# Fuck you EA! Thanks for stealing my money and ruining Simcity **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 8, 2013, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-ea-thanks-for-stealing-my-money-and-ruining-simcity/652425 "2013-03-08T20:30:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-ea-thanks-for-stealing-my-money-and-ruining-simcity/652425/121 "2013-03-19T18:14:10Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Just adding a bit of information that destroys the idea that piracy kills games. Diablo 3 is unpirated, someone said. I should have done my own research. I recently stumbled on a bit of information while researching the SimCity debacle. There are D3 server emulators that were out about 3 days after the game was released. You download the program, authenticate with a fake server instead of the real one, play on that server instead of the real one, and you have a game without paying for it. That’s a crack, even if the base software hasn’t been changed. > > Sure, Diablo III was a big, highly anticipated game and was going to do good anyways. But in no way does its monumental success prove that killing piracy improves gaming revenue. If anything, it implies the reverse. You didn’t do much research then. The server emulators allow you to “log in” and load… an empty version of the demo. Everything that makes Diablo, Diablo: the AI, the items, the level layout, it all lives on the server. The server literally tells the game what and where to spawn, when and where to use x ability, and where x creature is moving to next, or who it’s attacking next. Unless some enterprising hacker with AI, path finding, level design and game design chops decides to essentially program Diablo 3, no one is going to get to actually play the game. ---
**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-ea-thanks-for-stealing-my-money-and-ruining-simcity/652425/122 "2013-03-19T18:15:54Z")
Well, guys…gamers share in the blame. Piracy has been so rampant and even arguments on here from posters that it is perfectly fine to pirate because “I won’t buy the game” or whatever excuse is popular has led us in this direction. I have seen PC gaming go constantly downhill over time and be eclipsed by console games and part of this reason is piracy. Well, the grave is dug and we have to lie in or or leave the PC gaming community. The only sparkle I have seen in this downhill slide has been Steam and many games I can get on there. However, from what I have seen people say on here, Steam is THE DEVIL. DRM or the equivalent is here to stay because the alternative are not games without it…but LITTLE/NOTHING from which to choose. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-ea-thanks-for-stealing-my-money-and-ruining-simcity/652425/123 "2013-03-19T18:16:05Z")
I guess I’m going to pick up Dead Space 3. It’s the only game I’m mildly interested in/don’t already own from that list. I scare easy though. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-ea-thanks-for-stealing-my-money-and-ruining-simcity/652425/124 "2013-03-19T19:59:52Z")
> [@Kinthalis](#): > > You didn’t do much research then. The server emulators allow you to “log in” and load… an empty version of the demo. > > Everything that makes Diablo, Diablo: the AI, the items, the level layout, it all lives on the server. > > The server literally tells the game what and where to spawn, when and where to use x ability, and where x creature is moving to next, or who it’s attacking next. Unless some enterprising hacker with AI, path finding, level design and game design chops decides to essentially program Diablo 3, no one is going to get to actually play the game. [BZZZZT](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmce9oIxJag), try again. As the maker of that video posted in a thread on the EA forums, though the city needs to be downloaded from the server initially, it’s just a DRM tool, and offline play is possible (despite the reasons EA gave for needing to make the game server-based). Pirates are going to crack the shit out of this game. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-ea-thanks-for-stealing-my-money-and-ruining-simcity/652425/125 "2013-03-19T20:14:29Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > [BZZZZT](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmce9oIxJag), try again. > > As the maker of that video posted in a thread on the EA forums, though the city needs to be downloaded from the server initially, it’s just a DRM tool, and offline play is possible (despite the reasons EA gave for needing to make the game server-based). Pirates are going to crack the shit out of this game. I’m talking about Diablo 3. I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-ea-thanks-for-stealing-my-money-and-ruining-simcity/652425/126 "2013-03-19T20:24:11Z")
> [@BlinkingDuck](#): > > The only sparkle I have seen in this downhill slide has been Steam and many games I can get on there. However, from what I have seen people say on here, Steam is THE DEVIL. …Have you been reading threads from 2005? Because seriously, I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen anything but praise for Steam. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-ea-thanks-for-stealing-my-money-and-ruining-simcity/652425/127 "2013-03-19T21:07:26Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > …Have you been reading threads from 2005? Because seriously, I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen anything but praise for Steam. PLus, I’m pretty sure PC gaming has never been so large in absolute terms, and has likely been growing relatively over consoles by leaps and bounds. One thing to note about piracy is that a lot of it doesn’t comes from the US or developed, English-speaking countries. So a lot of pirate-critics are aiming at the wrong audience entirely. And even so, there’s actually little evidence that piracy noticably impacts sales or profitability. On the other hand, anti-piracy measures almost certainly _do_ impact both… ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-ea-thanks-for-stealing-my-money-and-ruining-simcity/652425/128 "2013-03-19T21:09:43Z")
> [@Kinthalis](#): > > I’m talking about Diablo 3. > > I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. I jumped the gun. But it’s pretty obvious I’m talking about SimCity. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-ea-thanks-for-stealing-my-money-and-ruining-simcity/652425/129 "2013-03-19T21:32:12Z")
> [@BlinkingDuck](#): > > Well, guys…gamers share in the blame. > > Piracy has been so rampant and even arguments on here from posters that it is perfectly fine to pirate because “I won’t buy the game” or whatever excuse is popular has led us in this direction. Again, though, there’s more to the game’s problems than DRM. Lots and lots of very popular games have you connected to the Internet periodically or frequently. The most lucrative game in the history of the PC is World of Warcraft, which is purely an online game. People don’t complain about Steam one hundredth as much as they’ve complained about this one particular game. the problem is that SimCity 5 is inherently flawed, and one of the biggest flaws is a very, very ill-devised online component. And then the company, inexplicably, lied about it, so now people distrust them. ---
**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-ea-thanks-for-stealing-my-money-and-ruining-simcity/652425/130 "2013-03-19T21:37:14Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > …Have you been reading threads from 2005? Because seriously, I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen anything but praise for Steam. I might be confusing the Dope with bitching from my son and his friends…plus I am getting old and the years blur together. Confusing 2005 with now is only a couple years so I dont think things could have changed that much 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-ea-thanks-for-stealing-my-money-and-ruining-simcity/652425/131 "2013-03-19T21:44:44Z")
Your son and friends don’t know how good we have it with Steam. 😉 No need to keep CDs and activation keys around, no worries about scratching your copy of the game, no hassle if you upgrade to a new computer. Log in, download what you want to install, and play. Lots of sales, lots of old and new games available. And fuck EA for making such a shitty version of it with Origin. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-ea-thanks-for-stealing-my-money-and-ruining-simcity/652425/132 "2013-03-19T21:55:22Z")
I haven’t really followed all the Sim/EA stuff, just this thread, but it sounds like they wanted to make it like Farmville. Because everyone loves Farmville and forcing others to do shit for you so your farm doesn’t die. Fuck that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-ea-thanks-for-stealing-my-money-and-ruining-simcity/652425.md?page=6)