# Fuck you, Bush. Gitmo prisoners have rights! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 12, 2008, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692 "2008-06-12T14:42:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692/21 "2008-06-12T16:25:15Z")
[QUOTE=Jackknifed Juggernaut] That’s just for us Americans, silly! [/QUOTE] Or, if you are an originalist, just white American males. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692/22 "2008-06-12T16:28:24Z")
[QUOTE=Giles] Or, if you are an originalist, just white American males. [/QUOTE] With property. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692/23 "2008-06-12T16:51:28Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] He already knows what his actions have done. He doesn’t _care_. [/QUOTE] Lovely, that would make him a sociopath then. He’s needs to be institutionalized as he’s a danger to himself or others. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692/24 "2008-06-12T16:57:21Z")
[QUOTE=The Tao’s Revenge] Lovely, that would make him a sociopath then. He’s needs to be institutionalized as he’s a danger to himself or others. [/QUOTE] I’d go with sociopathic cunt myself. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692/25 "2008-06-12T17:04:55Z")
[QUOTE=yojimbo] I’d go with sociopathic cunt myself. [/QUOTE] No – cunts are both useful and give pleasure. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692/26 "2008-06-12T17:08:11Z")
Well, the Supreme Court has made its decision. Now let them enforce it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692/27 "2008-06-12T17:22:53Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] Well, the Supreme Court has made its decision. Now let them enforce it. [/QUOTE] Bush to the genocidal monster Andrew Jackson. An apt comparison. Except Andrew Jackson wasn’t dumb as bag of rocks. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692/28 "2008-06-12T19:40:22Z")
[QUOTE=The Tao’s Revenge] Btw the fact that the executive branch thought this was good idea is being pitted. What the hell is wrong with people? Why isn’t this stuff in the news more? [/QUOTE] Because the majority of Americans either don’t care or actively approve of it. [QUOTE=The Tao’s Revenge] ER on second thought as much as I dislike bush the monster, our president. he shouldn’t be tortured either. Just have to witness it and hear the screams of agony so he’ll know what his actions did for the rest of his life. [/QUOTE] What makes you think he doesn’t ? I have no problem imagining Bush watching torture scenes in the Oval Office, complete with surround sound, while he smirks at his victims in satisfaction. Probably masturbating. ---
**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692/29 "2008-06-12T22:01:19Z")
The result will be simple - Gitmo will close and future prisoners will no longer be kept on anything approximating US soil. The case hinged on the fact that Gitmo is effectively America. All they have to do is keep the prisoners in Iraqi and Afghani locations and the rights are gone. ---
**Author:** ![Spezza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@Spezza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spezza)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692/30 "2008-06-12T22:07:32Z")
[QUOTE=Weirddave] I don’t understand what you’re pitting here. It seems to me that this is just an example of the system working. [/QUOTE] And _this_ is an example of American’s delusion that their system is working. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692/31 "2008-06-12T23:09:25Z")
[QUOTE=Der Trihs] Because the majority of Americans either don’t care or actively approve of it. What makes you think he doesn’t ? I have no problem imagining Bush watching torture scenes in the Oval Office, complete with surround sound, while he smirks at his victims in satisfaction. Probably masturbating. [/QUOTE] I have a problem with imagining it. _shudder_ Thanks for that lovely image. :eek: Seriously, though, I don’t think he’s gleeful-I think he just doesn’t give a shit. Which to my mind, makes him even worse. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692/32 "2008-06-12T23:52:28Z")
[QUOTE=Jackknifed Juggernaut] That’s just for us Americans, silly! [/QUOTE] As I’ve discovered recently, the average American doesn’t believe in inalienable rights for Muslim Americans, that’s for sure. The article didn’t mention it, and no one here has talked about it - could someone tell me if this ties in with the Patriot Act at all? I’m not sure I understand the difference between the Military Commissions Act of 2006 and the Patriot Act. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692/33 "2008-06-12T23:54:45Z")
[QUOTE=featherlou] The article didn’t mention it, and no one here has talked about it - could someone tell me if this ties in with the Patriot Act at all? [/quote] No. > [@](#): > > I’m not sure I understand the difference between the Military Commissions Act of 2006 and the Patriot Act. They are different pieces of legislation. They are not directly related. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692/34 "2008-06-13T00:02:53Z")
> **[Military Commissions Act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Commissions_Act)** > > There are multiple uses of Military Commissions Act: > **[Patriot Act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_act)** > > The USA PATRIOT Act (commonly known as the Patriot Act) was a landmark Act of the United States Congress, signed into law by President George W. Bush. The formal name of the statute is the Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism (USA PATRIOT) Act of 2001, and the commonly used short name is a contrived acronym that is embedded in the name set forth in the statute. > The Patriot Act was enacted following the September 11 attack... ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692/35 "2008-06-13T00:08:42Z")
[QUOTE=Spezza] And _this_ is an example of American’s delusion that their system is working. [/QUOTE] I see you’re not quite aware of **Weirddave’s** political erm…leanings. Makes Papa Doc a toddler by comparison. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692/36 "2008-06-13T00:21:20Z")
Just out of curiosity, what did the dissenters in this case say? Did they have any actual law to back them up? (I know I can read the ruling, but not being lawyer, I can’t understand the merits, or lack thereof, of legal arguments.) ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692/37 "2008-06-13T00:23:17Z")
[QUOTE=featherlou] As I’ve discovered recently, the average American doesn’t believe in inalienable rights for Muslim Americans, that’s for sure. The article didn’t mention it, and no one here has talked about it - could someone tell me if this ties in with the Patriot Act at all? I’m not sure I understand the difference between the Military Commissions Act of 2006 and the Patriot Act. [/QUOTE] The Bush Administration has brought up three versions of laws designed to combat terrorism. All three have been either modified/struck down/or altered. Today’s decision is just the latest of the three. The final resolution of today’s decision will be resolved under a new administration. McCain has signaled he supports the current Bush version of the law that was struck down today. Obama has signaled he supports the views of the five justices who reversed the law(thank Og). Stay tuned. ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692/38 "2008-06-13T00:51:48Z")
[QUOTE=Giles] No – cunts are both useful and give pleasure. [/QUOTE] Bush, then, is a Sociopathic Ann Coulter, which is neither. I can’t wait for January, so we can get rid of him and that smirky asshole Cheney. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692/39 "2008-06-13T03:32:01Z")
[QUOTE=Weirddave] I don’t understand what you’re pitting here. [/QUOTE] Seven years’ delay, that’s what. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692/40 "2008-06-13T03:38:43Z")
The Supreme Court did its job. Now let Congress do theirs. If it fails, let McCain be one of the toadies to vote against impeachment. It will not backfire, Democrats. Now is the time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-bush-gitmo-prisoners-have-rights/452692.md?page=3)