# Fuck you if you don't care about Puerto Rico, peckerhead

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**Created:** [September 22, 2017, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-if-you-dont-care-about-puerto-rico-peckerhead/796949 "2017-09-22T06:25:54Z")
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### Author: ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2017, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-if-you-dont-care-about-puerto-rico-peckerhead/796949/1 "2017-09-22T06:25:54Z")

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Overhead some white trash dickhead remark "I dont give a fuck about Puerto Rico. I wish all of them [assuming he means immigrants] were all down there!

Hey Genius, a couple things to think over:

– We INVADED Puerto Rico and took the island from Spain. They didn’t ASK us to be part of the USA— we took Puerto Rico and now this island is our responsibility.

–200,000 Puerto Ricans have served our country since then.

So what I am basically saying you racist dipshit is go fuck yourself, hope 5000 homeless Puerto Ricans are moved into YOUR trailer park, and pray that when a natural disaster hits you people that are different from you wont be as heartless.  
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### Author: ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)
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No doubt the fool doesn’t realize that Puerto Ricans happen to be American citizens.

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### Author: ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2017, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-if-you-dont-care-about-puerto-rico-peckerhead/796949/3 "2017-09-22T11:58:35Z")

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Yeah, all because of the do-nothing Dummocrats who sat with their thumbs up their asses and let Puttarickens swarm across the border with their anchor babies. Thanks, Obama!

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#### Post date: [September 22, 2017, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-if-you-dont-care-about-puerto-rico-peckerhead/796949/4 "2017-09-22T12:42:11Z")

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I suppose this isn’t the right forum, but is there any reason it can’t just be a state? 51 states, nothing wrong with that. They need their infrastructure fixed, let’s just do it right.

any chance of that?

shoot, we all need our infrastructure fixed, we are getting right on that I’m sure.

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### Author: ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2017, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-if-you-dont-care-about-puerto-rico-peckerhead/796949/5 "2017-09-22T12:50:45Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> I suppose this isn’t the right forum, but is there any reason it can’t just be a state?

Yes: money.

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### Author: ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2017, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-if-you-dont-care-about-puerto-rico-peckerhead/796949/6 "2017-09-22T13:48:23Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Yes: money.

And senators. Probably brown ones, too.

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### Author: ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2017, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-if-you-dont-care-about-puerto-rico-peckerhead/796949/7 "2017-09-22T14:09:15Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> I suppose this isn’t the right forum, but is there any reason it can’t just be a state? 51 states, nothing wrong with that. They need their infrastructure fixed, let’s just do it right.
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> any chance of that?
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> shoot, we all need our infrastructure fixed, we are getting right on that I’m sure.

[Not enough Puerto Ricans support it](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statehood_movement_in_Puerto_Rico), and Congress isn’t too crazy about the additional economic burden.

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### Author: ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2017, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-if-you-dont-care-about-puerto-rico-peckerhead/796949/8 "2017-09-22T14:17:16Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> [Not enough Puerto Ricans support it](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statehood_movement_in_Puerto_Rico), and Congress isn’t too crazy about the additional economic burden.

I think that is open for debate.

> [@](#):
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> On November 6, 2012, eligible voters in the U.S. territory of Puerto Rico were presented with two questions:
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> (1) whether they agreed to continue with Puerto Rico’s territorial status and (2) to indicate the political status they preferred from three possibilities: statehood, independence, or a sovereign nation in free association with the United States.[25] A full 970,910 (54.00%) voted “No” on the first question, expressing themselves against maintaining the current political status, and 828,077 (46.00%) voted “Yes”, to maintain the current political status. Of those who answered on the second question 834,191 (61.11%) chose statehood, 454,768 (33.34%) chose free association, and 74,895 (5.55%) chose independence.

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> The fifth referendum was held on June 11, 2017. 97% percent voted for statehood, though there was only 23% voter turnout

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#### Post date: [September 22, 2017, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-if-you-dont-care-about-puerto-rico-peckerhead/796949/9 "2017-09-22T14:26:04Z")

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Puerto Rico is also pretty democratic so the Republicans are not too keen on just giving the Democrats another safe seat.

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### Author: ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-if-you-dont-care-about-puerto-rico-peckerhead/796949/10 "2017-09-22T15:22:22Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Yes: money.

I don’t think it’s this so much. FEMA is there. We will end up paying for the restoration of the island after this, which will take months, or years. We’re already on the hook for money.

> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> Puerto Rico is also pretty democratic so the Republicans are not too keen on just giving the Democrats another safe seat.

I think it’s really this one.

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#### Post date: [September 22, 2017, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-if-you-dont-care-about-puerto-rico-peckerhead/796949/11 "2017-09-22T15:39:37Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> I don’t think it’s this so much. FEMA is there. We will end up paying for the restoration of the island after this, which will take months, or years. We’re already on the hook for money.

