# Fuck Vista!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 13, 2008, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442 "2008-09-13T15:16:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442/41 "2008-09-14T19:45:30Z")

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> [@Collaborator](#):
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> I openly encourage people that hate Vista to buy Macs. Why? Because they’re all fucking retards at this point.
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> Hardware problems? Maybe you should get something that doesn’t suck. If your computer was made in mid 2007 or earlier, then you should be using windows 3.1 or some shit. Anything with less than 2GB of ram, or that says “Pentium 4 inside” on it, is shit third world starving african children would laugh at.
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> \<snip\>

I bought my computer in early 2006 (because my old one, which was several years older, died) and it runs Windows XP just fine. I am looking into getting more RAM for it now, because I’m getting some games that recommend more memory that I currently have, but other than that I’m perfectly satisfied with its performance. So why should I go out and buy a new computer just to accommodate a new OS which I have no intention of buying?

For that matter, what’s with this whole “you need to buy a new computer every couple of years” mindset that some people have? Yes, I know prices have been coming down, and I could get a faster machine with more RAM and a bigger hard drive for about what I paid for my current computer. But I have better things I can be spending that money on, like books, DVDs, games or maybe even food. I have a 180G hard drive that has 150G of free space, so I don’t need the extra space. I don’t know how 2.19GHz compares with current speeds, but it seems to do the job okay.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442/42 "2008-09-14T19:52:08Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Again I must ask why persons use “fuck x” as an insult or invective. Fucking is generally a good thing.

I’ve wondered that.

Perhaps it’s a less controversial way of saying “Rape Vista” “Gangrape it in the Ass”

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442/43 "2008-09-14T21:10:02Z")

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> [@Dead\_Badger](#):
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> No. I was providing someone with something I thought they might find helpful, to be taken or left accordingly. Crazy shit in a computer thread, I know. When will I learn?

My “Are you fucking kidding me?” was directed not at the assistance you offered others, but rather at what I perceived was a defense of Vista’s inherent shittiness.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442/44 "2008-09-14T21:33:58Z")

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Pointing out a possible solution does not imply that the problem does not exist (quite the reverse, I’d have thought). Perhaps you ought to read less angrily.

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**Author:** ![Convict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Convict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Convict)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442/45 "2008-09-15T03:02:08Z")

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> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#):
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> Fuck Vista! \<Snip\> Fuck Vista!

Your “Fuck Vista” button is stuck. Maybe you should switch to a Mac…

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**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442/46 "2008-09-15T03:44:41Z")

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> [@Convict](#):
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> Your “Fuck Vista” button is stuck. Maybe you should switch to a Mac…

Maybe hes on a Mac…

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**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442/47 "2008-09-15T06:01:17Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Again I must ask why persons use “fuck x” as an insult or invective. Fucking is generally a good thing.

Try telling my wife that.

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442/48 "2008-09-15T07:56:48Z")

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> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#):
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> And this is where the above poster reveals what tool che is
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> I was wrong **This** is truely where poster reveals what a tool che is

Guevara?

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442/49 "2008-09-15T10:19:18Z")

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> [@BlackKnight](#):
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> But the increased stability and security of Vista aren’t noticeable in the short-term, especially since XP wasn’t bad in those areas.

Having Vista crash so bad that (on Microsoft advice) I had reload the OS four times from scratch in the first 8 months is, yanno, a tad noticeable. Just a little. Did catch my attention rather. Sorta made me sit up and take notice. The fact that the cause of one uber crash was (what turned out to be) a bug in Microsoft’s own SP1 instal pack when first released was very reassuring.

It does seem to be basically stable now. I’m hoping this is because of updates and not luck. That’s the problem with disastrous, random interval faults: they destroy all trust. I can’t use the laptop for anything crucial, and I haven’t even bothered getting everything all set up the way I like it because I’ve done that three times already and it gets old. I guess if it doesn’t freak out for another couple of months I’ll take a deep breath and call it “reliable” and put some time into it.

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442/50 "2008-09-15T12:04:42Z")

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> [@Dead\_Badger](#):
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> Pointing out a possible solution does not imply that the problem does not exist (quite the reverse, I’d have thought). Perhaps you ought to read less angrily.

Perhaps. Nonetheless, in a thread where other posters are referring to each other as “fucking retards” and “mother fucking idiots”, I feel that my outrage has been quite temperate. Obviously YMMV.

Oh, and fuck Vista.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442/51 "2008-09-15T13:06:48Z")

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> [@neutron\_star](#):
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> Guevara?

