# Fuck YOU America, Fuck you. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 28, 2003, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456 "2003-12-28T21:42:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/41 "2003-12-29T05:49:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by London\_Calling \* > \*\*no one gets CJD or mad cows disease from grass. \*\* Doh! really? :rolleyes: I was refering to the practice of using cows to feed cows, something IMO that should had to be banned the moment MCD was dicovered. It´s not like stopping to feed them with processed fellow ovines would change their natural diet; is much simpler to keep feeding the beast with what they´re supposed to eat than worring about OUR food killing us in a rather horrible way. To clear things, it seems to me that eliminating MCD is not so difficult, there´s no need for extensive vacination; just stop feeding the cows with other cows! ---
**Author:** ![IWLN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@IWLN](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IWLN)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/42 "2003-12-29T05:56:32Z")
Washington State here. We love Canadians, aye. Our newspapers were not pointing fingers. They admitted that the animal had lived here for 2 years. There is a U.S. vet at the border that inpects the cows as they come in and I haven’t seen anyone jumping to any conclusions that Canada did something wrong. I understand this is really a huge deal to Canada who has not been allowed to export meat to the U.S. for awhile now. It’s reasonable for you to be upset over this. But, could you narrow your anger down to the agencies that are blocking commerce. As Americans, most are oblivious to the problem and the rest of us are sympathetic. If we don’t solve this before the next hockey game, it could be bad.😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/43 "2003-12-29T05:58:01Z")
I think there´s a small possibility that I have read that last prhase the wrong way… :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Age\_Quod\_Agis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d07c76/32.png) [@Age\_Quod\_Agis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Age_Quod_Agis)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/44 "2003-12-29T06:28:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*friedo \* > Laughing? In The BBQ Pit?! > > **Outrageous!** > > Why, I’m going to start a Pit thread… A good point. Mods, please amend my prior post to include the phrase “Cram a hockey stick in it, you cow-maddening non-Americans.” I only hope it’s not too late for my inflammatory, irrational addendum to restore the spirit of the Pit. Perhaps if we all work together in chest beating and rhetorical eye-gouging, the Pit will continue to serve us in the manner that to which we have all grown accustomed. Fuck you, everybody that’s not me. Fuck you good. ---
**Author:** ![Flymaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c4cdca/32.png) [@Flymaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flymaster)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/45 "2003-12-29T07:31:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Obsidian Flutterby \* > \*\*It may have initially come from here… but it still seems like the US is blaming Canada. > \*\* But don’t you see that if, in fact, it came from Canada, then it is Canada’s fault that it has BSE, and, to whatever degree someone can be blamed, that someone is in Canada, and not in the US? Saying that the US is “blaming” Canada by stating the fact that the cow was likely infected with the disease IN Canada is totally irrational. They (we?) are just stating a fact, and making no value judgements. If, in fact, the cow does turn out to be 6 or so years old, and it came from Alberta, where the other BSE cow was found, that seems to be a good thing for both the US and Canadian beef industries: it means that it was infected before, not after, the feed bans were put into place, and that, as far as we know, those bans have not demonstrably failed, yet. It’s not “fuck you”-able to state a fact, and stating that the US thinks the cow came from Canada is a fact. Hell, the Canadian government even says that it’s possible. ---
**Author:** ![the\_Lady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@the\_Lady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_Lady)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/46 "2003-12-29T07:51:24Z")
As for **Ale’s** previous question, mad cow has been known to spontaneously occur in some animals. There’s even a variation that infects elk. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/47 "2003-12-29T08:41:56Z")
yes!!! Beef prices will fall?!? (Feed on the fear that doesn’t exist) Atkins diet, here I come! ---
**Author:** ![IWLN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@IWLN](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IWLN)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/48 "2003-12-29T08:54:29Z")
The way I understood it, correct me if I’m wrong Canada, but there is already a ban on beef coming into the U.S. from Canada. But they were hoping to lift that soon and this has caused a delay. Beef prices have increased quite a bit, at least in Washington, since the ban from this past summer. True or false, aye? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/49 "2003-12-29T09:29:20Z")
Satz, what’s the problem if the cow was traced back to Canada? The US isn’t blaiming Canada, just trying to figure out how this happened. Now stop this before we have to invade. ---
**Author:** ![Matchka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Matchka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Matchka)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/50 "2003-12-29T13:41:44Z")
_Matchka makes an inane and unconstructive remark concerning Atkins Diet, Beef prices, American Beef producers, Canadian Beef producers, sabotage, finger pointing, embargos and inflated American Beef prices. After Matchka has his morning coffee, GW Bush will be blamed in the remark_ ---
