# Fuck You, Judd Gregg

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 12, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598 "2009-02-12T22:07:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/181 "2009-02-13T18:20:38Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Why didn’t he decline to accept the nomination? If he’s so fucking stupid that he didn’t know the president’s policies, then we’re a lot better off without him.
> 
> Regard what?

That, essentially makes the thread complete.

First, Gregg likely said yes because he saw the flash, the smoke and mirrors and the truly meteoric rise to power of this administration and thought to himself “well, I AM a politician, this IS an historic time, what the hell” Then got to the bottom of what Obama wanted to do, or more likely, Obama laid out some things for Gregg that we haven’t even heard yet, and he had second thoughts. Either way, the breakup is best BEFORE the marriage. Move on.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/182 "2009-02-13T18:20:43Z")

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I [posted this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10823442&postcount=130) in another thread about the census, but it may be relevant here.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/183 "2009-02-13T18:21:12Z")

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Don’t worry about it, **CC**. **Sinaijon** ’s as dense as **Shodan**. Black hole, inside the event horizon dense.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/184 "2009-02-13T18:21:52Z")

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My take on the nick-name hijack:

“Dubya” is to George W. Bush as “Barry” is to Barack Obama.

“Hussein” is to Barack Obama as “Cokehead” is to George W Bush.

I use “Cokehead” as a ferinstance … I don’t think the left ever settled on a nickname for President Bush which intimated that he was a terrorist.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/185 "2009-02-13T19:12:10Z")

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What about Shrub? I always liked Shrub. Sort of in memory of Molly Ivins.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/186 "2009-02-13T19:21:15Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Derision,  
> ElvisL1ves

You and I had our differences over Hillary during the Primary, but I just have to applaud you for this – it totally rocks! 😃

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/187 "2009-02-13T19:23:21Z")

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I sit corrected.

Jr. it is, then.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/188 "2009-02-13T19:37:46Z")

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Why don’t you all just go ahead and call him Zero. You know you want to. You’re already marked as freepers/freeper types. Might as well just have it out in the open.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/189 "2009-02-13T19:39:39Z")

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> [@buttonjockey308](#):
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> That, essentially makes the thread complete.
> 
> First, Gregg likely said yes because he saw the flash, the smoke and mirrors and the truly meteoric rise to power of this administration and thought to himself “well, I AM a politician, this IS an historic time, what the hell” . . .

You guys seem to be forgetting. . .

Gregg sought out this post. HE asked President Obama to consider him for the appointment!

> [@Official White House Statement](#):
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> . . . Senator Gregg reached out to the President and offered his name for Secretary of Commerce. . .
> 
> [http://thepage.time.com/2009/02/12/white-house-slaps-back-at-gregg/](http://thepage.time.com/2009/02/12/white-house-slaps-back-at-gregg/)

Of course _now_ he’s denying it like the weasle-ass piece of shit that he is. But throughout the entire process until he backed out like a coward, he never tried to “correct the record” as it were. _Then_ it was ok that everyone had the impression that he was actually, you know, _interested_ in the job enough to pursue it. But now, not so much. Prick.

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/190 "2009-02-13T19:47:27Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> No, in fact you’re fucking blind.
> 
> Try not to drop subordinate clauses: his family gave it to him **to differentiate him from the other George**. There is a purpose for it, to identify one from the other.

Actually, that’s not true. I can’t find a cite because I read it in Barbara Bush’s memoir, but she said that the family never called him W at all, they called him Junior.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/191 "2009-02-13T20:01:47Z")

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> [@Sarahfeena](#):
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> Actually, that’s not true. I can’t find a cite because I read it in Barbara Bush’s memoir, but she said that the family never called him W at all, they called him Junior.

I acquiesce to your superior knowledge about the former president and his family. You may substitute “his country” for “his family” if you wish. He even appears on Wikipedia’s “W” disambiguation page.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/192 "2009-02-13T20:08:31Z")

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And Jefferson got a blow job.

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/193 "2009-02-13T20:10:07Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> I acquiesce to your superior knowledge about the former president and his family. You may substitute “his country” for “his family” if you wish. He even appears on Wikipedia’s “W” disambiguation page.

Well, if _Wikipedia_ says that’s his nickname, then it must be true! 🙂 Just thought you might want to get your facts straight. I don’t dispute that everyone else uses the W to differentiate himself from his father, for perfectly innocent reasons.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/194 "2009-02-13T20:11:31Z")

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Guess what – everybody’s wrong about the ‘Dubya’ nickname!

His family didn’t give it to him.  
The Democrats didn’t invent it as a pejorative.

**[HE GAVE HIMSELF THE DAMN NICKNAME](http://www.nndb.com/group/750/000091477/)!**

Not to mention the **fact** that W. had a penchant for [_giving_ people nicknames](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_used_by_George_W._Bush). He even called visitors to “Prairie Chapel Ranch”, his exclusive western-themed Presidential vacation retreat in Crawford, Texas, “[Dubya Ranch Hands](http://www.nndb.com/group/944/000093665/).” Nicknames were not insults in his world, let alone that one.

This hijack is fucking retarded. Can we stop it now, please?

Contempt,  
Shayna

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/195 "2009-02-13T20:23:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Shayna]  
Guess what – everybody’s wrong about the ‘Dubya’ nickname!

His family didn’t give it to him.  
The Democrats didn’t invent it as a pejorative.

HE GAVE HIMSELF THE DAMN NICKNAME!  
[/QUOTE]  
Guess that means I wasn’t wrong.

> [@](#):
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> Not to mention the fact that W. had a penchant for giving people nicknames. He even called visitors to “Prairie Chapel Ranch”, his exclusive western-themed Presidential vacation retreat in Crawford, Texas, “Dubya Ranch Hands.” Nicknames were not insults in his world, let alone that one.
> 
> This hijack is fucking retarded. Can we stop it now, please?

It’s no more fucking retarded than the rest of this thread, so what’s the difference?

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**Author:** ![Sinaijon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/196 "2009-02-13T20:32:52Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> This hijack is fucking retarded. Can we stop it now, please?

You should talk. This whole thread is retarded. Are you some sort of intellectual all of a sudden, with a discriminating taste for retardation?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/197 "2009-02-13T20:35:26Z")

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> [@Sinaijon](#):
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> You should talk. This whole thread is retarded. Are you some sort of intellectual all of a sudden, with a discriminating taste for retardation?

Nah, too easy.

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**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/198 "2009-02-13T20:38:08Z")

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> [@Sinaijon](#):
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> You should talk. This whole thread is retarded. Are you some sort of intellectual all of a sudden, with a discriminating taste for retardation?

'Cause if you’re looking for some primo retardation, \*\*Sinaijon \*\*can hook you up. But just keep that on the DL, yo?

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**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/199 "2009-02-13T20:39:50Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Nah, too easy.

If you don’t, I will and you’re probably waaay better at it than I am. Please, I beg you, don’t hold back, my friend.

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**Author:** ![Sinaijon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/200 "2009-02-13T20:52:44Z")

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> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#):
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> 'Cause if you’re looking for some primo retardation, \*\*Sinaijon \*\*can hook you up. But just keep that on the DL, yo?

Ah, you misunderstood. See, I can definite hook you up with primo retardation. Its just that Shayna et. al aren’t looking for ‘primo’. See, if retardation where wine, Shayna would be sipping Thunderbird.

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