# Fuck Vladimir Putin **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion\ **Created:** [March 1, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284 "2022-03-01T14:52:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2022, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284/41 "2022-03-03T22:10:09Z")
[The big stinking tin-pot\* is still pushing the “neo-Nazi” angle.](https://abc7news.com/russia-ukraine-war-live-updates-vladamir-putin-invading-news/11617151/) \*pronounce the surname with three syllables. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2022, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284/42 "2022-03-04T05:19:34Z")
Now the New York Times and other news outlets are reporting that the Lukoil board of directors have issued a statement calling for immediate cessation of hostilities. If Putin’s losing the oil oligarchs how much longer can he last? ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2022, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284/43 "2022-03-04T05:20:37Z")
Regardless of how this war ends, I sincerely hope the sanctions continue as long as Putin is in power… and continue as long as there’s a dictator in Russia. And the same goes for other dictators. This has got to stop. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2022, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284/44 "2022-03-04T15:09:56Z")
The scumbag addresses the nation today; let’s hope he doesn’t go spewing anything along the lines of… > **[Vladimir Putin may declare martial law in Russia. Here's what it would mean...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/03/03/martial-law-russia-vladimir-putin/9360852002/)** > > As the invasion of Ukraine grinds on and unrest grows in Russia, Putin may declare martial law to crack down on opposition to the incursion. I think he’s backing himself into a corner if does. Considering all the protesting I’m seeing already from Russia’s citizens, it’s possible (just maybe, not that I’d put _huge_ amounts of money on it) that Putin could be in for a bit of a surprise if he does declare martial law. Heh, one can dream. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284/45 "2022-03-04T15:12:59Z")
They seem to be heading that way. They just passed a law making it a crime for Russians to report on the Russian invasion in a way that goes against the official line. [Cite](https://www.snopes.com/ap/2022/03/04/russian-lawmakers-approve-prison-for-fake-war-reports/). ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2022, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284/46 "2022-03-04T16:24:40Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > They seem to be heading that way. They just passed a law making it a crime for Russians to report on the Russian invasion in a way that goes against the official line. I think most Russians are going to understand _exactly_ what that means. The war is not going well, and the official line is bullshit. The Russian public is not stupid. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2022, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284/47 "2022-03-05T01:17:01Z")
So as it relates to all of the pulling out and the quitting of partnerships with Russia, we’re (U.S.) still full partners with the space station, right? I realize that you can’t just pull the plug on that while it’s up there zipping around, but we’re still kind of best friends in that endevor, right? I mean, we should stop that. When we can. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2022, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284/48 "2022-03-05T02:57:11Z")
Glad ya asked! NOPE! > **[Russian space program chief says US sanctions could 'destroy' International...](https://www.space.com/roscosmos-rogozin-russia-iss-space-sanctions)** > > 'Do you want to destroy our cooperation on the ISS?' ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2022, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284/49 "2022-03-05T03:02:53Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > If Putin’s losing the oil oligarchs how much longer can he last? Although I heard a commentator on NPR say that it is unclear the extent to which Putin needs the oligarchs versus the oligarchs need to Putin. As he said Putin’s response to “You just cost me 100 million dollars!” might be “Well do you want to keep the 200 million you’ve still got?” ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2022, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284/50 "2022-03-05T03:08:02Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > As he said Putin’s response to “You just cost me 100 million dollars!” might be “Well do you want to keep the 200 million you’ve still got?” How in the _hell_ did one man manage to amass so much power? