# Fuck you Cameron and all you stand for! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 22, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202 "2013-07-22T16:19:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![drew870mitchell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drew870mitchell/32/3946_2.png) [@drew870mitchell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drew870mitchell)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202/21 "2013-07-22T17:10:49Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > **Phones have come with a filter on by default for years. I just went into a local Vodafone shop and asked them to lift mine when it kicked in - easy enough done given I’m obviously over 18. I was mainly pissed off that SomethingAwful was blocked.** > > But yes, it should be opt-in to the filter system if there has to be one, but when has this government ever done anything sensible? The filter is just a comfort blanket anyway, the real bad guys aren’t passing round anything that’s searchable. Is this what passes for normal over in Merry Olde England? While it wouldn’t surprise me that some carriers might have parental censor software in the US I’ve never heard of anyone ever buying a phone with it turned on by default. Seriously, never. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202/22 "2013-07-22T17:18:12Z")
> [@Mr.Kobayashi](#): > > Because it’s utterly pointless. Will this have any deterrent (or benefit for that matter) for kids looking at the internet? They’ve grown up in the internet age, they’ll know how to use proxies and get around page blocks just as well as anyone else. Hell, we were doing that at school back in the 56k days. _shrug_ I grew up in the Internet era too and I have no idea how to do it; I’ve never had to. I’m sure some will figure it out, but not all. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202/23 "2013-07-22T17:26:25Z")
> [@drew870mitchell](#): > > Is this what passes for normal over in Merry Olde England? While it wouldn’t surprise me that some carriers might have parental censor software in the US I’ve never heard of anyone ever buying a phone with it turned on by default. Seriously, never. Fuck off with the Merry Olde England, makes you sound like a total arsehole. 🙂 Seriously, don’t do that (I don’t live in England). On your actual point, I think that became the default when smartphones got cheap enough and widespread enough that bairns had them. It was irritating though - I’d just got my new upgrade and it was hobbled out of the box, even though I’d had an obviously adult relationship with Vodafone for over ten years (credit card etc). ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202/24 "2013-07-22T17:42:12Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Why wouldn’t government have a role in regulating the internet? I can only speak for the USA, but here, the other media have to be regulated because there is a limited bandwidth. There is no such limitation with the Internet. They are regulated for content mostly because they are broadcast, and public. And if that amount of regulation for content is on shaky grounds constitutionally. Cable channels are much less regulated. And internet is more like a library than a channel. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202/25 "2013-07-22T17:46:30Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > … that bairns had them. [Jock Translator] That’s a child, for those wondering. [/JT] ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202/26 "2013-07-22T17:48:50Z")
Not what zombie children eat? ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202/27 "2013-07-22T17:54:52Z")
…\*and \*what dyslexic zombie children eat. ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202/28 "2013-07-22T18:07:39Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I can’t get that worked up about a change in default settings. You need to opt in. So the ISP will have lists of people who have opted in. These lists are not going to stay a secret for long. A few years from now a MI5 guy is going to forget his briefcase and laptop on a train and the list will be made public on the Internet, and people can go and lookup their neighbour, girl they’re flirting with, or the guy coming in for a job interview. Perhaps it’s going to be used in court cases: some guy is accused of rape, the evidence is flimsy, but he’s on the pervert list so he’s probably guilty. Anyway, it’s unworkable. How on earth are they going to classify what is smut, and keep such lists up to date? There are some pretty ugly pictures on Wikipedia, page-6 girls in newspapers, porn on Reddit, tumblr, blogspot, and VK, and lingerie health sites have naughty pictures, Amazon has 50 Shades of Grey, etc. It’s going to be a full time job for a thousand bureaucrats just to keep the naughty site list up to date. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202/29 "2013-07-22T18:12:05Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > You need to opt in. So the ISP will have lists of people who have opted in. These lists are not going to stay a secret for long. A few years from now a MI5 guy is going to forget his briefcase and laptop on a train and the list will be made public on the Internet, and people can go and lookup their neighbour, girl they’re flirting with, or the guy coming in for a job interview. Perhaps it’s going to be used in court cases: some guy is accused of rape, the evidence is flimsy, but he’s on the pervert list so he’s probably guilty. The ISPs _already_ know who is looking at porn. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202/30 "2013-07-22T18:19:36Z")
NSFBK isn’t just a Snopes meme? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202/31 "2013-07-22T18:30:09Z")
> [@Mr.Kobayashi](#): > > "I’m not making this speech because I want to moralise or scaremonger, but because I feel profoundly as a politician, and as a father, that the time for action has come. This is, quite simply, about how we protect our children **and their innocence."** - David Cameron :dubious: Why is **that** a thing worth protecting?! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202/32 "2013-07-22T18:52:15Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > That’s another point - how on earth are they going to define “rape video”? By checking to see if the performers’ paychecks bounced. ---
**Author:** ![TheSeaOtter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ed655f/32.png) [@TheSeaOtter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheSeaOtter)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202/33 "2013-07-22T19:56:08Z")
> [@Mr.Kobayashi](#): > > Most Dopers are Americans - thank your stars for the magnificent First Amendment and weep for your mother country sliding into totalitarianism. Funny, I always thought the US was supposed to be the one with the bizarre hangups about sexuality. Also, I am reminded of [this story](http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/07/17/man-sues-apple-for-porn-addiction/) of the man who tried to sue Apple because it made devices that showed pornography. I guess he should just move to the UK? ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202/34 "2013-07-22T20:04:14Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > The government regulates and censors television, radio, and print media. What country do you live in, where the government regulates and censors print media? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202/35 "2013-07-22T21:43:36Z")
> [@Mr.Kobayashi](#): > > This is, quite simply, about how we protect our children and their innocence." - David Cameron. Hasn’t this train already left the station? All you have to do is think about Jamie Bulger and realize that the UK has bigger issues than kids looking at titties. ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202/36 "2013-07-22T21:54:53Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > The ISPs _already_ know who is looking at porn. But the ISPs don’t care. ---
**Author:** ![coffeecat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coffeecat/32/3405_2.png) [@coffeecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coffeecat)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202/37 "2013-07-22T23:44:38Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Why wouldn’t government have a role in regulating the internet? [Because](http://www.bartleby.com/130/) ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202/38 "2013-07-22T23:52:01Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > How on earth are they going to classify what is smut In order to be smut it must have no redeeming social importance. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202/39 "2013-07-23T00:01:24Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > In order to be smut it must have no redeeming social importance. So, that’s a review-average of two hard cocks or less on the standard one-to-four scale? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202/40 "2013-07-23T00:02:31Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Well, what do you expect? He’s king of the world. I thought that was the one by the title, too, but he gave us Naked Kate Winslet (hallowed be her boobs) and that doesn’t fit with the OP. Maybe this Cameron wants to reduce access to photos of the Naked Duchess of Cambridge and her Royal Cooch, which is a crime on the level of what Hitler would do. (Mussolini, being normal and Italian, would plaster imperial fascist paintings and sculptures of her all over the place, while Stalin would just kill her. That boy had issues.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-cameron-and-all-you-stand-for/664202.md?page=3)