# Fuck you, in-laws, and take your religious bullshit with you...... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 5, 2007, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862 "2007-04-05T15:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![GomiBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@GomiBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GomiBoy)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2007, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862/181 "2007-04-08T16:48:22Z")
[QUOTE=Thudlow Boink] **Epimetheus** , weren’t you curious to know how God can use spicy jelly to solve your problems? I know I am. [/QUOTE] Me, too - did I miss how God would use spicy jelly to make everything all better? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2007, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862/182 "2007-04-08T17:53:03Z")
Spicy jelly on cream cheese on a Ritz cracker. Works for me. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2007, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862/183 "2007-04-08T18:00:46Z")
[QUOTE=El Cid Viscoso] And your drawing attention to that post is a boon. Its words are flat fragrant hot like Listerine poured on my soul. [/QUOTE] Not bad— although to be more authentic you should really add some more New Agey stream-of-consciousness glurge and a few confusingly misspelled (or misused) words. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862/184 "2007-04-09T04:47:07Z")
Heh, that’s funny. Or maybe you can all just suck my demoncock. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862/185 "2007-04-09T04:48:26Z")
No thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862/186 "2007-04-09T06:52:46Z")
[QUOTE=devilsknew] Love is compassion is understanding. Need I say more? [/QUOTE] Who the fuck are you to lecture anyone else about such things?! Mind your own affairs, and let others do the same! :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862/187 "2007-04-09T11:37:00Z")
[QUOTE=devilsknew] Heh, that’s funny. Or maybe you can all just suck my demoncock. [/QUOTE] Hey, now that’s some good Karma. When did demon become a pseudonym for shriveled? ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862/188 "2007-04-09T12:43:20Z")
[QUOTE=cosmosdan] Hey, now that’s some good Karma. When did demon become a pseudonym for shriveled? [/QUOTE] dam…of course I meant synonym. Bad karma on me I guess. :o ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862/189 "2007-04-09T14:16:34Z")
[QUOTE=devilsknew] Heh, that’s funny. Or maybe you can all just suck my demoncock. [/QUOTE] “Four out of five devils surveyed would recommend **Trident(R)** demoncock for their patients who suck cock!” ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862/190 "2007-04-11T06:54:14Z")
If You hand me an orange and rell me it’s an apple, is it judgemental to declare an orange your gift? Obviously, we are talking about apples and oranges. Her motivation was to be negative, no doubt. Make all of the excuses for her you want, but the sum of her exposition is that she was angry that they made a donation in her name. This anger was more than fleeting, why it was downright inspirational, and led to the fulfillment of the typical chain of events that are known as hate-- she became angry, and that in turn led to an act of agression in the form of revenge. When set upon the path of revenge you are lost to hate. This is called correct understanding. This is not judgement. It is a comment on the workings of hate and love. I did not judge her, I made a statement of fact without blaming her. The direct object of my discernment was of their collective Kharma and the undeniably simple fact that this charitable action was not in good fath, by her own words.What’s the point of helping others when you do it to hurt another? Again, in my original statement, I made a flat statement about the metaphysics of this situation and warned her that there would be Kharmic repercussions after she had stated her motivations in no uncertain terms. Now, if I told her she was going to go to hell, that would be judgement… and that’s the judgement that you seem to be thinking of , and ironically it is of a Christian flavor. My original statement was a channelling of truth and a straight statement with no imperative and no judgement. It was a comment on the fact of the situation and the actions (Kharma) that she straight up explained as a form of agression and anger, and in a very real sense the root of hateful intention. Whether she believes this or not is irrelevant. Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant. The results are the same- Hate never overcomes hate, it perpetuates a cycle of hate. Love stops the cycle. I have no idea what the implications of her actions are, but they are very likely going to be negative in outcome for her and others.Would you not warn someone of danger on a path, if you had the experience and foreknowledge of danger on that path? Twist my simple words and assert motivations that are nonexistant all you want, it just seems incredibly ridiculous and hateful. ---
**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862/191 "2007-04-11T08:23:21Z")
Pipe down everybody, the demoncock is _trying_ to teach us about the relationship between love and oranges and [really expensive speaker cables](http://www.kharma.com/), or something. At any rate, s/he’s busy channelling truth at us and we should all get out of the way (at least until we see what the other end of the pipe is hooked up to). See, what **Indygrrl** did wrong was to react to what _in situ_ would have been a kind act (charitable donation) because its motive (getting under her skin) was objectionable. This presumes motives to be more important than actions, which is incorrect thinking. In reality, the problem was not _her_ charitable gift, it was the fact that she did it out of anger. The presumption here is that motives are more important than actions, which is correct thinking. The safe thing is to have motivations that are, like our house metaphysician’s, either noble or nonexistent. So if you have something rotten to do to someone, do it because you love them. This is what you call [correct understanding](http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/hypocrisy). ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862/192 "2007-04-11T12:40:26Z")