I think you have misunderstood my post; let me offer [some clarification](http://prbusinesslink.com/article/taxation.html):

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> The corporate tax rate in Puerto Rico is 39%. That may seem high, but in truth, your corporate income tax can be as low as 4% if you qualify for certain tax incentives. This applies whether you have a corporation in Puerto Rico and the 4% is taxed at the corporate level before dividends are paid, or you have a pass through LLC in which you pay 4% on distributions. Considering your (federal plus state) taxes can amount to about 40% while residing in the US, 4% is pretty spectacular tax savings.

Also, most residents of Puerto Rico are not required to pay US Federal Income Tax.

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Considering that many major corporations in the US also pay little or no US income tax, I’m not sure that excluding PR on that basis is valid. I’d rather close the loopholes (if that can be done).

Adding PR as a state would increase Federal income tax revenue from residents, wouldn’t it?

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### Author: ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-if-you-dont-care-about-puerto-rico-peckerhead/796949/13 "2017-09-22T15:55:50Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Considering that many major corporations in the US also pay little or no US income tax, I’m not sure that excluding PR on that basis is valid. I’d rather close the loopholes (if that can be done).
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> Adding PR as a state would increase Federal income tax revenue from residents, wouldn’t it?

Wow. You are just really not understanding my point.

I’ll try and be clear here: Many people do not want Puerto Rico to become a state because keeping it a Commonwealth allows Puerto Rico to have a different, and very attractive, tax scheme for the purpose of attracting and retaining moneyed interests who do not like paying taxes on their income.

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#### Post date: [September 22, 2017, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-if-you-dont-care-about-puerto-rico-peckerhead/796949/14 "2017-09-22T18:11:22Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> Puerto Rico is also pretty democratic so the Republicans are not too keen on just giving the Democrats another safe seat.

A majority of Puerto Ricans are religious and are [anti-abortion and anit-marriage-equality](http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/03/29/key-findings-about-puerto-rico/). But Republicans probably can’t handle having a bunch of people of color on their side. Or agreeing with their talking points while voting for Democrats anyway 😃

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> I suppose this isn’t the right forum, but is there any reason it can’t just be a state? 51 states, nothing wrong with that.

It would fuck up the flag.

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#### Post date: [September 22, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-if-you-dont-care-about-puerto-rico-peckerhead/796949/16 "2017-09-22T18:21:45Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> It would fuck up the flag.

Right after Blago got the boot, I read somewhere about how much money it’d cost the state to take his name off everything.

I’m kind of curious how much the various updates would cost at the federal level if we added a 51st state–I assume they run deeper than just the flag, but I can’t think of what all they’d be.

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Wow. You are just really not understanding my point.
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> I’ll try and be clear here: Many people do not want Puerto Rico to become a state because keeping it a Commonwealth allows Puerto Rico to have a different, and very attractive, tax scheme for the purpose of attracting and retaining moneyed interests who do not like paying taxes on their income.

You are right. I missed that you were saying that US corporations/moneyed interests were using PR as their shelter, like Ireland, Belgium, etc. Thank you for clarifying.

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> Puerto Rico is also pretty democratic so the Republicans are not too keen on just giving the Democrats another safe seat.

> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> I think it’s really this one.

> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> But Republicans probably can’t handle having a bunch of people of color on their side. Or agreeing with their talking points while voting for Democrats anyway 😃

Y’all do understand that Puerto Rico has been a US Commonwealth since 1898 and Puerto Ricans have been US citizens since that time, right? Unless you are under the impression that Republicans have been in control of the US Presidency and Congress continuously since that time, your reasoning is severely flawed.

The real reason is that, until fairly recently, Puerto Ricans did not want to become a US state. The first vote that favored statehood was in 2012 (when, ironically enough, Obama was President and Dems firmly controlled both houses of Congress) but there were irregularities in the vote (~500,000 blank ballots found). Oddness of one sort or another has plagued each vote since, so no clear consensus has been reached.

That’s it, nothing more.

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> It would fuck up the flag.

Well, we managed to survive the change 37 other times. I am pretty sure we can weather one more.

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> [@Doctor\_Jackson](#):
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> Y’all do understand that Puerto Rico has been a US Commonwealth since 1898 and Puerto Ricans have been US citizens since that time, right? Unless you are under the impression that Republicans have been in control of the US Presidency and Congress continuously since that time, your reasoning is severely flawed.
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> The real reason is that, until fairly recently, Puerto Ricans did not want to become a US state. The first vote that favored statehood was in 2012 (when, ironically enough, Obama was President and Dems firmly controlled both houses of Congress) but there were irregularities in the vote (~500,000 blank ballots found). Oddness of one sort or another has plagued each vote since, so no clear consensus has been reached.
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> That’s it, nothing more.

So if tomorrow a consensus were reached in Puerto Rico to seek to be the 51st state, are you telling me that you think the Republican-controlled Congress would jump to admit them?

I’m not that stupid.

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