# Fuck you AT&T, Fuck you landlord **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 3, 2012, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-at-t-fuck-you-landlord/630351 "2012-08-03T22:16:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-at-t-fuck-you-landlord/630351/121 "2012-08-07T22:08:38Z")
> [@Enkel](#): > > No. This would only work as an analogy if your neighbor’s wifi is remotely booting your device and causing your device to surf the internet. > > To test it, reverse the desirability. Your neighbor waters his lawn and because his water is free, he leaves it run until you have a lake in your front yard. Well, I think we’ve proven, if nothing else, that the water analogy doesn’t hold water. But, in an attempt to salvage it - the neighbor is watering his lawn from his mythical monthly rate water company. I live downhill, and due to the lay of the land, there is a river channel running between the two lots that carries off the excess flow. It not being Oregon, I’ve installed some sort of sluice device that can move water out of the river onto my yard. So when there is water in the channel and I need the water, I can pull it out. For overusing his bandwidth, I guess we’re both OK with me turning on his sprinklers when he’s trying to take a shower. ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-at-t-fuck-you-landlord/630351/122 "2012-08-07T22:12:47Z")
It’s like if your neighbour has a bukkake party and your wife stands beneath his window getting a free facial, only it turns out it’s not a party, it’s a porn shoot for _Bukkake Amateurs 2: Bukkake Boogaloo_ and she has just ruined the big money shot by being in the frame, because your neighbour has just done his nut for the night and has rolled over, farted and begun snoring. Like that, only strangely different. ---
**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-at-t-fuck-you-landlord/630351/123 "2012-08-07T22:14:35Z")
It’s about time an appropriate analogy was posted. ---
**Author:** ![al27052](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/41988e/32.png) [@al27052](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/al27052)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-at-t-fuck-you-landlord/630351/124 "2012-08-08T00:07:48Z")
I’m so convinced by all my detractors. Stealing wifi is _wrong_!!!1!!! When some of you idiots start railing against the dangers of jaywalking, which _does_ occasionally get people _killed_, I’ll start listening. Until then, you’re just a bunch of idiots procrastinating from sweeping the kitchen, washing the dishes, or whatever other thing you should probably get done now. Seriously, calling me names because of wifi? Get a grip, bitches. ROFL ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-at-t-fuck-you-landlord/630351/125 "2012-08-08T06:20:09Z")
> [@al27052](#): > > Until then, you’re just a bunch of idiots procrastinating from sweeping the kitchen, washing the dishes, or whatever other thing you should probably get done now. You’ve posted more than twice as many times in this thread as anyone else. I don’t think you want to be levelling the accusation of time-wasting against other people. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-at-t-fuck-you-landlord/630351/126 "2012-08-08T10:06:53Z")
> [@Enkel](#): > > (As a similar analogy, if your neighbor installs an electric outlet outside on his porch which is only 5ft from your own house, is it okay to plug an extension cord into his outlet Sure. Ok, here’s the situation. I have directed my robot manservant (Jeeves) to trim the hedges on my property, using my electric hedge trimmer. Jeeves scans the area and notices the closest outlet is my neighbors. Jeeves then contacts my neighbor’s robot manservant (Wilkins). (please imagine the following in an outrageous English accent) Jeeves - “Wilkins, old chap, might it be acceptable for me to utilize this conveniently located power outlet? My Master wishes me to perform a task that requires electrical power.” Wilkins - “Why certainly, it is my pleasure, wot! When my Master activated me, he was inquired regarding the level of security to use for this very outlet. His answer was to allow anyone to use it who wishes to. No secret password, no list of authorized users. My Master is truly a generous fellow, wot!” Jeeves - “Thank you Wilkins, it is much appreciated. If you don’t mind my asking, why do you keep saying wot at the end of sentences?” Wilkins - “Merely a ridiculous affectation, wot!” So Jeeves contacts me noting that he’s found a power outlet to use for the task. Knowing Jeeves, I’m sure that he’s gotten permission from the owner to use the outlet, so I acknowledge and direct him to continue. ---
**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-at-t-fuck-you-landlord/630351/127 "2012-08-08T12:14:29Z")
I’ve only been checking back to see if the expert **al27052** was going to posts cites for his statements. But apparently **al27052** has admitted defeat, so I’m not going to participate anymore. You guys have fun with your water and robots, if the robot goes swimming, let me know how it turns out. But in the mean time (and only because this is the BBQ Pit) **To AL27052 nah, nah, nah-nah, nah [SIZE=“5”]I win! you loose![/SIZE] neener, neener, neener… _beotch!_** Guess I’ll go wash my dishes now… ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-at-t-fuck-you-landlord/630351/128 "2012-08-08T13:23:29Z")
