# Fuck YOU Canada, fuck you. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 30, 2003, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810 "2003-12-30T18:42:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Quint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/76d3ee/32.png) [@Quint](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quint)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2003, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810/1 "2003-12-30T18:42:44Z")
Why a huge FUUUCCCCKKKAAAA YOU to Canada? There’s something wrong with a country when the parliament passes a patent law so fundamentally corrupt that a humble farmer like Percy Schmeiser can be SUCCESSFULLY sued by Monsanto for copyright infringement. The trial resulted in a verdict AGAINST Schmeiser, showing the spinelessness of the Canadian judicial system. Sure, sure, the Supreme Court has a chance to reverse that decision on Jan 20, but the damage to Mr. Schmeiser’s canola crop is long done. Here’s a link: [http://www.mindfully.org/GE/GE2/Schmeiser-Implications-Clark.htm](http://www.mindfully.org/GE/GE2/Schmeiser-Implications-Clark.htm) For folding their spines in two backwards to suck the shit covered dick Monsanto had just finished ass- raping them with, a big old fuck you to the government and legal system of Canada. Oh, and fuck Monsanto too! ---
**Author:** ![cowgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@cowgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cowgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2003, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810/2 "2003-12-30T19:23:52Z")
Wow. That is shit. I was hoping that this case would end positively … this does not bode well for anyone, except for Monsanto. Any news on the lawsuit from Saskatchewan wheat farmers trying to prevent introduction of GM wheat? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810/3 "2003-12-31T12:56:13Z")
I see a new trend in thread names coming. How soon until we see: **Fuck YOU England, fuck you.** or… **Fuck YOU Switzerland, fuck you.** or even… **Fuck YOU Iceland, fuck you.** ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810/4 "2003-12-31T12:59:38Z")
Lord Ashtar, the Iceland one is only applicable to anyone posting about Bjork. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810/5 "2003-12-31T13:41:55Z")
_Modus Operandi of a country-fucker:_ Fuck Country -\> ??? -\> Profit. ---
**Author:** ![hypnoboth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bb73d2/32.png) [@hypnoboth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hypnoboth)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810/6 "2003-12-31T14:09:46Z")
FUCK YOU, Monaco, FUCK YOU. I was thinking specifically of Princess Stehpanie. Babe city… ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810/7 "2003-12-31T16:00:34Z")
Heh. The entire province knew Schmeiser was full of shit and guilty as sin. Seed blew in from the neighbour’s field my ass. But we’ve been rooting for him anyways, cuz Monsanto is [booming echoing voice]EEEEEVIL![/bev] ---
**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810/8 "2003-12-31T16:11:21Z")
Fuck YOU, Queen of Jordan, fuck you. That article contains more deep background on canola agriculture than I was prepared for. I’ll be OK though. The arguments against the legal process (towards the end) are good ones. The process seems to presume guilt, despite “insect propagation.” ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810/9 "2003-12-31T17:58:46Z")
Fuck YOU, Antarctica, fuck you. I just don’t like the way those penguins look. Shifty eyes. Always dressed formal. Not afraid of humans. Somethings wrong here, I say!!! ---
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810/10 "2003-12-31T18:03:27Z")
I have to concur with the desire to fuck Canada, but for different reasons. I’m mad that they have yet to reward one of our best members with a seat in the Commons. ---
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810/11 "2003-12-31T22:46:38Z")
My husband also concurs with the desire to FUCK CANADA, but I’m going to make him wait til after kidlet goes to bed. ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810/12 "2003-12-31T23:17:39Z")
Fuck YOU, Mongolia! Fuck YOU! You and your smug monks. You and your damn barbecues made me FAT and HAPPY! I’m suing you in a _class action lawsuit_ because your advertising were targeted directly at one market–hungry people! Your marketing strategy was kept behind closed doors for years, and you never once failed to warn people of the dangers of tasty frozen beef stir fried up with snow peas and garlic. You knew the dangers of feeding such tasty morsels to hungry businessfolk at lunchtime, and you knew the lack of productivity and loss of man-hours it would induce as these same buisnessfolk were rendered comatose by a full tummy immmediately after lunch. And yet, you continue to market your product freely and without regulation. I’ll get you Mongolia, and your little Ulaanbaatar too! Tripler Next on my hitlist: Whoever invented “fondue”. ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810/13 "2003-12-31T23:21:33Z")
:smack: Damned grammatical errors! Corrections as follows: [ul] [li] . . . because your advertising _was and is_ targeted . . .[/li][li] . . . you never _once warned people_ . . .[/li][/ul] I blame the 2 pots of coffee I had today. Tripler I’ll just bite my tongue and save my fury for the lawsuit. ---
