them to account for their hatefulness.

Mine is they’re standing before junior Himself who tells them, “No, you putz. That’s not at all what I meant!” before pulling on a big brass lever that opens a trap door.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/394 "2024-12-31T20:19:40Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> How about Tangerine Terrorist?
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> I’ve been calling him the Manchurian Cantaloupe since 2016ish.

Today i came across “Velveeta Voldemort.”

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/395 "2024-12-31T21:21:27Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> Watch it, you could be sued for libel for saying that.

Would that be one of those John Oliver [SLAPP suits](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN8bJb8biZU&t=2s)…?

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/396 "2024-12-31T21:45:22Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Mine is they’re standing before junior Himself who tells them, “No, you putz. That’s not at all what I meant!” before pulling on a big brass lever that opens a trap door.

That works, too.

Here’s a sentiment that Trump and his followers may well start parroting:

[![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:g4kx4imrw24s6tjf2p2x7o25/bafkreidiqnrl2j6d5evqonnlingpbltzalkhadxxax3hzwbqhm7qiqg2jm@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:g4kx4imrw24s6tjf2p2x7o25/bafkreidiqnrl2j6d5evqonnlingpbltzalkhadxxax3hzwbqhm7qiqg2jm@jpeg)

Sounds like them, doesn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/397 "2024-12-31T21:59:23Z")

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I always like “Orange Foolius”, though I did not create it.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2025, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/398 "2025-01-01T04:31:38Z")

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Now _that_ is Goddamn funny!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2025, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/399 "2025-01-01T06:25:15Z")

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I think I will soon start use the word “adminastrophe”.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/400 "2025-01-02T01:06:55Z")

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And the Pulitzer goes to …

[![](https://preview.redd.it/6kgxhmzrsfae1.jpeg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=a422b88bc5f7196525fee44230f2b4bb3a56d582) ](https://preview.redd.it/6kgxhmzrsfae1.jpeg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=a422b88bc5f7196525fee44230f2b4bb3a56d582)

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