# Fuck you, Czarcasm, for locking my thread.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 20, 2007, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744 "2007-12-20T19:30:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/81 "2007-12-20T21:26:17Z")

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[QUOTE=VCO3]  
Fuck this. Fuck this thread, fuck you, etc. I’m not going to sit here while a fucking embarrassment of a moderator leads the “troops” in a repeated bashing of me, calling me stupid, calling me a troll, etc. This is INSANITY. Why is the mod allowed to do this?  
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Hey, I haven’t called you any names or anything. In exchange, could you lemme know what airline is getting your business? I have a coupla trips coming up, and I’d like to avoid controversy if possible.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/82 "2007-12-20T21:29:01Z")

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Y’all don’t remember what Manhattan used to say in GD, do y’all? Now that was some fine insulting.

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**Author:** ![Aangelica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Aangelica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aangelica)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/83 "2007-12-20T21:29:36Z")

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/raises her hand

So, my question for today is as follows:

Why is it than when everyone who does _not_ own a pair of Moderator Underoos calls **VCO3** out for asking a patently stupid question, he fails to become indignant and huffy, but when anyone who _does_ own a pair of Moderator Underoos calls him out on the same grounds and, often, using the same words and phrases, he’s “hurt and offended” and uses his hurt and offense to work himself up into a frenzy of conspiracy theories and (looking at the preview) flame-out glory?

There were a dozen different posters in the original thread (and in this one) informing him in no uncertain terms that it was stupid-ass question. This is because it _was_ a stupid-ass question - what’s more, it was a stupid-ass question he admitted in the OP was a stupid-ass question he already knew the answer to.

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/84 "2007-12-20T21:31:34Z")

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[QUOTE=VCO3]  
Blaster Master, you are a junior mod and it’s embarrassing. Please stop biting the asses of the powers that be in hopes that one day you’ll be one of Tubadiva’s chosen children.  
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Sadly, I expected this sort of response. You complain that you’re picked on, and when someone who has no dog in the fight tries to provide, as best as he can, a non-biased perspective, you respond with insults.

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> If the mods locked every OP that was answered, they would lock every thread on that forum. This was elective and malicious and meant to humiliate me.

Simply untrue. You are assigning motivation to the moderators which you have failed to demonstrate as true. From an outside perspective, assuming you are telling the truth about your motivations (that you’re legitimately curious) and the moderators are telling the truth about theirs (that they felt it was a dumb question that was already answered), I don’t see where the complaint is. Threads are routinely closed that have been severely hijacked or devolved.

Unlike real life conversations, threads that meander on and on, and end up miles from the OP are very confusing. The question at hand WAS answered and, if you felt the need to discuss the ethics of airline hobbying, perhaps you would have been wiser to set up another thread. And stick to the topic.

Further, you CLAIM the conversation changed, now maybe I’m missing something, but, I don’t see it. All I see is people in different ways that it’s a dumb idea to bring a breadboard on a plane. You seem to be the only one who thought it was unfair. I don’t think that quite qualifies as a change in conversation.

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> I know human nature, which is why I said “I know this might be asking for trouble since 9/11,” but I wanted some opinions on how people might react. Turns out it’s most likely that some CSI-watching grandma from Omaha is likely to shit her depends when she sees two wires and a blinking light, so the conversation mutated into, “well, that’s not fair, innit?”

Did you really want people’s opinions, or just their reactions? Did you honestly expect anyone would react any different than, at best with a rolling of the eyes, and some likely with offense? Surely you’ve been here long enough to have known when you drafted the OP that making a blanket statement about women would cause some sort of reaction. Did you honestly expect anyone would say “You know, I can’t imagine how anyone would get that confused with something you shouldn’t have on a plane. I wish I’d thought of bringing one, next time I fly, I’ll bring my breadboard along and impress the security staff by making it blink, flash, and beep.”? Since you “know human nature”, then you would have also known exactly how your OP would be perceived and, expecting those sorts of reactions, is tanamount to trolling, if not deliberate trolling in its own right.

So speaking of which, I’m through providing you with mine. May your banning be swift and painless.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/85 "2007-12-20T21:31:55Z")

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> yourself gave me a special warning for not keeping up my end of the conversation in the pit, by posting and not returning to topics.

And yet, you haven’t.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/86 "2007-12-20T21:33:52Z")

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[QUOTE=pravnik]  
“Is a hoax bomb” and “looks like a hoax bomb” are functionally indistinguishable.  
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What if it’s a _hoax_ hoax bomb? Would that make it real?

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/87 "2007-12-20T21:39:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
What if it’s a _hoax_ hoax bomb? Would that make it real?  
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It must be, 'cause that just _blew my mind!!_

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/88 "2007-12-20T21:44:36Z")

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The knitting comment though, I don’t see how anyone could find misogynist- I mean seriously, who here has ever seen a man knitting on an airplane?

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**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/89 "2007-12-20T21:47:55Z")

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If I were trying to set off a bomb on an airplane, I wouldn’t use an electrical detonator. But, I know more about explosives than I know about electronics. In general, most people don’t know a whole lot about either. Just like when giving a speech, you’ve got to tailor your words and actions to your audience. This is not a difficult concept to grasp.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/90 "2007-12-20T21:48:18Z")

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[QUOTE=pravnik]  
It must be, 'cause that just _blew my mind!!_  
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I got a bigger laugh out of this than any of VC’s antics, so I guess it was all worthwhile.