[QUOTE=devilsknew] If You hand me an orange and rell me it’s an apple, is it judgemental to declare an orange your gift? Obviously, we are talking about apples and oranges. Her motivation was to be negative, no doubt. Make all of the excuses for her you want, but the sum of her exposition is that she was angry that they made a donation in her name. This anger was more than fleeting, why it was downright inspirational, and led to the fulfillment of the typical chain of events that are known as hate-- she became angry, and that in turn led to an act of agression in the form of revenge. When set upon the path of revenge you are lost to hate. This is called correct understanding. This is not judgement. It is a comment on the workings of hate and love. I did not judge her, I made a statement of fact without blaming her. The direct object of my discernment was of their collective Kharma and the undeniably simple fact that this charitable action was not in good fath, by her own words.What’s the point of helping others when you do it to hurt another? Again, in my original statement, I made a flat statement about the metaphysics of this situation and warned her that there would be Kharmic repercussions after she had stated her motivations in no uncertain terms. Now, if I told her she was going to go to hell, that would be judgement… and that’s the judgement that you seem to be thinking of , and ironically it is of a Christian flavor. My original statement was a channelling of truth and a straight statement with no imperative and no judgement. It was a comment on the fact of the situation and the actions (Kharma) that she straight up explained as a form of agression and anger, and in a very real sense the root of hateful intention. Whether she believes this or not is irrelevant. Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant. The results are the same- Hate never overcomes hate, it perpetuates a cycle of hate. Love stops the cycle. I have no idea what the implications of her actions are, but they are very likely going to be negative in outcome for her and others.Would you not warn someone of danger on a path, if you had the experience and foreknowledge of danger on that path? Twist my simple words and assert motivations that are nonexistant all you want, it just seems incredibly ridiculous and hateful. [/QUOTE] I see. When\* you \*read someone words and make declarations about their motives, it’s discernment, channeling of truth, and understanding. When someone does the same to your words it’s twisting and incredibly ridiculous and hateful. Thanks for making that so very clear. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862/193 "2007-04-11T13:51:07Z")
Beautifully done, **King of Soup**! I like what the OP did. Having spent the better part of 20 years with “family” whose values and behaviors I deplore (I wish someone had told 24 year old me that you don’t just marry the man, you marry the family–then again, I might not have listened…), I can only say: kudos for striking back in an effective and witty way. I’m all for treating the elderly with respect, but let’s not confuse that with respecting the elderly. Some elderly are as immature as Beavis, if not Butthead, and as asshole-ish to boot. Just because you’re old doesn’t mean you’re excused from good and right behavior, IMO. You still need to be courteous and tactful and tolerant (barring any disease process that precludes this of course). Sounds to me like this set o’ grandparents are passive/aggressive–as is the whole family, what with the late invite. I could tell you stories about my own inlaws–but that’s another thread… ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862/194 "2007-04-11T14:23:02Z")
[QUOTE=featherlou] People who don’t really want their guest to be able to come? [/QUOTE] Yes. Inviting someone to a family dinner–when you suspect they’ve already made plans–is a good way to ensure your own family dinner will be unsullied by their presence. A bit more tasteful than “forgetting” to invite them. Or asking that their son not bring “her.” ---
**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862/195 "2007-04-11T14:55:23Z")
[QUOTE=devilsknew] … their collective Kharma … there would be Kharmic repercussions … It was a comment on the fact of the situation and the actions (Kharma) that she straight up explained as a form of agression and anger … [/QUOTE] GAH! It’s Karma. **KARMA.** [Kharma](http://www.kharma.com/) is a Dutch company that makes speakers. How can you expect anyone to take you seriously when you don’t even know how to spell the concept you’re trying to explain? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862/196 "2007-04-11T16:24:20Z")
The Devil is in the Details, as Anger is rage is Hate is indigestion. Hate leads to tears. Tears in latex lead to weddings of the shotgun. Foot bone connected to the leg bone, leg bone connected to the knee bone. Dive delving into the mortal dark trench if you wish… I will remain recoil and glowing resplendate the Infinite. SHAZAM! ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862/197 "2007-04-11T16:43:07Z")
[QUOTE=Orual] How can you expect anyone to take you seriously when you don’t even know how to spell the concept you’re trying to explain? [/QUOTE] “Why Tom might even be President some day, If They Don’t Hang Him First …” _The Adventures of Tom Sawyer_, (1938) ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862/198 "2007-04-11T17:13:05Z")
[QUOTE=eleanorigby] I’m all for treating the elderly with respect, but let’s not confuse that with respecting the elderly. Some elderly are as immature as Beavis, if not Butthead, and as asshole-ish to boot. Just because you’re old doesn’t mean you’re excused from good and right behavior, IMO. You still need to be courteous and tactful and tolerant (barring any disease process that precludes this of course). [/QUOTE] Yes, my experience is a young jerk nitwit ends up being an elderly jerk nitwit. This notion of respecting someone just because he has somehow managed not to kill himself in a bizarre death that he’s always shown an aptitude for has always left me scratching my head. This religious bullshit from in-laws bit makes me think of a childhood friend I was just recently in contact with after several decades. Seems he married a devout fundamentalist creationist, although he’s not one himself. Said he knew the wife and her family always looked down on him for not being one. I have to wonder just how would two people end up getting married with such different views, but I don’t want to ask him that. Maybe he really turned into one and is trying to work me for his religious order, dunno. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862/199 "2007-04-11T17:47:43Z")
[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip] The Devil is in the Details, as Anger is rage is Hate is indigestion. Hate leads to tears. Tears in latex lead to weddings of the shotgun. Foot bone connected to the leg bone, leg bone connected to the knee bone. Dive delving into the mortal dark trench if you wish… I will remain recoil and glowing resplendate the Infinite. SHAZAM! [/QUOTE] Gee whiz thats…thats… huh? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862/200 "2007-04-11T23:51:59Z")
I wanna remain recoil and resplendant in the whatever, too! C’n I, please, huh, c’n I? 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-in-laws-and-take-your-religious-bullshit-with-you/398862.md?page=11)