**Author:** ![CheekyMonkey613](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e480ec/32.png) [@CheekyMonkey613](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheekyMonkey613)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/51 "2003-12-29T14:45:34Z")
**THE DAY THE NEWS BROKE, MY FIANCE AND I SAID, "HOW LONG TIL THEY FIND A WAY TO BLAME CANADA?"** Americans have become SO FUCKING PREDICTABLE, it’s not even funny. It’s funny how the only ones who BELIEVE the shit ARE AMERICANS. Take a look around you. People are LAUGHING at you. You know what strikes me funny? When the “mad cow” situation happened in Alberta, earlier this year, AMERICANS were up here IN A FLASH to figure out how it happened. Thank you so much for your help, LIKE WE COULDN’T DO IT ON OUR OWN. Were the Canadians down there within HOURS to inspect YOUR situation? I think NOT. Right then and there I smelled something fishy. You go on and on about how you’re the “best country in the world”, but when shit goes down in YOUR neighbourhood, all of the sudden there’s finger pointing. (And before you reply saying that you’ve never said that ~ as is always the case, well you’re ONE American. You certainly don’t speak for the majority.) Well I agree. Fuck you America. When it happened to us, you were so fast to spread the news. When it happened to you, you were so fast to point the fucking finger. Assholes. WHY? Cause it will hit your economy. You don’t give a rat’s ass about another country’s economy that you fuck up because it means more dollars IN YOUR FUCKING WALLET. PRICKS. So put it on the fucking UNDERDOG. If you’re the best country in the world, take a fucking hit once in a while. Perfection is impossible. How could it be that AMERICA is ALWAYS right and EVERYONE else is ALWAYS wrong. And NO, it’s not an INFERIORITY complex that Canadians have. It’s seeing things AS THEY ARE. If it was an inferiority complex, people of other nationalities (as my fiance is Australian) wouldn’t think the same way. Rose fucking coloured glasses. That’s your problem. So funny to see people asking: “CITE?” LIKE YOU NEVER FUCKING HEARD A THING ABOUT IT??? UH, HELLO!? I watch American programming through my satellite service. If you haven’t seen it, you’re not on the net, not listening to radio and not watching TV. So don’t ask for a fucking CITE when you’re head is buried so deep in your fucking asses that you can’t see anything but the shit you’ve been fed. UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/52 "2003-12-29T14:52:24Z")
So I guess we can’t try and trace the sources of diseases anymore, since they might lead to other countries and we might hurt their feeling… ---
**Author:** ![Balduran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cc9497/32.png) [@Balduran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balduran)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/53 "2003-12-29T14:56:54Z")
Can somebody explain to me why I should be offended? As a Canadian I’m sure I’m supposed to be, but I’m a little confused on the details. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/54 "2003-12-29T15:01:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CheekyMonkey613 \* > \*\ ***THE DAY THE NEWS BROKE, MY FIANCE AND I SAID, "HOW LONG TIL THEY FIND A WAY TO BLAME CANADA?"** > > \*\* Did you **both** say that? In unison? When you spoke did all the other Canadians around you start to say the same thing? I gotta visit your place. It must be fun to watch all the Canadians speak at the same time. Bubba Is _ **that** _ caused by kissing beavers? ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/55 "2003-12-29T15:06:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Balduran \* > \*\*Can somebody explain to me why I should be offended? As a Canadian I’m sure I’m supposed to be, but I’m a little confused on the details. \*\* **Balduran** , You should be offended if you are a Canadian cattle rancher and you beleive that: 1- The MCD news report linking Canada as a source was wrong --------------------- **and** ---------------------- 2 - That news report cost you money Otherwise you could be like **CheekyMonkey613** and suffer from a case of _Florida envy_ Bubba ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/56 "2003-12-29T15:17:39Z")
While we are at it, its time for a roll call of those responsible for the following: Dutch Elm Disease Asian Flu Montezuma’s revenge Dengue fever Vegemite (OK, I threw that in, but someone needs to take abuse for it) Come on in and take your ass whoopin’ with a good old American Elm switch! I think we should pull all our ebola researchers out of the Congo and send them to Alaska and Nunavat. The Congolese are being oppressed by the big bad Americans! Every time I hear about Ebola in the papers it’s “Congo, Congo, Congo”. Give it a rest! ---
**Author:** ![TeaElle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@TeaElle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaElle)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/57 "2003-12-29T15:19:15Z")
Why the hell do you people think that the **Canadian** beef industry is going to take the bigger hit from this than the U.S. industry, which is considerably larger and supplies the lion’s share of meat within the states? People in America are avoiding beef already. That’s American beef, not Canadian. Last night as I grocery shopped, it was as if the beef section had a Star Trek-esque force field around it, keeping people from approaching. Now maybe it was just because everyone wanted pork for new year’s, but it was eerie to see how bustling the meat department was with everyone walking around the beef like it was going to reach up out of its plastic packaging and insert deadly prions into shoppers’ brains via their ears or something. The simple fact remains that when you are trying to control the spread of a disease, one of the important steps is pinpointing the disease’s place of origin. If that cow came from Canada, that gives a basis for determining if this is a widespread problem, a growing problem or if its confined to one or two locations which weren’t following feeding precautions. It has nothing to do with indicting Canada or blaming Canada or even blaming the one or two ranches or livestock agribusinesses which screwed up, it’s about protecting the public from a deadly, horrific disease **and** protecting the beef industry – in both countries – by making it clear to the public that proactive steps are being taken to make sure that this doesn’t happen again. Now if you complainers could climb down off of your crosses for just a second and take a look at the **truth** of the matter, you’ll see that no one is laying blame, they’re looking for causes and solutions to a problem that doesn’t need to get any worse for consumers of beef or the people who raise the cows from which it comes. ---
**Author:** ![labmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f19dbf/32.png) [@labmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/labmonkey)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/58 "2003-12-29T15:24:38Z")
Is typing in mostly CAPS a sign of THE INFERIORITY COMPLEX or is it CANADIAN CUSTOM? ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/59 "2003-12-29T15:28:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lamar Mundane \* > \*\*…Dengue fever… > > …Come on in and take your ass whoopin’ with a good old American Elm switch!.. > \*\* A) I never did trust those Dengues, so I prefer to call the disease by its proper name, ‘Dandy Fever’! Hell, who _doesn’t_ want to get the ‘Dandy’ fever? B) Given the treacherous Dutch have infected our national Elm switch stockpile with their vile rot, we should probably switch to a safer source for our switch industry. Balsa, maybe? ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/60 "2003-12-29T15:33:47Z")
[quote] _Brutus_ Hell, who doesn’t want to get the ‘Dandy’ fever? [quote] Now you’ve gone and done it. Lawyers from the “Dandy” lobby arriving in 3…2…1… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456.md?page=4)