# Fuck YOU America, Fuck you. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 28, 2003, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456 "2003-12-28T21:42:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/141 "2003-12-31T19:47:32Z")
Yeah, also more conclusive evidence that my stand-up career is dead on arrival. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/142 "2003-12-31T19:56:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cervaise \* > \*\*Clearly, we must immediately begin taking steps to narrow the dickhead gap. \*\* Beautiful… just fuckin’ beautiful. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/143 "2003-12-31T20:51:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jeff Olsen \* > \*\*Well, the US did miss the first three years of WW1 and Canada was in it almost from the beginning. \*\* We shouldn’t get into the goddamn things at all. Twice in the 20th century Europe could not resolve its political differences and had to kill millions of people. Because the United States did not jump in at the start so it could also lose million of soldiers, idiots make stupid comments about it. Yes, Canada was [kicking German ass](http://users.pandora.be/dave.depickere/Text/dieppe.html) before we got there and didn’t need our help. Silly us. If we were smart, we would sit out the next one(there will always be a next one), make some popcorn and watch the show. I place my bet on Germany this time. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/144 "2003-12-31T21:05:44Z")
**The Long Road** , I think you should be educating **CheekyMonkey** , not me. **lno** , at least I recognized you were joking. 🙂 If you want to see posts by someone with a bright future in standup, go lurk at alt.binaries.nospam.toons and watch for MHirtes. ---
**Author:** ![Ray\_Walker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ray\_Walker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ray_Walker)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/145 "2003-12-31T22:15:06Z")
CheekyMonkey, you can yell and scream all you want. It just makes you look like even more of an ignoramus. Are you even capable of rational, calm discussion or am I asking too much? Anytime someone feels a need to SCREAM, the validity of their opinion goes down a few notches. You can say “BUT I NEED TO BE LOUDER SO YOU’LL HEAR ME!!!” all you want, but the fact is, us civilized folk aren’t too impressed by it. Thanks! Also, > [@](#): > > On behalf of Aussies around the world, we would like to thank you for the comic relief youve provided in blaming Canada for your problems. It’s always comforting to see that no matter what goes on in the world, some things NEVER CHANGE. Thank God we’re not neighbours; you’d blame it on the kangaroos and the Crocodile Hunter. Please stop making generalizations about my country. I could say “All Australians hate immigrants and like to lock them in prison indefinitely”, but I don’t. This is because I distinguish the Australian people from the Australian government. Care to follow suit? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/146 "2004-01-01T00:01:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jeff Olsen \* > \*\ ***The Long Road** , I think you should be educating **CheekyMonkey** , not me. > > **lno** , at least I recognized you were joking. 🙂 If you want to see posts by someone with a bright future in standup, go lurk at alt.binaries.nospam.toons and watch for MHirtes. \*\* Jeff, that was in no way directed toward you. Please forgive me for making it look that way. I guess I quoted your post for convenience since I was about to head out when I made my post. I throw myself on your mercy. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/147 "2004-01-01T00:12:44Z")
No problem, just a misunderstanding. ---
**Author:** ![CheekyMonkey613](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e480ec/32.png) [@CheekyMonkey613](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheekyMonkey613)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/148 "2004-01-01T18:48:00Z")
_New Year’s Resolution #2: Be calm in the face of ignorance…_ For all of you telling me to “calm down”, point taken. I will. However, you’ll notice that I haven’t replied since December 29th, and you’re still telling me to calm down. Isn’t the POINT of this site to “fight ignorance”? Definition of “ignorance” at MSN Encarta: 1. lack of knowledge: lack of knowledge or education **2. unawareness: unawareness of something, often of something important** I would guess that it’s all subjective. There’s no right or wrong answers to what is ignorant. I truly believe that the American media who began reporting that the cow came from a Canadian farm was VERY premature. Furthermore, I can’t understand how such savvy people haven’t heard those reports. Furthermore I can’t understand how you don’t think that the ban on exports of your beef (be it only the undisputed 10%) wouldn’t have a significant effect on your country’s economy, and the news that the cow came from Canada wouldn’t alleviate that situation in the least. I believe that what your media has done is the equivalent of “falsely shouting fire in a [crowded] theatre”. See First Amendment. The parallel may be easier seen when you realize what kind of financial gains/losses are at stake. THEREFORE!!! I truly