# Fuck you, Czarcasm, for locking my thread.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 20, 2007, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744 "2007-12-20T19:30:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![myskepticsight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@myskepticsight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/myskepticsight)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/61 "2007-12-20T20:55:36Z")

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Why can’t you just bring a book to read like everyone else? At least bring one with your circuitry crap so when you get detained in O’Hare you won’t be bored.

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/62 "2007-12-20T20:55:43Z")

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[QUOTE=pravnik]  
the notoriously humorless FBI who then shows up on the doorstep of your real life self.  
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On the bright side, when this happens you can let us all know how **TashaBot** is doing.

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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/63 "2007-12-20T20:56:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus]  
I have a similar question. I am a gun enthusiast and would like the opportunity to clean my guns while taking a flight, seeing as how I have all that spare time? Do you think that will be a problem?  
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Guns are not allowed in the cabin per FAA regulations. Electronics are.

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/64 "2007-12-20T20:56:35Z")

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[QUOTE=VCO3]  
That’s what happens when a conversation mutates and evolves. You **yourself** gave me a special warning for not keeping up my end of the conversation in the pit, by posting and not returning to topics. Now, when I keep a topic going and the conversation continues with back and forth banter and evolution, the thread gets LOCKED. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. I’m starting to feel like you mods are specifically trying to box me in; you punish me for doing one thing by warning me, then you lock my thread when I do the opposite, which is what you tell me to do.  
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Bullshit. Look at Giraffe’s post. Do you see “VCO3’s Get Out of Jail Free Card” on it? Just because you’re abiding by **Giraffe** ’s ruling doesn’t mean that you can do whatever you like otherwise.

If you want to go down in a flaming ball of stupid, that’s your prerogative, but it is going to be because you are choosing to act in a manner that violated the letter and spirit of the board’s rules, not because you’re being victimized.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/65 "2007-12-20T20:58:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus]  
I have a similar question. I am a gun enthusiast and would like the opportunity to clean my guns while taking a flight, seeing as how I have all that spare time? Do you think that will be a problem?  
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Well, if you explain nicely that you’re not carrying any bullets, I’m sure it will be no problem. Remember to cock it loudly and show the empty chamber to anyone who looks concerned!

Now, _I’m_ an amateur herpetologist. Do you think it would be okay for me to bring a few dozen snakes on a plane? 100, tops. I mean, they won’t be poisonous or anything, give me a little credit here! Just a few milk snakes and maybe a half dozen small constrictors…

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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/66 "2007-12-20T20:59:59Z")

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[QUOTE=pravnik]  
Look, even if you’re trolling to get a rise out of us idjits on the message board and see ho much BS we’ll swallow, this is an incredibly bad idea. You’re joking on the internet about carrying a device that appears to be a hoax bomb onto an airliner, something which could come to the attention of the notoriously humorless FBI who then shows up on the doorstep of your real life self. Who’s the moron then?  
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I am in **no way** joking about carrying a “hoax bomb” on an airliner. I’m doing the _complete opposite_, and I reject this claim of yours. It’s an outright fabrication, and I **demand** that you rescind your comment.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/67 "2007-12-20T21:00:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Blaster Master]  
You know full-well that the people performing the searches are probably not the brightest bulbs out there. You know full well that many of other passengers and the flight crew are also rather dim. You know full well that, to the untrained eye that has been excessively exposed to hollywood, a bunch of small electronic components could very well appear to be parts for a bomb or some other “scary” device. Professing anything to the contrary is either willful ignorance or incomprehensible naivete.  
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Actually, this is starting to get a little unfair. If VCO3 brings components that look like they _might_ be bomb parts, it’s not a mark of stupidity or ignorance for anyone to assume they _might_ be bomb parts. I recall a similar passage in U.E. Baughman’s memoirs _Secret Service Chief_ (he was head of the Service 1948-61) in which he describes the headaches of having to deal with all the gifts people send presidents, including gifts of food. He admitted that while it was unlikely that the food was sent with anything other than positive motives, testing (for example) a bag of oranges for tampering was expensive, difficult and would invariably destroy the oranges in the process, so the only practical response was just to toss them. Sure, 99.9% of the gifts were harmless, but nobody wanted to be the guy who let that thousandth package through.  
Anyway, I figure VC03 is sliding from a troll worth the occasional laugh to a troll who is killing the joke by dragging it out too long.

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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/68 "2007-12-20T21:01:29Z")

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[QUOTE=fluiddruid]

If you want to go down in a flaming ball of stupid, that’s your prerogative, but it is going to be because you are choosing to act in a manner that violated the letter and spirit of the board’s rules, not because you’re being victimized.  
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I an deeply offended that you’re insinuating that I’m somehow “violating the letter and spirit of the board” by asking a legitimate and non-controversial question in GQ.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/69 "2007-12-20T21:03:50Z")

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[QUOTE=VCO3]  
I am in **no way** joking about carrying a “hoax bomb” on an airliner. I’m doing the _complete opposite_, and I reject this claim of yours. It’s an outright fabrication, and I **demand** that you rescind your comment.  
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Or what? You’ll send a flashy LED buzzer gizmo to his house? Just as an entertaining harmless gift, of course, to show there are no hard feelings.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/70 "2007-12-20T21:04:20Z")

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[QUOTE=VCO3]  
I an deeply offended that you’re insinuating that I’m somehow “violating the letter and spirit of the board” by asking a **legitimate and non-controversial** question in GQ.  
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(bolding mine)

OK, you’re making a pretty strong case for stupid, but I’m still leaning toward trolling, personally.

