# Fuck Trump and his followers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 6, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749 "2024-11-06T01:27:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/161 "2024-11-07T02:12:50Z")
Somehow a whole ton of young people in the late 1960s and early 1970s managed to question how things were going at the time too. How did that happen? If anything, there was more religious participation then than now. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/162 "2024-11-07T02:14:23Z")
Theres a reason it was called “counter-culture”. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/163 "2024-11-07T02:17:36Z")
Still not half the voters in this latest cycle, though, is it? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/164 "2024-11-07T02:23:26Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > Somehow a whole ton of young people in the late 1960s and early 1970s managed to question how things were going at the time too. How did that happen? The thought of being drafted and dying in Vietnam. And remember, post war, lots of those young people went from being hippies to being yuppies. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/165 "2024-11-07T02:34:00Z")
Not the women. Yet many of them participated in questioning the status quo of the time too. And the point is that both men and women managed to make some decisions of their very own, based on info they sought out themselves that didn’t go along with what their government (and in many cases their own parents) wanted them to do. But this isn’t about then anyway, so I’ll drop that. It’s about now. And laziness and willful ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/166 "2024-11-07T12:15:30Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > And the point is that both men and women managed to make some decisions of their very own, based on info they sought out themselves that didn’t go along with what their government (and in many cases their own parents) wanted them to do. The thing is, there are now millions of people in this country who believe they’re doing exactly that. I’m not getting information from the television, I’m getting it from my phone. I’m not getting it from the government expert, I’m getting it from BagelDog91 who seems to have inside information on things that feel right. I’m not listening to the President, I’m listening to renegade outsider Elon Musk, who must know things because he’s a “self-made billionaire who didn’t follow the rules.” I’m not listening to research backed by Big Pharma. I’m doing my own research. I’m independent. I’m centrist. I’m smarter than the sheep on the right and left. That’s why I’m casting an anti-establishment vote for Trump. I know I’m doing something right, because the normies hate me." It’s the same dynamic in play as the 60’s. The main difference is the media environment is 100% captured by corporate interests, augmented by their ability to micro-target propaganda to the specific districts and demographics they need. It also helps that they’ve gutted education to the extent that lots of non-college people have effectively zero media literacy, and the college-educated have so much debt that they can’t afford to take risks in challenging anyone or anything. And lest we put this all on the young people, it’s no accident that a lot of those 60’s warriors with the “all-natural” mindset are lining up to support Robert F. Kennedy. In many ways Trump is the symmetrical closing arc to the plot of the 60’s. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/167 "2024-11-07T12:40:45Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > And laziness and willful ignorance. That and racism and bigotry. Trump has allowed these people to show them selves for who they are. They want to be bullies too, they ADMIRE that SOB. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/168 "2024-11-07T13:12:53Z")
Thanks for the pitting. The world I want to see involves us putting aside old tribal instincts and superstitions and working together; using our intellect, to solve problems in objective reality. When humans do this, it’s a beautiful thing and nothing can stop us. Trump and MAGA is the polar opposite of all this, being built entirely on lies, ignorance and hate. And a majority of American voters have decided that that is the world they want to see. It’s an unimaginable step backwards for progress and America. I am going to have to avoid American politics for the next 4 years, there is going to be a non-stop succession of the worst possible people being granted absolute power and injustices around every corner. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/169 "2024-11-07T13:30:50Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > Trump could announce he well intends to become a US dictator and his supporters would say “welllllll… maybe it’s not such a bad idea.” It’s like half this country has developed some weird Stockholm Syndrome with this guy. No. They are not his victims. They are his co-conspirators. There would be no Trump without them. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/170 "2024-11-07T14:46:58Z")
I think this is the appropriate place for a DOA bootleg - Pierre’s Maggie never looked so classy. [[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/OqzGaB9.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/EeT8je3) ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/171 "2024-11-07T15:59:02Z")
I don’t want to look like too much like a naive simpleton, but is anyone even going to bother sentencing trump for his 34 convictions? What was the point? The paranoid part of my brain says the democratic DOJ was “in on” the destruction of this country just as much. Four years and none of the big fish were ever even charged! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/172 "2024-11-07T16:03:40Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > I don’t want to look like too much like a naive simpleton, but is anyone even going to bother sentencing trump for his 34 convictions? > > What was the point? It is a quandary. The argument that “a sitting president can’t be charged with a crime” doesn’t really hold, because he’s not a sitting president yet and the trial is already over bar the imminent sentencing. But I’m sure it will all go away quietly like every other remaining vestige of justice and decency the country is still barely clinging to. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/173 "2024-11-07T16:07:02Z")
Curious that the OP didn’t add a fuck you to all of the Democrats in swing states that sat home and didn’t vote. Then again, the OP thinks Vermont is a red state Re: Phil Scott > [@Awful yet predictable consequences of anti-abortion legislation omnibus thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awful-yet-predictable-consequences-of-anti-abortion-legislation-omnibus-thread/969787/54): > > Sure have. Pro choice, pro equal eights, anti–Trump…and **probably the only reason he runs as a Republican is because a Democrat can’t win there**. emphasis added so I question his political acuity regarding political parties and voting. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/174 "2024-11-07T16:15:37Z")
They are going to rule his sentence suspended until his term is over, which means he will never be sentenced. This is due to a memo in the justice department dating back to Nixion. It’s never been tried legally and will not be now. They are still operating within the current normal rules for the next 3 months. After inauguration day we are all fucked, this country just elected a dictator, it’s over. Nothing matters any more, no rule of law nothing. They are coming out bold on twitter now. It’s going to be bad, and I tried to warn people. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/175 "2024-11-07T17:32:17Z")
Cassandra had it easy. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/176 "2024-11-07T18:15:17Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > After inauguration day we are all fucked, this country just elected a dictator, it’s over. Nothing matters any more, no rule of law nothing. I would normally consider this to be a gross exaggeration, and calmly point out our system of checks and balances. But seeing how the Senate, SCOTUS, and (likely the) House will be under GOP/conservative control, it is very possible we’re truly fucked. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/177 "2024-11-07T18:40:51Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > After inauguration day we are all fucked, this country just elected a dictator, it’s over. Nothing matters any more, no rule of law nothing. So I don’t own a gun… Do you suggest I use a noose? I don’t know what kind of poison I can get my hands on… I guess I’ll have to sedate the kids first anyway… ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/178 "2024-11-07T18:47:42Z")
Remember the 3 "F"s Front lawn Face up Feet together > [@Leaper](#): > > I guess I’ll have to sedate the kids first anyway Tend to them before yourself Use a calm tone of voice **Infants & pets** The littlest patriots ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/179 "2024-11-07T19:47:29Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Curious that the OP didn’t add a fuck you to all of the Democrats in swing states that sat home and didn’t vote. I’ve been shouting this around the house. (I had to wait until I got home from helping run our election site on Tuesday…I could tell something was up when not many people voted in person during the evening hours. Obviously we don’t look or know _how_ anyone voted until we push that button on the machine after polls close, but I could tell. Our purple county ended up leaning toward Harris, but not nearly enough.) Anyway, here you go: **“FUCK YOU to all the Democrats in swing states that sat home and didn’t vote!”** ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749/180 "2024-11-07T21:20:24Z")
Bernie Sanders can get fucked as well. Pompous twat. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-trump-and-his-followers/1009749.md?page=10)