believe that those of you who take the reports at face value, without question (even when American & Canadians authorities’ reports aren’t conclusive), are **IGNORANT**. And I am doing my “duty” here to fight ignorance. If you haven’t heard such reports, which is highly unbelieveable but ok, then WHY ARE YOU REPLYING? If you haven’t heard the reports, then you don’t know! It obviously doesn’t mean they don’t exist. If they didn’t, there wouldn’t be such a numerous amount of replies. Yes, I came off like a flaming mad woman. Guess why? Cause I’m a flaming mad woman when it comes to these things. I can’t understand … no scratch that … I can’t SWALLOW how some people see things that appear so clear to me in SUCH an opposite manner. It also bothers me how the American superiority complex has people so blinded that they can’t see straight. The fact that it was SO PREDICTABLE was even more maddening. As I’ve said before, my fiance and I even JOKED about the mad cow case, saying “How long til they blame Canada?” You know, that South Park skit was really funny. But there’s a little bit of truth in everything that’s funny. What’s not funny is you don’t see that. The fact that America comes ON TOP of everything in the news is “normal” to you and you don’t look further is very disturbing. I would like to underline that I do not speak for all Canadians (just the majority of the ones I know). I apologize if I’ve offended any Americans; I hope you realize it’s nothing personal. However, my opinions remain (mostly) the same, even now in a much calmer state. In closing, I want to make clear that my objections were not because I believed that it was impossible the cow was contaminated in and/or came from Canada. I objected to the fact that it was still undetermined, yet American media was fast to report that it was from Canada (for what I believe are financial and gang-mentality reasons). Even today, though it may appear in the news that it’s a done deal, it isn’t. [Canadian Food Inspection Agency ~ updated yesterday](http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/anima/heasan/disemala/bseesb/americ/caninveste.shtml) January 1, 2004 ~ London Free Press > [@](#): > > [“In regard to linking the animal to the Edmonton plant, I just think it’s too premature in that first they should link (the animal) to Canada, then they can follow the feed through,” said Barry Glotman of West Coast Reduction… The firm owns the rendering plant that has been singled out in reports as the possible source of both cases of bovine spongiform encephalopathy.](http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/LondonFreePress/News/2004/01/01/301527.html) ---
**Author:** ![Ray\_Walker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ray\_Walker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ray_Walker)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/149 "2004-01-01T19:11:30Z")
Fair enough. But that still doesn’t justify throwing a tantrum at people on a message board. The issue at hand is not so significant as to incite raging vitriol, at least not to me. It just rather shocked me to see people get so angry over a relatively minor issue. There’s been a lot of squabbling lately over trade issues and the lumber industry, but still the sheer rage over this seems a bit uncalled for, even with the past issues between the two countries. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/150 "2004-01-01T19:12:52Z")
Backpeddling! ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/151 "2004-01-01T19:26:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CheekyMonkey613 \* > \*\* I apologize if I’ve offended any Americans; I hope you realize it’s nothing personal. However, my opinions remain (mostly) the same, even now in a much calmer state. \*\* [_Comic Book Guy On_] Lamest. “Apology”. Ever. [_Comic Book Guy Off_] So lame, in fact, that it’s not an apology at all. You wanna try again or just continue flinging shit at Americans? ---
**Author:** ![TitoBenito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2acd7d/32.png) [@TitoBenito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TitoBenito)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/152 "2004-01-01T19:28:10Z")
FYI Cheeky: its a usually customary in this country to start your arguments at the beginning of your participation in a thread and then degenerating into name calling, ranDOM CAPITALIZATIONS, and acting utterly stupid after a certain period of time. Doing the process backwards must be a Canadian thing, either that or another trick of the troll trade. ---
**Author:** ![TitoBenito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2acd7d/32.png) [@TitoBenito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TitoBenito)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/153 "2004-01-01T19:31:51Z")
ignore the 4th word of my post . I have no idea why the word “a” is that. I blame Canadians it personally, or possibly Kangaroos. ---