**Author:** ![donkeyoatey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@donkeyoatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/donkeyoatey)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810/14 "2003-12-31T23:41:31Z")
For shame. **coven**. A rant like this and you don’t use the fact that canola is also referred to as rapeseed. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810/15 "2003-12-31T23:47:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Governor Quinn \* > \*\*I’m mad that they have yet to reward one of our best members with a seat in the Commons. \*\* Eeee! You’re sweet 🙂 **Ginger** : we may be able to get **Potter** in on this one too. ;D ---
**Author:** ![SnoopyFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@SnoopyFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnoopyFan)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810/16 "2004-01-01T00:01:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lord Ashtar \* > \*\*I see a new trend in thread names coming. How soon until we see: > **Fuck YOU Switzerland, fuck you.** > > * * * Neutral bastards!!! ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810/17 "2004-01-01T00:28:26Z")
People, there was a genuine rant started here. Please keep it on track. I think that the original subject is worthy of exploration, and quite possibly a new thread in GD. Lynn For the Straight Dope ---
**Author:** ![Quint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/76d3ee/32.png) [@Quint](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quint)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810/18 "2004-01-01T00:58:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Gorsnak \* > \*\*Heh. The entire province knew Schmeiser was full of shit and guilty as sin. Seed blew in from the neighbour’s field my ass. But we’ve been rooting for him anyways, cuz Monsanto is [booming echoing voice]EEEEEVIL![/bev] \*\* I’m not accusing Monsanto of being evil. Self- interest is not evil all the time. The problem here is that the law allows them to punish a farmer for doing what he has always done. There is something clearly not right there, and I think it’s up to the parliament of Canada to put it’s citizens self- interest ahead of corporations’. As far as Fucking all these other countries… why not? But since when is England a country? ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810/19 "2004-01-01T02:10:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by coven \* > \*\*I’m not accusing Monsanto of being evil. Self- interest is not evil all the time. The problem here is that the law allows them to punish a farmer for doing what he has always done. There is something clearly not right there, and I think it’s up to the parliament of Canada to put it’s citizens self- interest ahead of corporations’. \*\* Well, if we’re going to be serious here, allow me to do some quick research. [The court decision](http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fct/2001/2001fct256.html) My off the cuff comment above was made based solely on what I heard during news reports back when the case was being heard. Those news reports stated that Schmeiser’s canola was something like 98% Roundup resistant. That was probably a figure bandied about by Monsanto, I suppose, but in any event, 98% of the canola growing in your field doesn’t get there by accident, which is more or less what Schmeiser was publicly claiming at the time. Hence, the general opinion at the time was that he was obviously lying, though no one really cared since the opinion of Monsanto here really is very negative. Now, upon reading the court decision, some things become clear. What happened, according to my understanding of the court’s findings, was this. In 96, a windrow of canola from a neighbour’s field of Roundup Ready canola blew onto one of Schmeiser’s fields. This isn’t terribly uncommon, and when it happens, pods are smashed and seeds are strewn about. In such situations, growth in the following year of volunteer plants from the strewn about seeds is very common. In 97, Schmeiser discovered the existence of this volunteer roundup resistant canola when hand-spraying around power poles. He then sprayed the portion of his field adjacent to the neighbour’s with Roundup, and discovered that a large portion of it survived. He _then_ saved the seed from that exact part of the field for use the next year. It seems to me that it’s bloody obvious that he intentionally violated Monsanto’s patent. There’s no way he couldn’t have known that the plants that survived his spraying in 97 weren’t Roundup Ready volunteers from the neighbour’s field the year previous, and yet it was seed from precisely those plants that he saved for use as seed the following year. Case closed. Now, if you wish to discuss the wisdom or validity of developing GM plants, or granting patents for them, or what have you, fine. But this court decision is entirely unremarkable. It’s an open and shut patent infringement case. I direct you [here](http://www.biotech-info.net/percy_schmeiser.html) to a collection of material on the case. The Ms. Clark who authored your cite (her article can be found at the above link as well) is pretty much alone amongst the doomsayers. ---
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810/20 "2004-01-01T03:50:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \* > \*\*Eeee! You’re sweet 🙂 > \*\* Thank you. If I claim that I’m paying you for “services rendered”, would it be legal for me (a resident of the U.S.) to give you funding? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-canada-fuck-you/221810.md?page=2)