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2022, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284/51 "2022-03-05T03:22:54Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > As he said Putin’s response to “You just cost me 100 million dollars!” might be “Well do you want to keep the 200 million you’ve still got?” Yeah. Combine being able to say “may I remind you any sort of real rule of law means _ **you** _ lose” with having filled the entities that can _ **take** _ the wealth and even lives of even the richest in the land, with absolutely obedient henchmen (and why the latter, is simple: “will no one rid me of this troublesome spook?” No, if they know that getting rid of him means whoever comes next will take _ **you** _ down hard too for having been a part of it to begin with.) ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2022, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284/52 "2022-03-05T03:31:42Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Although I heard a commentator on NPR say that it is unclear the extent to which Putin needs the oligarchs versus the oligarchs need to Putin. I heard someone on NPR yesterday saying that the oligarchs were really “trustees” of Putin’s, and he was the one who really exercised the full control over their assets. Same guy? ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2022, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284/53 "2022-03-05T03:49:49Z")
From that ISS article: > “If you block cooperation with us, who will save the ISS from an unguided deorbit to impact on the territory of the U.S. or Europe?” Rogozin wrote. “There’s also the chance of impact of the 500-ton construction in India or China.” Just in case you were thinking Putin is the craziest motherfucker in Russia. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2022, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284/54 "2022-03-05T07:29:57Z")
Have you not been watching the Republican party in the US over the last seven years or so? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2022, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284/55 "2022-03-05T18:22:11Z")
It’s complicated. Russian oligarchs that are critical of Putin or deemed too westward looking are likely to lose their assets, their freedom and possibly their life as they become the victims of a quasi-legal corruption investigation. Shortly after Putin came to power, he made an example of an oligarch named Michael Khodorkovsky, this gifted article will give you an idea of how it works. > **[Who Fears a Free Mikhail Khodorkovsky? (Published 2009)](https://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/22/magazine/22khodorkovsky-t.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuomT1JKd6J17Vw1cRCfTTMQmqxCdw_PIxftm3ieva3HMDmwYiOEcDIGS-kHAIvA5ZNs00zOBR9hfK7w-AeA0zvNaOwYlbTiUlaa-ucZPJTQp-8X0V3kq3pnJUPdhoDTnNWDhIaJ2muTn-k-PbTL1UfTe1GlwLFphpsNkdlD6jSMY1-ySRL4Or9p01fklAZ15TS5RJ3XZ-qm1VGgtfYmOfRre6QIpWutGWD21nd-U67oIdAk6GkuRBTokoj56sIUATYtRaKXvLBcge978hKETDwFrJYSqB542Q-vEhidhngqtSOueG1Nnjh8VDUM&smid=url-share)** > > How did Russia’s richest oligarch become the last best hope of its human rights campaigners? Putin did something similar to an American businessman named Bill Browder, an investor that purchased several Russian companies, with the intent of running them as profitable businesses. He was caught up in a Kafkaesque nightmare where a legal paper trail was created that essentially transferred his companies to different ownership, then the fraudulent owners committed tax fraud and Browder was blamed for it. This incident was behind the Magnitsky Act sanctions. He wrote a book about it called **Red Notice** , that book was what piqued my interest in the subject of Russian corruption. However, with the eyes of the world on Putin. I’m not sure he could successfully “pull a Khodorkovsky” on multiple oligarchs at the same time. He might try, though…because Putin is a gangster at heart. Ask Robert Kraft, who’s missing one of his Super Bowl rings ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2022, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284/56 "2022-03-05T18:59:45Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > He might try, though…because Putin is a gangster at heart. Ask Robert Kraft, who’s missing one of his Super Bowl rings If anyone deserves to be robbed by Putin, it’s Robert Kraft. Fuck that guy, too. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2022, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284/57 "2022-03-05T19:34:29Z")
I’m glad I’m not the only one thinking along those lines. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2022, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284/58 "2022-03-05T22:22:43Z")
> **[Opinion | Kraft's arrest shows how little we understand about sex trafficking...](https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna976361)** > > The case of the Patriots' owner highlights how many people don't see the trafficking victims before their own eyes. Yeah, to Hell with Kraft. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2022, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284/59 "2022-03-05T23:15:47Z")
Now Russian airstrikes have destroyed a railway line near Kyiv, this severely inhibiting a refugee exit path. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284/60 "2022-03-06T02:34:06Z")
I’m thinking that Putin is either thinking about hostages or ethnic cleansing. Both of which make him an asshole. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-vladimir-putin/960284.md?page=4)