# Fuck you, bitch from HR

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 13, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566 "2010-07-13T18:10:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566/61 "2010-07-14T16:10:41Z")

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Head for the clock tower!

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566/62 "2010-07-14T16:12:23Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> I fear this may become your catchphrase.

Not a bad sig, for board update purposes.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566/63 "2010-07-15T12:35:38Z")

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> [@Winston\_Smith](#):
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> I really hope not. All kidding aside, I’ve been working really hard and I think I’ve got at least a fair shot at it. I’m trying not to get my hopes up too high, though, so I won’t be too disappointed if it doesn’t happen. My boss is 100% behind me on the promotion (I’ll still be reporting to him), and he’s been advocating my case.

It could still be your catchphrase, because you’re talking about your next promotion.

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**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566/64 "2010-07-15T12:59:13Z")

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> [@Rysto](#):
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> I went through a period where Outlook would regularly fail to pop up a reminder. I once had Outlook all of a sudden pop up 30 minutes after a meeting had started to tell me that I was late for it.
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> Exchange is a shitty, bug-ridden system. It’s entirely possible that she is in fact telling the truth.

Yep. I’m in IT myself and I’ve had Outlook go through tantrums where it refuses to pop up any reminders, even if I go into the appointment manually and verify there _is_ a reminder set up.

Then, after a few months, I’ll get about 76 reminders pop up all at once, starting with “in 5 minutes” and ending with “3 months ago”. I’ve even gone to multiple co-workers and none of us can figure it out.

Then Outlook decides to behave and work again for awhile.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566/65 "2010-07-15T13:30:40Z")

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> [@zweisamkeit](#):
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> Yep. I’m in IT myself and I’ve had Outlook go through tantrums where it refuses to pop up any reminders, even if I go into the appointment manually and verify there _is_ a reminder set up.
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> Then, after a few months, I’ll get about 76 reminders pop up all at once, starting with “in 5 minutes” and ending with “3 months ago”. I’ve even gone to multiple co-workers and none of us can figure it out.
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> Then Outlook decides to behave and work again for awhile.

Yeah, I agree Outlook/Exchange can be buggy, but I think if she had been telling the truth she would have opened a ticket with ICS to have a look at it (she did not). When someone fucks up and blames it on _“not getting the email”_ or _“not getting the reminder”_, it makes me :dubious:.

You wanna know what I think is more likely? She forgot, and walked away from her desk, so she didn’t _see_ the reminder when it popped up.

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**Author:** ![grayhairedmomma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/47e85d/32.png) [@grayhairedmomma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grayhairedmomma)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566/66 "2010-07-15T13:55:47Z")

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> [@Winston\_Smith](#):
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> Yeah, I agree Outlook/Exchange can be buggy, but I think if she had been telling the truth she would have opened a ticket with ICS to have a look at it (she did not).

A lot of people don’t bother their IT departments with little stuff like that. Everyone’s system is buggy in some way, so people learn to expect that weird things will happen once in awhile.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566/67 "2010-07-15T13:59:20Z")

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> [@grayhairedmomma](#):
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> A lot of people don’t bother their IT departments with little stuff like that. Everyone’s system is buggy in some way, so people learn to expect that weird things will happen once in awhile.

Whatever. Doesn’t have all that much bearing on the OP, though. Thanks for your participation.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566/68 "2010-07-15T16:40:12Z")

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**Winston** , errr, have you, ummm, seen my stapler?

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566/69 "2010-07-15T18:30:42Z")

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> [@Autolycus](#):
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> **Winston** , errr, have you, ummm, seen my stapler?

I’ll set the building on fire.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566/70 "2010-07-15T18:36:38Z")

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I’m not sure why you’re surprised by the incompetence of your HR department, **Winston**. Any company dumb enough to hire you isn’t magically going to smarten up when they hire everyone else. I assume the place is mostly convicts and the developmentally disabled.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566/71 "2010-07-15T18:46:02Z")

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> [@Winston\_Smith](#):
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> So, in conclusion, this dimwit HR woman spaced on the meeting, and then lied about the reason she missed it, because she’s too fucking stupid to realize I am responsible for the technology upon which she hung her pathetic lie.

