# Fuck you, brother, this is NOT all about YOU

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 27, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095 "2010-11-27T20:08:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095/21 "2010-11-28T06:25:53Z")

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How about he is invited to your house, and his dogs and your mother’s cat is not invited and if he doesn’t like it he can make other arrangements and there are no hard feelings. But it is your house, and your cat’s house, and neither of you will be put out of your own house on account of his bitches.

As for the “hooker” gift, he’s right. Sorry, but it isn’t nearly as funny as you think it is. And your nephew will be truly disappointed that you offered a gift and gave a joke that is a sorry excuse for a gift. And also, your niece has some problems that you do not know about and have not been shared with you, other than that you have seen some of the results.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095/22 "2010-11-28T06:33:53Z")

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> [@kath94](#):
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> I asked her what she dressed up as for Halloween & she had to ask her mother. :rolleyes:

Wow, I am really sorry to hear about your poor niece and your insensitive brothers. Let us know how it goes!

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**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095/23 "2010-11-28T06:34:45Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> How about he is invited to your house, and his dogs and your mother’s cat is not invited and if he doesn’t like it he can make other arrangements and there are no hard feelings. But it is your house, and your cat’s house, and neither of you will be put out of your own house on account of his bitches.
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> As for the “hooker” gift, he’s right. Sorry, but it isn’t nearly as funny as you think it is. And your nephew will be truly disappointed that you offered a gift and gave a joke that is a sorry excuse for a gift. And also, your niece has some problems that you do not know about and have not been shared with you, other than that you have seen some of the results.

I pretty much agree with this opinion save for the last sentence, which entire issue, I’d prefer to ride the fence on.  
Dogs should not be expected to accommodate for, too bad they’re putting you on the spot about it.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095/24 "2010-11-28T06:50:02Z")

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Whether the joke is funny or not is not really relevant. What right does younger brother have to tell you what gift you can give to his nephew? It’s yet another attempt by younger brother to control things that are not in his control.

And it doesn’t matter whether there’s a good reason for the stuff about the daughter–as little brother has not communicated anything about her with you. If he can’t share a family problem with family, then he can’t expect you to condone his actions. And if he wants to control everyone else’s behavior, then his behavior becomes under scrutiny.

Don’t get me wrong–I’m okay if you decide that it’s not worth doing anything about, for the good of the family. But do not let anyone here make you feel guilty if you decide to show your brother that his bullying is unacceptable.

Because, that’s what it is–he’s using underhanded tactics to try to control someone when he doesn’t have control over it. It’s constant in my family, too, and, despite the fact that we get along, they know not to pull that crap with me.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095/25 "2010-11-28T10:19:18Z")

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> [@](#):
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> As for the “hooker” gift, he’s right. Sorry, but it isn’t nearly as funny as you think it is. And your nephew will be truly disappointed that you offered a gift and gave a joke that is a sorry excuse for a gift.

Since the nephew was OK with asking for a hooker as a joke, I think that he should learn to live with the consequences. Yeah, he’s a kid…and he needs to learn that if someone offers to do something nice, then you can crack a joke, but then say something like “but if you can’t manage a hooker, I’d love the new WoW expansion”. The nephew gets to crack his joke, and Auntie still gets an idea of what he’d like, other than the hooker.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095/26 "2010-11-28T13:07:30Z")

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I’m pretty sure she said in the other thread that this isn’t the whole present, but it’s the second time in a row that he’s asked for a hooker, so she wanted to zing him a little on that.

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**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095/27 "2010-11-28T15:27:23Z")

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> [@kath94](#):
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> SUHA asks me when my nephew is going to open his “gift.” Because SUHA wants to make sure that it isn’t done in his presence or in that of his 13-year-old daughter. Because of the implication, you know. We don’t want to get into that discussion with her.
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> WTF, bro! It’s a JOKE. You DO know what a joke is, right?!? Fuck you! It’s none of your business what I give as a joke. It’s not immoral or illegal. It’s a fucking joke. Get over it! Cripes, that just makes me want to see it opened in front of your and your daughter all the more!
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> Your daughter is the oddest, most immature 13 year old I’ve ever seen. You took her out of school for reasons unknown, and now you home school her, which has only served to isolate her further and fuck her up even more!

Lemme guess…they’re Christians?

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**Author:** ![kath94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@kath94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kath94)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095/28 "2010-11-29T02:20:23Z")

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> [@fuzzypickles](#):
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> Lemme guess…they’re Christians?

Yeah. Sort of over-the-top recently more than ever, and certainly more serious than he was raised. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, mind you.