> [@al27052](#): > > When some of you idiots start railing against the dangers of jaywalking, which _does_ occasionally get people _killed_, I’ll start listening. There’ve been quite a few threads about that. Here, this should [get](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=644877) [you](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=509162) [started](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=88148). ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-at-t-fuck-you-landlord/630351/129 "2012-08-08T15:54:06Z")
> [@al27052](#): > > Seriously, calling me names because of wifi? Get a grip, bitches. ROFL Its more because of wtf, than because of wifi. ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-at-t-fuck-you-landlord/630351/130 "2012-08-08T15:56:30Z")
> [@Enkel](#): > > I’ve only been checking back to see if the expert **al27052** was going to posts cites for his statements. But apparently **al27052** has admitted defeat, so I’m not going to participate anymore. You guys have fun with your water and robots, if the robot goes swimming, let me know how it turns out. But in the mean time (and only because this is the BBQ Pit) > > **To AL27052 > nah, nah, nah-nah, nah > [SIZE=“5”]I win! you loose![/SIZE] > neener, neener, neener… _beotch!_** > > Guess I’ll go wash my dishes now… It would have been a perfect raspberry if not for the misspelling of LOSE. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-at-t-fuck-you-landlord/630351/131 "2012-08-08T16:03:56Z")
I think it was a command. The verb form of “loose,” i.e., “you have been beaten; now you need to let go.” ---
**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-at-t-fuck-you-landlord/630351/132 "2012-08-08T17:16:38Z")
> [@Rebo](#): > > It would have been a perfect raspberry if not for the misspelling of LOSE. Well, I’m not an **EXPERT** and my dishpan hands made the keyboard slippery. BUT, just in case Al is confused… **Hey AL! YOU LOST! nah, nah, nah-nah, nah!** Ooops… gotta go vacuum the rugs now. ---
**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-at-t-fuck-you-landlord/630351/133 "2012-08-08T18:16:45Z")
Bandwidth caps are just a ploy of big media to control distribution. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-at-t-fuck-you-landlord/630351/134 "2012-08-08T18:23:59Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Make it as easy as possible. If you can, write a letter certifying that you are a new tenant, and the prior tenant is no longer in residence. Present it to your landlord to sign, then fax/scan it to AT&T. All your landlord has to do is write his name. If you communicate by mail, send him a Self Addressed Stamped Envelope with the letter. > > Your landlord is being lazy, but it’s also not going to be fun for him to sit and wait on hold for 15 minutes, then spend 15 minutes trying to convince AT&T that he’s the landlord. Good suggestion. You could also try to contact AT&T to see if a copy of your lease, which is presumably dated AFTER the deadbeat quite paying, might suffice. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Tyger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Silver\_Tyger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Tyger)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-at-t-fuck-you-landlord/630351/135 "2012-08-08T18:59:25Z")
> [@Mama\_Zappa](#): > > Good suggestion. You could also try to contact AT&T to see if a copy of your lease, which is presumably dated AFTER the deadbeat quite paying, might suffice. Or I could just get internet from someone else. It’s getting hooked up in two weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-at-t-fuck-you-landlord/630351/136 "2012-08-08T20:34:55Z")
> [@Silver\_Tyger](#): > > Or I could just get internet from someone else. It’s getting hooked up in two weeks. [You do know your power’s going out soon, right?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=661212) ---
**Author:** ![al27052](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/41988e/32.png) [@al27052](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/al27052)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-at-t-fuck-you-landlord/630351/137 "2012-08-10T02:33:01Z")
What wonderful people you all are. I’m so impressed. Yeah, actually, I’m NOT. ROFL You know, the thing is, there are actual answers to these questions. Technology isn’t really that unpredictable. The law is a little less predictable, but as I pointed out, no one’s ever been prosecuted for freeloading wifi in their own home. I’m not sure I see the need for the abuse, given that the answers are fairly clear-cut. I guess that’s internet assholery for you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-at-t-fuck-you-landlord/630351.md?page=6)