# Fuck you, Joe Manchin! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 25, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201 "2021-10-25T23:03:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201/322 "2022-07-31T17:42:03Z")
Who cares what Manchin says he wants? That’s been shown to have very little to do with what he actually does (which is, occasionally vote for Democratic priorities, and mostly be a pain in the ass). Which is still about a million times better than any other possible Senator we could get from WV. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201/323 "2022-08-01T12:14:18Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > It’s very common for politicians not to answer a specific question asked… Common? I think it’s required. I can’t remember any politician, ever, answering a question they were actually asked. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201/324 "2022-08-05T02:21:07Z")
Sinema’s owners have given her permission to support the bill. > **[Sinema says she will 'move forward' on economic bill, putting Biden's agenda...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/04/politics/chuck-schumer-economic-bill-saturday/index.html)** > > Sen. Kyrsten Sinema on Thursday night offered critical support for President Joe Biden's domestic agenda after party leaders agreed to change new tax proposals at her request, indicating she would "move forward" on Democrats' sweeping economic... ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201/325 "2022-08-05T16:04:36Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Sinema’s owners have given her permission to support the bill. Provided they strip out the carried interest reform. This really proves which side her bread is buttered on. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201/326 "2022-08-05T17:57:04Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Provided they strip out the carried interest reform. Small steps, good vs perfect, etc. There is good stuff in the bill, and the minimum corporate tax is a nice start (although the accountants will find ways around that much easier than taxing carried interest as regular income). ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201/327 "2022-08-05T21:53:22Z")
This wasn’t a complaint about their dropping it, it was a complaint about Sinema. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201/328 "2023-02-27T00:47:23Z")
What a disingenuous putz-face. > **[Joe Manchin Refuses to Answer if He Still Identifies as a Democrat](https://www.thedailybeast.com/joe-manchin-refuses-to-answer-if-he-identifies-as-a-democrat-im-an-american)** > > The West Virginia senator skirted the question during a Fox News interview Sunday, as he ponders a run for reelection in 2024 in an increasingly red state. > [@](#): > > “I identify as an American,” Manchin said when asked repeatedly by host Maria Bartiromo if he still considered himself a Democrat. “I’m an American through and through.” Dems will need as many on board as possible in '24 to keep the senate majority, so hopefully JM can stop being some attention-starved waffler and just continue to slog along with a party that hopes to _not_ have to rely on him as much in '24 for another likely super-slim senate majority. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201/329 "2023-02-27T00:59:46Z")
Eh, what do you expect him to say on Fox News? I don’t care at all what he calls himself. I care how he votes. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201/330 "2023-02-27T01:00:10Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > … Dems will need as many on board as possible in '24 to keep the senate majority, so hopefully JM can stop being some attention-starved waffler and just continue to slog along with a party that hopes to _not_ have to rely on him as much in '24 for another likely super-slim senate majority. I’m willing to grant Manchin a tiny amount of slack due to the fact that large majorities of his voters are right-wing MAGA types. He has to at least attempt to signal to them that he’s no durned lefty-liberal, etc. But he does display a brand of smug self-righteousness during these exercises in branding that is very, very hard to take. 2024 could go well or badly for sane and patriotic Americans; with any luck, there will be enough of us voting to make ol’ Joe irrelevant for once and for all. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201/331 "2023-08-11T00:53:40Z")
> **[Democratic Senator Joe Manchin ‘thinking seriously’ about leaving party](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/10/joe-manchin-west-virginia-senator-leave-democratic-party)** > > The West Virginia member has crossed paths with his party over legislation to combat climate crisis and protect voting rights Shock! ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201/332 "2023-08-11T01:38:40Z")
Yeah, he knows he is probably toast next election if he doesn’t and he’s a careerist. Unlike Sinema (who was toast either way), Manchin might stand an outside chance of survival as an independent. Not a good chance. But any port in a storm when you’re clinging to power, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201/333 "2023-08-11T03:34:49Z")
Alternate headline: “Least popular candidate asks party for campaign money in most roundabout way” ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201/334 "2023-08-11T03:53:36Z")
You are generous about his chances of surviving, even as an independent. He’s toast and he knows it. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201/335 "2023-08-11T04:01:49Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > He’s toast and he knows it Probably and maybe. But, ‘rage, rage against the dying of the light.’ ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201/336 "2023-08-11T08:31:11Z")
Manchin is the best chance we have in his state (unlike Sinema, who could be vastly improved upon). If he needs to go independent to win reelection, then that’s fine with me, as long as he caucuses with the Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201/337 "2023-11-09T19:53:35Z")
Manchin’s out. > **[Joe Manchin won't run for re-election: report](https://www.rawstory.com/manchin-wont-run/)** > > Democratic Senator Joe Manchin announced on Thursday that he won't run for re-election next year.Manchin, who has clashed with President Joe Biden and other Democrats at times, was recently listed number one on a news report outlining Senate seats... ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201/338 "2023-11-09T20:19:10Z")
Huh. I wonder what that leaves him free to do? /s ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201/339 "2024-02-16T18:13:39Z")
Well, it apparently doesn’t leave him free to run for President… > **[Joe Manchin announces he will not run for president](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/joe-manchin-announce-will-not-run-president-rcna139120?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&taid=65cf8b4588998b0001e3910f&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)** > > The centrist West Virginia had been mulling a campaign for the White House that would have shaken up the 2024 campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2024, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201/340 "2024-02-17T22:36:09Z")
I’m glad to hear it. I don’t know that Manchin is all that well-loved among independents, but any votes taken from the Democrat (Biden, I assume) are votes for Putin’s little friend Donald. The low-information voters are more likely to go for Kennedy (‘he’s a Kennedy!’) than for Manchin. Still, good that he won’t be on the ballot. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2024, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-joe-manchin/953201/341 "2024-02-17T23:22:17Z")
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