# Fuck you (again), Mark David Chapman **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 9, 2000, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-again-mark-david-chapman/44703 "2000-12-09T00:02:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2000, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-again-mark-david-chapman/44703/21 "2000-12-09T21:57:23Z")
Mark David Chapman deserves the extreme penalty of this society. However, he deserves this not because John Lennon was beloved by millions of people, especially millions of idealistic leftists, but because he murdered a man who had done him no wrong in an especially cowardly fashion and he had a record of past abusive behavior. FWIW, John Lennon was shot on my 21st birthday. What a bummer. ---
**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2000, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-again-mark-david-chapman/44703/22 "2000-12-09T23:01:21Z")
Point taken, woodstock. But the issue still stands for Origato et al. ---
**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2000, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-again-mark-david-chapman/44703/23 "2000-12-09T23:23:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eutychus55 \* > \*\*I can’t help but marvel at the irony of people who want Mark David Chapman dead as much as he wanted Lennon dead. \*\* Thank you Euty… And also threemae… Of course the real victim in all this is Darby Crash. sigh ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2000, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-again-mark-david-chapman/44703/24 "2000-12-10T00:26:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pricciar \* > \*\*No talent? > He was a good shot, wasn’t he? > \*\* Not if you consider he was trying to do a service by shooting Yoko Ono and MISSED. ---
**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2000, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-again-mark-david-chapman/44703/25 "2000-12-10T00:41:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pepperlandgirl \* > \*\*I fucking hate that stupid fucking jerk! > GODDAMMIT! > FUCK! > And FUCK YES this thread would be here if he killed Ringo. We LIKE Ringo! > FUCK! > FUCK! > FUCK! > > There, now I feel better. > \*\* Nice post Pep, now if MDC would have done this instead of getting a gun, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. If more people would just vent and not resort to violence, the world would be a better place. Imagine if you can. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2000, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-again-mark-david-chapman/44703/26 "2000-12-10T03:05:57Z")
> [@](#): > > quote: > > ``` > Originally posted by threemae > Yes, bloodthirsty mobs, revenge, and vioence that's what the Beatles stood > for. > > God, you people really are pretty goddamed special. > Just to be fair, I don't think we ALL said we'd like for him to die. Some of us (such as myself and > pepperlandgirl) just wanted to say "fuck you" to MDC. That's as far with it as I'm going. > > ``` THank you woodstock. I don’t advocate the death penalty for any person for any crime. Not even that fucking fuck off rat-bastard. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Zero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Saint\_Zero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Zero)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2000, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-again-mark-david-chapman/44703/27 "2000-12-10T06:08:39Z")
It’s so ironic to see people who on one hand love a man whose music reflected love peace and harmony, then turn around and spew nothing but hate and anger and outrage, and even murderous thoughts at the man who killed him. Gosh. Lennon’s dead. Hating his killer **NOW** isn’t goign to do any good. Show’s over, people. MDC is in jail, enjoying his popularity that he’s earned in his own twisted manner. You’re right. In one sense, I don’t care simply because the beatles music never appealed to me. It happens. In another sense, I think it was stupid to kill him, simply because of the few documantaries I’ve seen of Lennon’s life that didn’t adopt the worshipful tones I’ve seen lately, he seemed to be finally getting his life on track. It was senseless, and that I deplore. But the irony of seeing people hating his killer so much is irrestiable. 🙂 [sub]Heck, I still don’t like Led Zepplin[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2000, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-again-mark-david-chapman/44703/28 "2000-12-10T06:19:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by oldscratch \* > > Of course the real victim in all this is Darby Crash. > sigh \*\* RIP, Darby. We hardly knew ye. ---
**Author:** ![ElwoodCuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/edb3f5/32.png) [@ElwoodCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElwoodCuse)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2000, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-again-mark-david-chapman/44703/29 "2000-12-12T06:21:02Z")
[denis leary quote ON] John Lennon, takes six bullets in the chest, Yoko Ono, standing right next to him, NOT ONE FUCKING BULLET! Explain it to me, God! [denis leary quote OFF] Also the Cranberries have a song “I Just Shot John Lennon”. ---
**Author:** ![Ablett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/278dde/32.png) [@Ablett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ablett)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2000, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-again-mark-david-chapman/44703/30 "2000-12-12T12:35:25Z")
That guy was a drug-taking, adulterating crowd spitter. Yeah, ok, he had some TALENT with music. Does that make him super-human? No. Does that make him sub-human? No. It makes him human. His life was no more important then a Kosavar who was massacred by Milosevic’s men. ---
**Author:** ![LateComer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b5ac83/32.png) [@LateComer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LateComer)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2000, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-again-mark-david-chapman/44703/31 "2000-12-12T14:47:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ablett \* > \*\*That guy was a drug-taking, adulterating crowd spitter. Yeah, ok, he had some TALENT with music. Does that make him super-human? No. Does that make him sub-human? No. It makes him human. His life was no more important then a Kosavar who was massacred by Milosevic’s men. > > \*\* You’re right. So right. Fuck you Milosovec! Fuck you and your goddam Nazi death troops! I hope you die a long, torturous death for what you did to those Kosavars! Fuck you. Fuck each bullet in a Kosavar body. Fuck each soldier who raped a Kosavar woman. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Oh, and by the way, Fuck the rest of the world’s murderers for taking precious lives from the world. There’s not one of you who are fit to lick the boots of the families left behind after your crimes. Thanks, Ablett for bringing some perspective to this discussion. And thank you Mark David Chapman for being our effigy. And fuck you too. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-again-mark-david-chapman/44703.md?page=1)