**Author:** ![CheekyMonkey613](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e480ec/32.png) [@CheekyMonkey613](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheekyMonkey613)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/154 "2004-01-01T20:07:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Michael Ellis \* > \*\*Backpeddling! \*\* If that’s backpeddling, I don’t know hun. I’m apologizing for my venom in the messages, not the message. KSO, I’m apologizing to people for taking it PERSONALLY. I don’t know YOU, so I can’t say. But I’ve got a good jist on how your COUNTRY works. So I’m not apologizing to Americans as a group, just to those whom my rants don’t apply to. Sounds to me like they apply to you, so please ignore the apology, as you’ve already done. Tito, I don’t know what the fuck you’re saying, but I don’t think you do either. Are you saying I acted utterly stupidly first, THEN CAPITALIZED RANDOMLY, then name called, then started my arguments? I’m going to assume you’ve got some kind of reading disability and leave it at that. Lastly, I don’t give a flying fuck what’s customary in your ass-backwards country. Ray Walker: I’m not angry over a relatively minor issue. Ask your cattle farmers how minor the issue is that Mad Cow has hit the good Ol’ US of A. It’s not a minor issue to Canadian farmers who have been implicated WAY too prematurely. It’s not minor that your media feeds you feel-good “USA is the best” shit day after day and you believe it. It’s definitely not a tantrum. You haven’t seen my tantrums. It’s FRUSTRATRION with American ignorance. It’s DEFINITELY called for. It’s about time you guys SUCK IT UP when you take a foul instead of manipulating the news to keep up the facade that America is SO great. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/155 "2004-01-01T20:49:53Z")
Gee, what a surprise that the Canadian rendering plant that might be a source of the disease thinks it is premature to blame them. CheekyMonkey, you a gigantic idiot. Sure, Canadian beef exports are being banned. Did you read the fucking news about how American beef exports are also being banned? Did you? Did you? Canada was not implicated prematurely, you moron. Canda was implicated at an appropriate time, that is, when reports came out that the cow was raised in Canada. You are a bed-wetting tantrum thrower. And I blame Canada for raising you–and your kind–and not educating you properly. You fucking child. ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/156 "2004-01-01T22:31:00Z")
So you apologize for being so nasty about your bigotry and hate for America and Americans. Your message that the only good thing about America is a ‘flight out of the country’ remains the same, but you’re apologizing for not saying so in a nice way? Fuck you. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/157 "2004-01-01T22:35:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CheekyMonkey613 \* > \*\*If that’s backpeddling, I don’t know hun. I’m apologizing for my venom in the messages, not the message. KSO, I’m apologizing to people for taking it PERSONALLY. I don’t know YOU, so I can’t say. But I’ve got a good jist on how your COUNTRY works. So I’m not apologizing to Americans as a group, just to those whom my rants don’t apply to. Sounds to me like they apply to you, so please ignore the apology, as you’ve already done. > > Tito, I don’t know what the fuck you’re saying, but I don’t think you do either. Are you saying I acted utterly stupidly first, THEN CAPITALIZED RANDOMLY, then name called, then started my arguments? I’m going to assume you’ve got some kind of reading disability and leave it at that. Lastly, I don’t give a flying fuck what’s customary in your ass-backwards country. > > Ray Walker: I’m not angry over a relatively minor issue. Ask your cattle farmers how minor the issue is that Mad Cow has hit the good Ol’ US of A. It’s not a minor issue to Canadian farmers who have been implicated WAY too prematurely. It’s not minor that your media feeds you feel-good “USA is the best” shit day after day and you believe it. It’s definitely not a tantrum. You haven’t seen my tantrums. It’s FRUSTRATRION with American ignorance. It’s DEFINITELY called for. It’s about time you guys SUCK IT UP when you take a foul instead of manipulating the news to keep up the facade that America is SO great. \*\* Fuck you, fuck your mother, and fuck the moose your mother replaced. Actually, I take back what I said about your mother. She deserved better than you. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/158 "2004-01-01T22:36:58Z")
Oh wait. I apologize. I mean, I still mean all the nasty things I said, but I apologize for not sugar coating them. ---
**Author:** ![IWLN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@IWLN](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IWLN)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/159 "2004-01-01T22:59:53Z")
LA LA LA, I’m **CheekyMonkey613**. I can say whatever I want. I can say “Fuck YOU America” and only be talking to just certain people. LA, LA, LA American ignorance. LA, LA, LA, I know how your country works. Guess what **CheekyMonkey613**. Most of us really don’t care where the cow came from. We do think Americans are superior. You’re an idiot. But I _do_ mean that in a good way.:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Ryle\_Dup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Ryle\_Dup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryle_Dup)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2004, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-america-fuck-you/221456/160 "2004-01-02T02:48:02Z")
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