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/71 "2007-12-20T21:04:54Z")

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**VCO3** has a valid point about the insult used outside of the pit when the thread was closed, and surely no one here is dumb enough to buy the “the question was called stupid, not the poster” line.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/72 "2007-12-20T21:07:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]  
**VCO3** has a valid point about the insult used outside of the pit when the thread was closed, and surely no one here is stupid enough to buy the “the question was called stupid, not the poster” line.  
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Well, almost no one…

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/73 "2007-12-20T21:08:37Z")

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[QUOTE=VCO3]  
I am in **no way** joking about carrying a “hoax bomb” on an airliner. I’m doing the _complete opposite_, and I reject this claim of yours. It’s an outright fabrication, and I **demand** that you rescind your comment.  
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Rescind what comment? It’s a statement of fact. You’re either completely serious about carrying a device that appears to be a hoax bomb onto an airliner, or you’re pulling our leg on a public website about carrying a device that appears to be a hoax bomb onto an airliner. Both are incredibly bad ideas.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/74 "2007-12-20T21:12:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]  
**VCO3** has a valid point about the insult used outside of the pit when the thread was closed, and surely no one here is dumb enough to buy the “the question was called stupid, not the poster” line.  
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Even if it had been a blatant “VCO3 is stupid” when the thread was closed, the moderator was acting as a moderator and isn’t subject to the same rules. Similarly, tackle a man and you might get charged with assault. Tackle a man in the course of your duties as a police officer and you’re just making an arrest.

Had the moderator (I forget which one it was) called him stupid and _not_ closed the thread, I’d take issue with it, since it reflects a moderator acting as a poster, doing something other posters are denied.

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/75 "2007-12-20T21:12:51Z")

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And **VCO3** , I’m one of your fans but even I agree that some of your reposnses here can be seen as going a bit overboard. I actually feared you were going to come back all meek and Frances Farmer like with your tail between your legs, I’m glad to see you didn’t do that at least, but do reel it in a bit.

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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/76 "2007-12-20T21:14:47Z")

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[QUOTE=pravnik]  
Rescind what comment? It’s a statement of fact. You’re either completely serious about carrying a device that appears to be a hoax bomb onto an airliner, or you’re pulling our leg on a public website about carrying a device that appears to be a hoax bomb onto an airliner. Both are incredibly bad ideas.  
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IT IS NOT A FUCKING HOAX BOMB, FUCK YOU FOR SAYING THAT OVER AND OVER AND TRYING TO FRAME IT THAT WAY

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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/77 "2007-12-20T21:16:41Z")

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Fuck this. Fuck this thread, fuck you, etc. I’m not going to sit here while a fucking embarrassment of a moderator leads the “troops” in a repeated bashing of me, calling me stupid, calling me a troll, etc. This is INSANITY. Why is the mod allowed to do this?

Please lock this thread. Throw it away. Fuck it.

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**Author:** ![Slypork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Slypork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slypork)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/78 "2007-12-20T21:19:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]  
**VCO3** has a valid point about the insult used outside of the pit when the thread was closed, and surely no one here is dumb enough to buy the “the question was called stupid, not the poster” line.  
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I do agree that the question was stupid in that most people with a modicum of common sense would know better than to bring circuit boards onto a plane. Even in a pre-9/11 world I wouldn’t have done it.

However, I disagree with a mod saying [stupid question.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9291485&postcount=55) I was told that mods are allowed to post and make comments but must distinguish between when they are acting as mods and when they are acting as a poster. In this case **Czarcasm** should have either created two separate posts, one as a regular poster showing their opinion of the OP and a second one as the mod closing the thread or else put in the standard [mod hat on/mod hat off] notation. I don’t believe that a mod would intentionally lock a thread that they feel is stupid but they commentary was unnecessary.

Having said that, I am going to be traveling to a juggling convention and need to practice on the way. Can I bring my machetes along to practice on the flight?

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/79 "2007-12-20T21:22:49Z")

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[QUOTE=VCO3]  
IT IS NOT A FUCKING HOAX BOMB, FUCK YOU FOR SAYING THAT OVER AND OVER AND TRYING TO FRAME IT THAT WAY  
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He didn’t say it was, he said it could appear to be a hoax bomb. Or it could appear to be a real bomb.

That’s the thing. You know it’s not a bomb. I know it’s not a bomb. We don’t matter. What matters is, The Man ain’t gonna let you assemble something that _appears_ (there’s that word again) to be a bomb to the untrained eye on an airplane.

And I’ll wager that the only reason “Breadboard Electrical Components/Flashy Lights/Buzzers” isn’t on the TSA list of banned objects is because you’re probably the first person who thought it would be a good idea to assemble such on a plane.

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/80 "2007-12-20T21:23:59Z")

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[QUOTE=VCO3]  
IT IS NOT A FUCKING HOAX BOMB, FUCK YOU FOR SAYING THAT OVER AND OVER AND TRYING TO FRAME IT THAT WAY  
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“Is a hoax bomb” and “looks like a hoax bomb” are functionally indistinguishable. You admitted it looks like a hoax bomb in your OP, remember?

> [@VCO3](#):
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> I realize that in a post-9/11 world this is asking for trouble. I can see the headlines now: “Plane Diverted…” “It looked like he was building a bomb”…etc.

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