# Fuck you and your card! (lame!) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 9, 2005, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910 "2005-12-09T18:19:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910/61 "2021-12-21T17:11:35Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > Eat shit, twat! You should get a life! > [@pkbites](#): > > at the Speedway. The dork at the counter > [@pkbites](#): > > Why is Flubadub behind the counter so concerned > [@pkbites](#): > > The slunt at the register My god, you’ve have got to stop shitting all over the cashiers. If you have a problem, take it up with management, send them an email, go shop somewhere else. But cashiers spend so much of their day getting treated like garbage as is, why pile more on them for something they have zero control over? Also, slunt? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910/62 "2021-12-21T17:17:02Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Why do you think I don’t want merchants to make a profit? Did I say that? Your objection to the money savings from loyalty cards is that merchants receive more of a benefit than you do in some way. So effectively you don’t want them to profit, if you are consistent. > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I weigh what I think the benefits are to me versus the demerits and I make a rational decision about what I need and what I’m willing to pay for it. You have yet to make a rational argument as to why you would choose to spend so much more money when shopping. Your argument is that the savings can’t be for your own benefit, because a merchant never does anything for your benefit, only themselves. Which is absurd. I think there can be rational arguments against loyalty cards but that isn’t one. An argument I can see is that if store A sells a gallon of milk for $2 but you can save 50 cents if you use a loyalty card, and store B sells a gallon of milk for $1.50, then you’re better off shopping at store B. And I’d agree with that 100%. Around here I haven’t found that situation but if I did, store B would be where I would choose to shop, certainly. I don’t understand the argument that you would shop at store A and pay the full $2 because you distrust the savings, that you must be losing out in some way that you can’t see. That does not seem rational unless you actually have evidence of what they are doing which is to your disadvantage. Otherwise you’re wasting money out of paranoia. And that’s not even regular paranoia; if you were that mistrustful of the merchant, why are you even shopping there? ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910/63 "2021-12-21T17:17:36Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > > Slunt? > > It’s a term used by assholes to refer to the wage slave having to do the bidding of corporate clowns rather than blaming the management and marketing nitwits that put this kind of shit in place and then insulate themselves from the blowback. In my neck of the woods it’s slut+cunt+bitch. YMMV And I’m sure her corporate masters don’t want her getting shitty with their customers and then talking shitty about them to other customers. I own a sporting goods store. Not only do we not have any such program if any of my employees talked to one of our customers like that, or talked to other employees insinuating a customer was an idiot for not wanting something directly in front of the customer, that employee would be out on their fat ass. And I wouldn’t call the customer an asshole for using a derogatory term to describe such an employee. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910/64 "2021-12-21T17:18:55Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > In my neck of the woods it’s slut+cunt+bitch. YMMV Your neck of the woods is kind of disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910/65 "2021-12-21T17:23:21Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > My god, you’ve have got to stop shitting all over the cashiers. If you have a problem, take it up with management, I certainly am going to. But those who serve the enemy are also the enemy. “You don’t want to join our rewards club? Okay. Let me ring you up” WTH is so hard about that? ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910/66 "2021-12-21T17:23:44Z")
Customers who abuse the folks who work in retail at my job will be invited to shop elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910/67 "2021-12-21T17:25:59Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > > [@Joey\_P](#): > > > > My god, you’ve have got to stop shitting all over the cashiers. If you have a problem, take it up with management, > > I certainly am going to. > > But those who serve the enemy are also the enemy. > > “You don’t want to join our rewards club? Okay. Let me ring you up” > > WTH is so hard about that? - The shit she gets from her manager for letting one get away. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910/68 "2021-12-21T17:27:22Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Your objection to the money savings from loyalty cards is that merchants receive more of a benefit than you do in some way. So effectively you don’t want them to profit, if you are consistent. _Is_ that what I said? “In some way”? Or did I note a specific benefit that I found objectionable? > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > My argument is that I’m simply not interested in helping Business get better at marketing, since marketing is mostly used to separate people from their money unnecessarily. > > Every time you use that card, they get more data. And they share that data with other businesses, so they can refine their algorithms and other tools so they can take more of your money from you. We’re talking about loyalty cards. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910/69 "2021-12-21T17:43:19Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > _Is_ that what I said? “In some way”? Or did I note a specific benefit that I found objectionable? Let me put it this way… If they really think that they are specifically getting more money from _me_ than I’m saving, they’re not, and they failed. I won. Ha ha, take that merchant! I don’t see what they’re doing as anything insidious though. They’re gathering information on a macro level, and I don’t mind that. And on the micro level, they do occasionally print out a coupon they think I will like when they hand me my receipt (and the coupons are always for something I have no interest in, so clearly their algorithm doesn’t work, at least not on me). I’m not seeing a downside anywhere. Certainly not enough of a downside that it’s worth it for me to spend an extra $60 on my shopping trip. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910/70 "2021-12-21T17:46:36Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > Customers who abuse the folks who work in retail at my job will be invited to shop elsewhere. At what point did I abuse that cashier this morning? Politely declining to join the stores stupid rewards program is abuse? Refusing to fill out a card with my personal information is abuse? Firmly saying I am in a hurry when she continually refused to ring up my purchase until I gave her my phone number? Saying I was going to lodge a complaint because she basically told another employee in front of me that I’m stupid for not wanting to sign up for the stores reward cult is abuse? Not liking her shitty attitude and tone of voice is abuse? