# Fuck you ESPN on the Bartman doc **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 28, 2011, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-espn-on-the-bartman-doc/597837 "2011-09-28T02:31:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-espn-on-the-bartman-doc/597837/61 "2011-09-29T22:54:43Z")
> [@bup](#): > > This is what your English teacher was talking about when she said to avoid redundancy. > > Consider “Later he came to the Cubs.” > > See how that conveys the same information in fewer words? There was a study once showing that the World Series is lost, in a statistically-significant majority of cases, by the team with more former Cubs on the roster. > [@mhendo](#): > > Did he die without me realizing it? “Saved his life” is a more figurative term than that. ☹ \*\*gonzo \*\*obviously meant Bartman’s life has sucked since the catch, and he could have been saved all this shit without it. Oh, great, we’re in the Pit: When did your Asperger’s first get diagnosed? Or hasn’t it yet? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-espn-on-the-bartman-doc/597837/62 "2011-09-29T23:11:38Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Oh, great, we’re in the Pit: When did your Asperger’s first get diagnosed? Or hasn’t it yet? What’s up **Elvis**? Still smarting from being shown up as an irrational liar in the thread about _Moneyball_? Evidence, schmevidence, right? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-espn-on-the-bartman-doc/597837/63 "2011-09-29T23:25:52Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > There was a study once showing that the World Series is lost, in a statistically-significant majority of cases, by the team with more former Cubs on the roster. Yes, the [ex-Cub factor.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex-Cubs_Factor) And it involves teams with three or more former Cubs on the roster being doomed to failure in the World Series. ---
**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-espn-on-the-bartman-doc/597837/64 "2011-09-30T16:06:19Z")
Every time I hear someone refer to them as the “Cubbies” I can’t help but shudder and think “Goddamn a team with a nickname that makes them sound like a daycare classroom kind of deserves to suck.” ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-espn-on-the-bartman-doc/597837/65 "2011-09-30T22:37:02Z")
Yes, the home run was just the trigger. Donnie Moore obviously had psychological problems a lot deeper than baseball. He played a lot of baseball, so it’s not surprising that the trigger was an event related to baseball. But it was incidental. [QUOTE=pulykamell] Yes, the ex-Cub factor. And it involves teams with three or more former Cubs on the roster being doomed to failure in the World Series. . And it involves teams with three or more former Cubs on the roster being doomed to failure in the World Series. [/QUOTE] From the article: > [@](#): > > The Ex-Cub Factor is a seemingly spurious correlation… _Seemingly_ spurious? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-espn-on-the-bartman-doc/597837/66 "2011-09-30T22:41:50Z")
> [@NinjaChick](#): > > Every time I hear someone refer to them as the “Cubbies” I can’t help but shudder and think “Goddamn a team with a nickname that makes them sound like a daycare classroom kind of deserves to suck.” How about the Phillies? ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-espn-on-the-bartman-doc/597837/67 "2011-09-30T22:46:06Z")
> [@spooje](#): > > How about the Phillies? Not the same. It’s not a diminutive. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-espn-on-the-bartman-doc/597837/68 "2011-09-30T22:52:22Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > What’s up **Elvis**? Still smarting from being shown up as an irrational liar in the thread about _Moneyball_? Apparently no, you have not yet been formally diagnosed. Something to consider, though. And you’re boring, too, child. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-espn-on-the-bartman-doc/597837/69 "2011-09-30T22:58:21Z")
Oh, **Elvis** , you’re so cute! At least the Red Sox must have cheered you up this week. 🙂 Have a great offseason. I look forward to many more sparkling and insightful baseball comments from you next year. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-espn-on-the-bartman-doc/597837/70 "2011-09-30T23:06:19Z")
> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#): > > Not the same. It’s not a diminutive. Yea, but fuck 'em anyway, right? 🙂 Go Brewers! Go Rays!! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-espn-on-the-bartman-doc/597837/71 "2011-10-01T00:09:44Z")
That would be “phuck 'em anyway”. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-espn-on-the-bartman-doc/597837/72 "2011-10-01T09:00:26Z")
> [@spooje](#): > > Yea, but fuck 'em anyway, right? > > 🙂 > > Go Brewers! Go Rays!! The only appropriate response is, of course, a hearty phuck you. (If you need me anytime today I’ll be over here twitching, because the game doesn’t start until 11PM in my time zone…) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-espn-on-the-bartman-doc/597837.md?page=3)