Clearly, the appropriate response is to express concern and inform her that since you administer the system, you’d be happy to look into what caused the error, if she can give you further details. That way, you can try to track down the bug and make sure it doesn’t recur.

If she’s lying, you get to make her incredibly uncomfortable.

If she’s \*not \*lying, you get to fix the system you’re supposed to be in charge of.

I see no bad here.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566/72 "2010-07-15T18:53:20Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> I’m not sure why you’re surprised by the incompetence of your HR department, **Winston**. Any company dumb enough to hire you isn’t magically going to smarten up when they hire everyone else. I assume the place is mostly convicts and the developmentally disabled.

True. When you put it like _that_ it’s sort of hard to stay angry.

ETA: I’ve never been _convicted_.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566/73 "2010-07-15T19:06:03Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Clearly, the appropriate response is to express concern and inform her that since you administer the system, you’d be happy to look into what caused the error, if she can give you further details. That way, you can try to track down the bug and make sure it doesn’t recur.
> 
> If she’s lying, you get to make her incredibly uncomfortable.
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> If she’s \*not \*lying, you get to fix the system you’re supposed to be in charge of.
> 
> I see no bad here.

You’d make a lousy Sys Admin. Here’s what I did, son. Read and learn.

I assured her that it was _ok_ that she missed the meeting and reminded her that it happens to _everyone_ once in a while.

I feigned _concerned understanding_ when she blamed Outlook/Exchange, and

I quickly changed the subject (to the matter at hand - my ‘interview’)

Then I went back to my desk and deleted her Home drive.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566/74 "2010-07-15T19:22:45Z")

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> [@Winston\_Smith](#):
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> You’d make a lousy Sys Admin. Here’s what I did, son. Read and learn.
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> I assured her that it was _ok_ that she missed the meeting and reminded her that it happens to _everyone_ once in a while.
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> I feigned _concerned understanding_ when she blamed Outlook/Exchange, and
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> I quickly changed the subject (to the matter at hand - my ‘interview’)
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> Then I went back to my desk and deleted her Home drive.

1.) I’m nobody’s son, mister;

2.) I roffled; and

3.) \*My \*suggestion has the benefit of actually being feasible in a real-life office setting (in the “not getting you fired” sense).

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566/75 "2010-07-15T19:28:26Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> 1.) I’m nobody’s son, mister;
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> 2.) I roffled; and
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> 3.) \*My \*suggestion has the benefit of actually being feasible in a real-life office setting (in the “not getting you fired” sense).

Fair enough. However, I’m of sourthern Norwegian heritage, and my people are (stereotypically) averse to any sort of emotional display. Making _her_ uncomfortable would make _me_ unconfortable. Not cool.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566/76 "2010-07-15T19:32:20Z")

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> [@Winston\_Smith](#):
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> ETA: I’ve never been _convicted_.

Yeah, that wasn’t the category I was thinking you fell into.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566/77 "2010-07-15T19:35:49Z")

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> [@Winston\_Smith](#):
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> Fair enough. However, I’m of sourthern Norwegian heritage, and my people are (stereotypically) averse to any sort of emotional display. Making _her_ uncomfortable would make _me_ unconfortable. Not cool.

What, you’d do this _in person_? What kind of sysadmin \*are \*you?

Email, man, _email_!

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566/78 "2010-07-15T20:00:07Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> Yeah, that wasn’t the category I was thinking you fell into.

As soon as I get this fork out of my eye, I’m gonna gut you like a fish.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566/79 "2010-07-15T20:01:51Z")

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> [@Winston\_Smith](#):
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> As soon as I get this fork out of my eye, I’m gonna gut you like a fish.

Frankly, I think mine is the most generous interpretation – at least in my scenario, it’s not your fault you’re the way you are.

It’s like when you try to tell someone a story and they ask if you’re drunk. Always say yes, even if you’re not, because at least then you have an excuse.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bitch-from-hr/546566/80 "2010-07-15T20:02:53Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> Frankly, I think mine is the most generous interpretation – at least in my scenario, it’s not your fault you’re the way you are.
> 
> It’s like when you try to tell someone a story and they ask if you’re drunk. Always say yes, even if you’re not, because at least then you have an excuse.

I agree completely. Say, who’s minding the store?

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