A few years back when “The DaVinci Code” was storming up the best sellers lists & I was reading it I asked if he had heard of it. His response was that he NEVER would because “it’s sacriligious.” Gimme a break! Try reading it first or at least learning something about it before parroting back what you’d heard, because it’s wrong!

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095/29 "2010-11-29T02:31:22Z")

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Yeah, I’d drop the silly “hooker” joke at this point, too - this isn’t a hill I’d die on; I don’t agree with their beliefs, but I’d give them this one.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095/30 "2010-11-29T02:38:01Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> Since the nephew was OK with asking for a hooker as a joke, I think that he should learn to live with the consequences. Yeah, he’s a kid…and he needs to learn that if someone offers to do something nice, then you can crack a joke, but then say something like “but if you can’t manage a hooker, I’d love the new WoW expansion”. The nephew gets to crack his joke, and Auntie still gets an idea of what he’d like, other than the hooker.

I was finna say maybe he wanted it to be hooker or _bust_, but well…

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095/31 "2010-11-29T06:26:24Z")

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> [@nyctea scandiaca](#):
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> Wow, I am really sorry to hear about your poor niece and your insensitive brothers. Let us know how it goes!

I’m sure we’ll be able to read the details on [CNN.com](http://CNN.com), in a story that includes the line “Before turning the gun on himself…”

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**Author:** ![Cammacdon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7cd45c/32.png) [@Cammacdon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cammacdon)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095/32 "2010-11-29T07:54:25Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> I hope you don’t use language like that in front of his darling little GIRL. He’s just a father trying to protect his DAUGHTER and you have to f-word it up, huh? I mean, Jesus fucking Christ, she’ll want to know what the joke is about and then he’ll have to tell her about s-e-x. She’s too young to be hearing about that stuff, OKAY? Studies have shown that nearly ALL perverts were exposed to sex at a young age. What, you want to make her into an atheist or something?
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> God bless.

sarcasm is scary when you’ve heard people talk like this and be serious.:eek:

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095/33 "2010-11-29T08:38:11Z")

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> [@kath94](#):
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> A few years back when “The DaVinci Code” was storming up the best sellers lists & I was reading it I asked if he had heard of it. His response was that he NEVER would because “it’s sacriligious.” Gimme a break! Try reading it first or at least learning something about it before parroting back what you’d heard, because it’s wrong!

:dubious: What’s he supposed to learn? “Um, yeah, now that I browse through it, I see that Jesus was not divine in any way and moreover was having sex with Mary Magdalene, but naw, that ain’t sacriligious or nuthin’.” What are you going to do next, berate a Muslim for not eating your ham casserole? “Like omigawd, he sez its unclean but gimme a break, he didn’t even _taste_ it :rolleyes: . . .”

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095/34 "2010-11-29T13:44:33Z")

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> [@Cammacdon](#):
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> sarcasm is scary when you’ve heard people talk like this and be serious.:eek:

Who’s being sarcastic? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095/35 "2010-11-29T15:17:58Z")

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> [@kath94](#):
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> I asked her what she dressed up as for Halloween & she had to ask her mother. :rolleyes:

Must have been a really shitty costume.

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095/36 "2010-11-29T15:30:00Z")

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Sounds to me like the daughter may have some form of autism or mental development issue. Given that the OP comes across as a bit of a shallow judgmental harpy, perhaps the girls parents have decided it’s wisest not to share that particular info with Kath94. Or maybe kath94 herself is just a bit young – does “94” refer to her birth year?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095/37 "2010-11-29T15:39:21Z")

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The ability of Dopers to diagnose psychological impairments from third hand evidence never ceases to amaze me.

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**Author:** ![Zulema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/db5fbb/32.png) [@Zulema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zulema)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095/38 "2010-11-29T15:45:22Z")

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Even if your niece is the most immature 13 year old you know I don’t think Christmas day should be the day she learns about prostitution. If you want to have a hooker joke with your nephew do it in a private way that everyone else doesn’t have to witness it.

I also think it’s a little creepy that your 14 year old nephew is so focused on hookers and that his dad encourages it.

Family Christmas isn’t the right time for sexual jokes.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095/39 "2010-11-29T16:01:22Z")

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> [@BrightNShiny](#):
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> Now, as for the prank gift, it’s his kid, and he’s entitled to set whatever limits he wants on her, no matter how stupid they seem.

I think you’ve got the prank gift kid mixed up with another kid.

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**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-brother-this-is-not-all-about-you/562095/40 "2010-11-29T19:07:34Z")

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This whole thread is confusing. What I get so far is that a 13 year old girl dressed up as a Mary Magdalene for Halloween and her Father doesn’t want the nephew to know about it so he’s trying to get uninvited from Xmas by insisting on bringing his dogs.

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