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**Author:** ![Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tastes_of_chocolate/32/3232_2.png) [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tastes_of_Chocolate)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/91 "2007-12-20T21:50:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Aangelica]  
Why is it than when everyone who does _not_ own a pair of Moderator Underoos calls **VCO3** out for asking a patently stupid question, he fails to become indignant and huffy, but when anyone who _does_ own a pair of Moderator Underoos calls him out on the same grounds and, often, using the same words and phrases, he’s “hurt and offended” and uses his hurt and offense to work himself up into a frenzy of conspiracy theories and (looking at the preview) flame-out glory?  
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Death-by-mod, I do believe.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/92 "2007-12-20T21:51:36Z")

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I see a third option in between incredibly stupid and troll. Personally, there are times when I think of a question, I am 99% sure I know the answer, but I post the question anyway in the odd chance that I am mistaken.

While perfectly kosher by Pit standards, I dont like the way I see **VC03** getting bashed around like this. Something doesn’t ring true with me… I cant put my finger on it. Maybe it’s my overdeveloped sense of underdoggery, or maybe it’s because I kinda like the guy, but I think we’ve reached a point where it’s being mean for mean’s sake.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/93 "2007-12-20T21:55:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Autolycus]  
I see a third option in between incredibly stupid and troll. Personally, there are times when I think of a question, I am 99% sure I know the answer, but I post the question anyway in the odd chance that I am mistaken.  
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If that were true, his follow-up posts wouldn’t be so idiotic. Instead of “I was trying to ask an innocent and non-controversial question! I’m hurt and insulted!” we’d see “Geez, I just thought there might be a chance this is possible, you don’t have to jump down my throat.”

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/94 "2007-12-20T21:56:35Z")

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[QUOTE=VCO3]  
Guns are not allowed in the cabin per FAA regulations. Electronics are.  
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Which is why, I assume, they tell you to turn off cell phones and other personal electronics? Unless your amateur hour circuitry has been cleared by the FCC, nobody is going to take the chance that you might power it up and fling the navigational controls into a tizzy. Or, more likely, given the level of competence you display in your posting, that you’d release the magic smoke from one or more components leading to the plane having to land while they sorted out why all the fire alarms were going off.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/95 "2007-12-20T21:57:28Z")

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[QUOTE=VCO3]  
Guns are not allowed in the cabin per FAA regulations. Electronics are.  
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Neither of those statements is true.

My poor friend Donny was stuck in a sport coat in a roasting terminal at O’hare in June because he couldn’t remove it without showing his service piece. He could pull it out in the cabin, it just wouldn’t be a good idea. And he doesn’t need to ask a message board to figure that out. But he’s smart.

Try whipping out a cell phone in the middle of the flight in front of the stewardess and an air marshal. Loudly announce you’re going to make a call. See where that leaves you.

Bring a hunk of electronics with you called a “Taser” to the airport. See how far you get with that.

Continue the flame out.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/96 "2007-12-20T21:58:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Autolycus]  
I see a third option in between incredibly stupid and troll. Personally, there are times when I think of a question, I am 99% sure I know the answer, but I post the question anyway in the odd chance that I am mistaken.  
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Do you take it as a personal attack when the responses confirm that which you 99% suspected?

He says he does. I don’t believe that he _actually_ does, but he does _say_ he does.  
[sub]wouldn’t youse?[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/97 "2007-12-20T21:58:59Z")

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[QUOTE=VCO3]  
Fuck this. Fuck this thread, fuck you, etc. I’m not going to sit here while a fucking embarrassment of a moderator leads the “troops” in a repeated bashing of me, calling me stupid, calling me a troll, etc. This is INSANITY. Why is the mod allowed to do this?  
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1. _You_ started a Pit thread, you fucking retard. Even though you think the Pit is solely some sort of spaz-out rant blog, commenting on other posters’ behavior is also allowed here.
2. I haven’t lead anyone in anything. I posted my opinions on the topic of your OP.
3. Quit being such a fucking baby.

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> Please lock this thread. Throw it away. Fuck it.

No.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/98 "2007-12-20T22:00:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]  
The knitting comment though, I don’t see how anyone could find misogynist- I mean seriously, who here has ever seen a man knitting on an airplane?  
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I saw one knitting at Burger Queen.

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/99 "2007-12-20T22:01:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Autolycus]  
While perfectly kosher by Pit standards, I dont like the way I see **VC03** getting bashed around like this. Something doesn’t ring true with me… I cant put my finger on it. Maybe it’s my overdeveloped sense of underdoggery, or maybe it’s because I kinda like the guy, but I think we’ve reached a point where it’s being mean for mean’s sake.  
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Hey, I merely pointed out that someone who did something similar to what he’s suggesting got arrested, and got called a moron for it. Ball’s in his court on that one.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-czarcasm-for-locking-my-thread/430744/100 "2007-12-20T22:02:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Autolycus]  
I see a third option in between incredibly stupid and troll. Personally, there are times when I think of a question, I am 99% sure I know the answer, but I post the question anyway in the odd chance that I am mistaken.

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Yeah, but your first response to the naysayers would be “OK, I thought so. Thanks.” Not “what the hell is wrong with you for saying I shouldn’t swallow a live weasel? It’s not specifically mentioned in the constitution!” The OP was only part of it. The hysterical follow-up made it pretty clear what’s happening.

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