It’s a gender neutral pronoun I made up several years ago, because you just don’t know on the internet. It’s handy. Try it.  
No slur’s intended on Che Guevara’s gender specificness.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442/52 "2008-09-15T15:08:11Z")

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> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#):
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> It’s a gender neutral pronoun I made up several years ago, because you just don’t know on the internet. It’s handy. Try it.  
> No slur’s intended on Che Guevara’s gender specificness.

I think the word is “specificitiness”.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442/53 "2008-09-15T15:19:52Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I think the word is “specificitiness”.

huh?

edit: nvm I get it lol

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**Author:** ![GawnFishin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9bcb4/32.png) [@GawnFishin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GawnFishin)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442/54 "2008-09-15T17:41:28Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> Fuck _Asus_?! Oh shit, what’s going on? I’ve been using Asus in my builds for years, mainly because of their (consistent) reputation for reliability. Has something changed?

That’s what I considered in making the switch from Gigabyte.

> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> I just built my first real Linux box on a P5KPL and had problems with the onboard LAN, but an old NIC and a post to the [Ubuntu forums](http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=881156) got me straightened out. That didn’t seem like an Asus problem, but did I miss something?
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> Everyone has bad boards from time to time, is there some pattern out there?

Seems to be at least with the M3A, the best I could get was about two minutes use of the onboard before the system froze. I’m going back to Gigabyte.

> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> Oh, and fuck Vista. I have XP, it runs stably – any reason to upgrade? Isn’t Vista going the way of ME: a short support span before being replaced with a newer, (better) OS?

[I don’t know but Bill did adjust his shorts.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SiBBi35zKY)

> [@Give me some mundane skills to learn](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-some-mundane-skills-to-learn/463569/9):
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> Again I must ask why persons use “fuck x” as an insult or invective. Fucking is generally a good thing.

Sorry I just can’t see fucking a motherboard as being particularly pleasant.

> [@Lobsang](#):
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> I’ve wondered that.
> 
> Perhaps it’s a less controversial way of saying “Rape Vista” “Gangrape it in the **Ass** ”

You misspelt Asus.😃

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442/55 "2008-09-15T17:42:49Z")

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> [@GawnFishin](#):
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> Sorry I just can’t see fucking a motherboard as being particularly pleasant.

No, but presumably the motherboard enjoys it.

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**Author:** ![GawnFishin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9bcb4/32.png) [@GawnFishin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GawnFishin)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442/56 "2008-09-15T18:08:31Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> No, but presumably the motherboard enjoys it.

I don’t know, maybe if it consents. But I’m not sure if it would consent to a “gangrape” as **Lobsang** suggests. Maybe it’s one of those masochistic type motherboards…Hold on we’re talking Asus here so your probably right. 😃

Sorry I got nothing.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442/57 "2008-09-15T18:22:52Z")

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I got pissed at XP after one too many unnecessary authorizations and jumped to Linux. Linux proved to be unusable, both due to crashing and the inability to run programs and games easily. I went back to XP, and I wonder why I ever left. (I’ll probably remember next time I upgrade the computer…) I’ll never touch Vista, though. No thank you.

I have to admit, though, the Mojave Experiment commercials are a bit of genius.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442/58 "2008-09-15T18:24:58Z")

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> [@GawnFishin](#):
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> I don’t know, maybe if it consents. But I’m not sure if it would consent to a “gangrape” as **Lobsang** suggests. Maybe it’s one of those masochistic type motherboards…Hold on we’re talking Asus here so your probably right. 😃
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> Sorry I got nothing.

:: pauses to read incoming text message ::

My Uncle Lucifer has asked me to inform you that, as of your last post, you are officially going to hell.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442/59 "2008-09-15T18:46:28Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> No, but presumably the motherboard enjoys it.

you mother(board) fucker.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vista/463442/60 "2008-09-15T18:49:48Z")

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> [@Fuji](#):
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> Perhaps. Nonetheless, in a thread where other posters are referring to each other as “fucking retards” and “mother fucking idiots”, I feel that my outrage has been quite temperate.

That’s as may be (although you’ll notice that at no point did _I_ use any such language). I just feel that if certain people didn’t operate on a principle of Maximum Apoplexy, these computer threads might be considerably less stupid. Vista has annoyances, XP has annoyances (which we’re more used to), Linux has annoyances, OSX has annoyances. So why do all these threads end up with people acting as though someone disagreeing with them re: OS choice is like being cockslapped in the face by a syphilitic gibbon? (Edit: this is more of a general question, rather than aimed specifically at you.)

Guess what, incidentally? There’s a blog called [Motherboard I’d Like To…](http://mbilf.com/)

You really can find everything on the internet.

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