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910/71 "2021-12-21T18:06:24Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > I firmly told her I was in a hurry and didn’t have time for any of this. You were being an asshole, and a stupid one. “I don’t want to give you my phone number, but here is my credit card that has my phone number, address, and other personal information attached to it.” > [@pkbites](#): > > Firmly saying I am in a hurry when she continually refused to ring up my purchase until I gave her my phone number? Yes, that is abuse. As someone who has done work as a cashier at multiple stores years ago, to me you are being a total prick. I worked at a computer store (and was manager at one point) where we had to keep track of customers in a database. That’s how we kept track of warranties, we could issue refunds even if you lost your receipt as long as your ID matched what we had in the system, and so on. If someone came in and wanted to buy something but didn’t want to cooperate then they don’t have to shop there. As a cashier, I literally would not be able to ring you up. If you actually care about not being an asshole, then you (1) go along with what they want you to do like every other customer, or (2) take your business elsewhere. Going with option (3) which is to self-importantly declare that you are in a hurry and the rules don’t apply to you is the route of the asshole. Especially as you are calling her misogynistic slurs in your head, which is probably leeching out into your tone and demeanor whether you know it or not. > [@pkbites](#): > > “You don’t want to join our rewards club? Okay. Let me ring you up” > > WTH is so hard about that? Employees don’t always have that choice. You say you own a store, clearly you are detached from the reality of what it is to be someone who has to **work** at a store. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910/72 "2021-12-21T18:17:16Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > If you actually care about not being an asshole, then you (1) go along with what they want you to do like every other customer, or (2) take your business elsewhere. Going with option (3) which is to self-importantly declare that you are in a hurry and the rules don’t apply to you is the route of the asshole She wanted my phone number so she could start setting up a rewards membership for me which I repeatedly said I did not want. And she insisted she start setting up this membership before she would ring up my purchase! What rule says I am required to join a rewards program to buy $8 worth of tools? Are you fucking crazy? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910/73 "2021-12-21T18:20:37Z")
My late brother’s Walgreens rewards carries on his legacy to this day, just last week saved me $5. Of course it helped that he used mom’s landline phone number to sign in so any of us can continue just entering that anywhere in the world. Meanwhile when I restarted flying I was not at all amused that the Flight Attendants are still forced to interrupt my audio to sell me the airline-branded credit card. Then again I realize _they_ aren’t either. > [@pkbites](#): > > In my neck of the woods it’s slut+cunt+bitch (Wouldn’t that be “sluntch” then?) But really, dude, you need to ease off on the cashiers. They are _required_ by that management to push the card. And the gender-peyorative variation should be saved for when it’s relevant, if ever. Which I don’t think it would. ---
**Author:** ![omenran](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omenran/32/3318_2.png) [@omenran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omenran)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910/74 "2021-12-21T18:21:13Z")
> [@lobotomyboy63](#): > > The years of purchases amounted to 30 cents per gallon discount, but just once. I think that both Kroger and Albertsons/Safeway cards and their gas discounts expire after a couple months. > [@pkbites](#): > > In my neck of the woods it’s slut+cunt+bitch. YMMV What a disgusting term your neck of woods uses. Or any where/one that uses it. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910/75 "2021-12-21T18:26:27Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Meanwhile when I restarted flying I was not at all amused that the Flight Attendants are still forced to interrupt my audio to sell me the airline-branded credit card. Then again I realize _they_ aren’t either. I actually complained about that to Alaska Airlines. They replied that as a frequent flyer, I am aware of the benefits, but other passengers _really appreciate_ the opportunity to get an airline credit card. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910/76 "2021-12-21T18:29:14Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > > [@pkbites](#): > > > > In my neck of the woods it’s slut+cunt+bitch > > (Wouldn’t that be “sluntch” then?) Maybe. Maybe I heard the term incorrectly. But definitely I don’t give a shit. It’s not like I called her that to her face. I was actually quite genteel in the face of her shitty attitude and loud voice. I saved my ire for here. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910/77 "2021-12-21T18:36:32Z")
Thank you for the acknowledgment that I did not, in fact, say or even imply what you said I said. Oh; wait. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910/78 "2021-12-21T18:36:35Z")
My local Barnes & Noble doesn’t push customers to sign up for their discount/rewards card at the registers. Sometimes they don’t even ask if you have one.\* \*I may have involuntarily developed a tone of voice saying “no” in response to the question, that discourages attempts at trying to sell it to me. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910/79 "2021-12-21T18:38:14Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > What rule says I am required to join a rewards program to buy $8 worth of tools? > Are you fucking crazy? There are registers that literally can’t ring someone up without providing information first. It depends on what point of sale system they are using. An employee might just make up information if a customer doesn’t want to provide anything but (1) they’re going above and beyond their job to do that, so don’t expect that of them, and (2) they might be disciplined if their employer knows that they are making up info they put in there. This isn’t a hypothetical. I have worked in such a store. And if you say “Well then they don’t have to work there and if they do they are the enemy”, fuck you and your entitled shit. I scraped by on my own making minimum wage part time with no other support. Self-important shitbags like you make people’s lives miserable. No wonder you have a long Pit thread in your name, you are an awful person. It’s hilarious that you’d necro your thread here to bring your dirty laundry to light. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910/80 "2021-12-21T18:39:25Z")
Aye; gotta say I agree with this post. Kinda disturbing how volatile **pk** became, to be honest. I simply answer “no” and “no, thank you; not right now” and that’s the end of it. I understand that they have to ask, and they understand that I’ve been asked many times. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-and-your-card-lame/334910.md?page=5)